Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Cheezits]

Odyn really said: "The First Ones created the Cosmos but they are too great for mortals to comprehend. So just say the Big Bang happened from Light and Void, and that the Titans shaped and ordered everything else".

I think the book spells out really well that Odyn desperately wanted the Keepers and the Titans to be revered as THE gods, which... didn't really work out on Azeroth. It's a great villain motivation IMO and he's #1 choice for an Order Villain considering the heinous shit he has done over the years

[Ersula]

Odyn really said: "The First Ones created the Cosmos but they are too great for mortals to comprehend. So just say the Big Bang happened from Light and Void, and that the Titans shaped and ordered everything else".

For all we've seen, that did in-fact happened. Odyn just left out all the stuff about some robot-f*$kers being their bosses.

[Nymrohd]

Razsageth hates Titans for enforcing order and wants their followers dead. It's a pretty simple motivation that is explained overtly... however, she's a giant purple derp dragon, so it doesn't come off as cool as Arthas.

Have to say, the design is really derpy.

[Cheezits]

Have to say, the design is really derpy.

That's what happens when you are doomed to be the first boss of the leveling campaign that features much cooler, plot-relevant villains like Galakrond and Nozdormu and Magatha Grimtotem, if that old datamined NPC list was correct

[Khaza-R]

OK so an extra continent, we got more Azeroth! "Risk containment of our other prisoners" suggests that there is a prisoner (old god?) there.
Together with the idea that the Black Empire was not all horror maybe we'll find a place of enlightened chaos-aligned flesh of curse'd titanforged there.

Omph. Straight scrapping the barrel from Diablo lore if they go there. I mean the rebel titan is even called Innaria.

Let me guess, her and this Old God make a race of super beings as their offspring?

[Nymrohd]

That's what happens when you are doomed to be the first boss of the leveling campaign that features much cooler, plot-relevant villains like Galakrond and Nozdormu and Magatha Grimtotem, if that old datamined NPC list was correct

I mean, the actual aesthetics of Raszageth are derpy. The beak like head looks silly and even sillier when she is talking. Actually while I am hoping they will improve that, every time a dragon talks in the cinematics it looks weird.

[Nymrohd]

Omph. Straight scrapping the barrel from Diablo lore if they go there. I mean the rebel titan is even called Innaria.

Let me guess, her and this Old God make a race of super beings as their offspring?

I am assuming she is named Innaria to be Mesopotamian. We got Odyn for Norse, Ra for Egyptian and now Inanna (Sumerian). Waiting for Anu or Enki but they might give us a female leader for once to get their quotas.

[Cheezits]

I doubt he could be the main Order "Villain" as he is simply carrying out the Titans will.

He has huge pride and arrogance, there are several other keepers who have not done as many bad things as he has. You can make order in good and bad ways (see: the fact that several keepers protested against mind control drugs for dragons)

He also, unintentionally, doomed much of Azeroth to the Jailer, the Legion and the Lich Kings. So that check will have to be paid eventually

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I mean, the actual aesthetics of Raszageth are derpy. The beak like head looks silly and even sillier when she is talking. Actually while I am hoping they will improve that, every time a dragon talks in the cinematics it looks weird.

Yeah, my point is that because she is disposable they didn't try with her design. Denathrius had to look cool because, even if he was intended to be thrown away, he is a major lore figure after the reveal of the Nathrezim.

[Soisoisoi]

So, I don't know if this is relevant or accurate, but I just bought Dragonflight, and where it said "Upgrade Available" on the launcher, it now says "New Beta Available".

I already had Beta though. Not sure if they just take the same space on the launcher or not so it just didn't show before, but it kinda makes me think they're giving beta to people who buy it now?

[Raetary]

So, I don't know if this is relevant or accurate, but I just bought Dragonflight, and where it said "Upgrade Available" on the launcher, it now says "New Beta Available".

I already had Beta though. Not sure if they just take the same space on the launcher or not so it just didn't show before, but it kinda makes me think they're giving beta to people who buy it now?

The text is there for anyone that has beta.

I have it, am in the beta, didn't pre-order yet.

[Soisoisoi]

The text is there for anyone that has beta.

I have it, am in the beta, didn't pre-order yet.

Hm, weird. Wasn't there for me before buying it.

[Khaza-R]

I am assuming she is named Innaria to be Mesopotamian. We got Odyn for Norse, Ra for Egyptian and now Inanna (Sumerian). Waiting for Anu or Enki but they might give us a female leader for once to get their quotas.

Perhaps. I hope you're right. Because they've been no stranger to borrowing story elements from their own IPs before. But straight up ripping off names is low brow, even for them.

The only issue I see is that I would assume the new hinted continent would share the name convention as well. Not something based on Avalon.

[Nymrohd]

Perhaps. I hope you're right. Because they've been no stranger to borrowing story elements from their own IPs before. But straight up ripping off names is low brow, even for them.

The only issue I see is that I would assume the new hinted continent would share the name convention as well. Not something based on Avalon.

Hey if we get a Hanging Gardens of Babylon titanforged city, I'll be happy!

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Hey if we get a Hanging Gardens of Babylon titanforged city, I'll be happy!

Pretty sure even Diablo has some biblical elements and ideas so ripping off seems off base.

[Cheezits]

Pretty sure even Diablo has some biblical elements and ideas so ripping off seems off base.

You don't want to know how many things in existence are King Arthur ripoffs.

It seems more like a nod to medieval lore in general. We have medieval cultures in WoW but not really any that have a strong medieval or knightly theme.

[Hyrja]

PTR testing cancelled due to issues.. hope they can sort all the problems/bugs out within the next 10 days.
The clock is ticking.

[Nymrohd]

PTR testing cancelled due to issues.. hope they can sort all the problems/bugs out within the next 10 days.
The clock is ticking.

Yeah reported it and logged. They were trying some effect to limit visibility in the storm but it was very disorienting and gave me some nausea since your screen would go from a completely opaque light blue to normal in the blink of an eye while turning around.

[Dracullus]

PTR testing cancelled due to issues.. hope they can sort all the problems/bugs out within the next 10 days.
The clock is ticking.

It's not coming in 10 days. Event never start day 1 and if they didn't change mind it will start on week 4 and last 12/13 days.

[Kiivar86]

With those lore books, guess we'll be headed to Uldorus before too long.

Also Avaloren is, name-wise, clearly based off Avalon. Makes me wonder.

Omph. Straight scrapping the barrel from Diablo lore if they go there. I mean the rebel titan is even called Innaria.

Let me guess, her and this Old God make a race of super beings as their offspring?

Based on the wording of the report, Innaria isn't a rebel, the rebelling heretics did something to (and presumably killed) Innaria.

That would also be why this Avaloren's thematic naming doesn't gel with Innaria. Innaria wasn't one of the heretics (who, presumably, named Avaloren), they fought them.

Perhaps. I hope you're right. Because they've been no stranger to borrowing story elements from their own IPs before. But straight up ripping off names is low brow, even for them.

It can also be sheer chance they used the name.

Remember, there's two Hakkars.

[Ersula]

It's not coming in 10 days. Event never start day 1 and if they didn't change mind it will start on week 4 and last 12/13 days.

I did do the event & it felt pretty epic: The main problem was the area telemetry randomly loading/unloading. Seems like the new things they did with rendering distance doesn't agree with the old world. They should probably revamp it at some point.