Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Revamp Man]

Oh surprise, Blizzard brings back exp and renown gain to expac start level. I mean, anyone who witnessed a typical expac development knows that Blizzard nerfs needed time effort over time and starts with a way too low rate for any kind of bar filler steps.

Tip: If you really want to play any of the modern expacs, play it in the last month it exists. You will literally breeze through everything.

They cut 69-70 exp by 40% I'm not complaining

The renown change is offset by the increase in rep from certain quests

If you want to put the hate boner away for a couple weeks we have a ptr build coming today and some raid testing for you to complain about it giving people an unfair advantage

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...ew why wtf

The renown change is because early level rewards were meaningless
Think of them like the 3 point talents that gave X% of a stat
Now everything comes faster so instead of it being renown 7 before you get the extra quest line you'll have renown 3 which is 7500 rep

As for leveling experience it's because 68-70 was around 1.4m exp required while 61-68 was about 2m exp

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It could still be a unique drake customization option. You don't strictly need to have the most unique appearances only from the most exclusive sources.

It's a mount
If it was a customization we'd be able to see that
As long as people give feedback we might see changes because we only have 2 dragons with full body transformation out of 4

[Zulggun]

Oh no, I wont be able to get everything in my first week of playing. That's just terrible, Ion Hazzikostas screwed me over again.

[Sondrelk]

Oh no, I wont be able to get everything in my first week of playing. That's just terrible, Ion Hazzikostas screwed me over again.

If only Blizz would go back to the MoP days of grinding dailies for bonus rolls and pre-raid gear. Would really spicen up the two weeks you get to game it before the raid opens.

[Makabreska]

If only Blizz would go back to the MoP days of grinding dailies for bonus rolls and pre-raid gear. Would really spicen up the two weeks you get to game it before the raid opens.

You mean the dailies that everyone complained were too damn many? I REALLY doubt that bringing back this old and tired system in force would spice up anything.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

You mean the dailies that everyone complained were too damn many? I REALLY doubt that bringing back this old and tired system in force would spice up anything.

I mean yeah but the excuse of "I'm forced to do x" is just exhausting, like some people need to learn self control.(Not pointing at you)

[Sondrelk]

You mean the dailies that everyone complained were too damn many? I REALLY doubt that bringing back this old and tired system in force would spice up anything.

I know. But the playerbase seems confident MoP had no flaws and was perfect, so clearly the daily system that literally required you to grind dailies until you unlocked ANOTHER set of dailies could only be a good thing, clearly.

[Nymrohd]

I know. But the playerbase seems confident MoP had no flaws and was perfect, so clearly the daily system that literally required you to grind dailies until you unlocked ANOTHER set of dailies could only be a good thing, clearly.

I mean if it is not tied to power but it's just a world progression system, why not. The more content the better. You have about two years to do it.

[Xilurm]

Idm as long as FOMO isn't a thing. No one likes FOMO.

[Nymrohd]

Idm as long as FOMO isn't a thing. No one likes FOMO.

Sure but reputation factions very rarely are removed (only ones I can remember are the vanilla ones for ZG and Wrathion from MoP).

[Revamp Man]

I know. But the playerbase seems confident MoP had no flaws and was perfect, so clearly the daily system that literally required you to grind dailies until you unlocked ANOTHER set of dailies could only be a good thing, clearly.

Oh the grind was awful but the story unlocks were great

Take MoP but with things like emissaries and m+ and you get a very very good expansion

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I don't think FOMO applies here unless those specific dailies are removed later on/ rewards the dailies offer are removed later. Then I can understand.

[Dracullus]

We still have more than 2 months before S1 start for M+ testing (and I think they could gather more people to test M+ between pre-patch and expac launch than now), but I hope we start pre-patch event soon. I'm starting to think it will be barebones like Shadowlands one sadly.

Relax.. Its reputation. You have alot of time to build it up

He's not sharpest tool in the shed, most people here learned that there is no point arguing with that guy xD.

I know. But the playerbase seems confident MoP had no flaws and was perfect, so clearly the daily system that literally required you to grind dailies until you unlocked ANOTHER set of dailies could only be a good thing, clearly.

They weren't so confident when it was current content.

[Revamp Man]

prepatch build was supposed to hit a couple hours ago but i guess they are a tad behind

[huth]

The most effective way to play

Is meaningless. It's inherently wasting time, and efficiency isn't particularly useful to that.

[huth]

Well, to play from start actually is about wasting time and money. Why would you pay for 16 months if you just need to pay one month at the end and still see everything?

Because you actually can't. Doing the content at the start of the expansion is a qualitatively different experience.

And no, rushing through everything at the end is not how WoW should be at the start. It's a markedly worse experience. Your demands are completely absurd, no matter the size of the studio. Maybe you should stop treating games as a chore to finish as quickly as possible.

[Arkura]

Sooo.. PTR is down? Hopefully a build that resembles a pre patch rdy event

[Marlamin]

Sooo.. PTR is down? Hopefully a build that resembles a pre patch rdy event

They were aiming to have them back up at noon today, either they'll come back in the next few hours or they've had to delay it again.

[doodle90]

Beta wave just went out, I got beta didnt have it an hour ago

[Revamp Man]

Still nothing in terms of pre-patch playable content

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Well, to play from start actually is about wasting time and money. Why would you pay for 16 months if you just need to pay one month at the end and still see everything?

The last month of an expac is how WoW should be at start. And every following month should be like that. Every month should bring content and gameplay updates.

But that is just too much asked from that poor multi billion company that has hundreds of developers and a larger credit list of a new expac than a star wars movie.

Name one mmo that does that

Also if you started shadowlands in the final few months you missed out on a lot
Ignoring the stuff that gets replaced like end of season rewards

You missed
All the dungeons in m+
The maw
Korthia
All of torghast
Vast majority of campaign content
And millions in passive gold generation

That ignores also shards of domination and all of the raids before the fated syste

[Xentronium]

4.13G update on the PTR.