Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Rageonit]

I do not hate him. I just think he is incompetent. He does not know who most of his players are.

He knows very well. I am (amongst others) his player, and you are not. It's as simple as that.
Also, care to explain how is it possible that the majority of his players are casuals, even tho he runs the game since Legion? That has to be the most stubborn group of players in the existence - shat on since 2016, but still paying for the game! If you play a game for 6 years, even though nobody cares about you, maybe you simply deserve what you get?

[Lorgar Aurelian]

Sorry, i meant single target damage. Great on bosses, not that great in AOE situations. But yes, they are also great to solo, as shadow priests are very tanky damage dealers.

Ah well then ya they do seem ranked highly on dps, though I want to say they have been like that since legion with surrender to madness but people did complain about that talent a lot so Mabye if it’s still high up there with a smooth playstyle it would be better.

[Ashana Darkmoon]

The priest class designer found a new job.

This person left over two years ago and has nothing to do with DF lol.

Anyway they just made a lot of changes on beta that crippled the spec which are hopefully temporary.

[Rageonit]

Oh, ok. Nice to meet you. Thats a rare occassion. You know, most of his players leave two months after expac start.

Who cares? I don't care, Ion doesn't care, and Activision Blizzard management doesn't care, since he's still running the game. Happy times.

Well, they simply level up to endgame level and leave then.

So they pay the full price of an AAA game to play for a week? Man, Ion is a genious. Does nothing for the majority of the players that play WoW, and they still buy it! Imagine that, selling all those copies to the hordes of casuals, while showing them a middle finger. And they still throw the monies at him. For six years in a row. Genious. They should give him a raise no doubt.

[Rageonit]

No, he would be a genious if they stayed sub for a year, and not only for two months.

You don't understand. Making them sub for a year requires a lot of work. Work requires resources. Resources generate costs.
Meanwhile, he sells them a full priced AAA game doing nothing for them. Do you understand? NOTHING. They pay him for nothing. That's brilliant.

[Aucald]

This thread isn't about the state of retail WoW, subscription retention, or anything else in that vein - it's for the discussion of the ongoing Alpha/Beta and development of the newest expansion.

[Izkatu]

Anyone know if evoker tier set will be visible in dragonform , i think they said yes but still missing on beta right?

[Avikur]

Anyone know if evoker tier set will be visible in dragonform , i think they said yes but still missing on beta right?

Yeah Evoker armour seems bugged, took mine to the barber shop and half the options were not available to me. It’d be silly if tier sets weren’t visible, it wouldn’t feel special collecting them if they weren’t

[Arafal]

Anyone know if evoker tier set will be visible in dragonform , i think they said yes but still missing on beta right?

It won't, nothing is visible outside of your visage form except for shoulderpads and belt.

[Eldryth]

Anyone know if evoker tier set will be visible in dragonform , i think they said yes but still missing on beta right?

They implied that it would in early interviews but I've never seen any explicit confirmation (I think they said that "they could do more" with sets designed specifically for Evokers when initially revealing that most slots would be hidden for normal gear).

I'm not really optimistic about it coming this late into beta, but hopefully it does.

[Nymrohd]

Anyone know if evoker tier set will be visible in dragonform , i think they said yes but still missing on beta right?

Only shoulder and belt.

[Izkatu]

I hope they fix that. i really want to play a evoker looks cool and tier too , i just want 3d piece of chest and helm will be sick

[Forum Man]

I still don't understand why the transformation wasn't just designed as a CD like meta

[mrhUK]

Does anyone know the location of the beta servers? I want to try connecting to a VPN to lower my ms as I'm from EU, and I'm just wondering which state would be best.

[huth]

I hope they fix that. i really want to play a evoker looks cool and tier too , i just want 3d piece of chest and helm will be sick

There's nothing broken there. It's an intention design choice.

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Does anyone know the location of the beta servers? I want to try connecting to a VPN to lower my ms as I'm from EU, and I'm just wondering which state would be best.

They're in America. A VPN will just make your latency go higher by introducing extra steps since the delay is mostly due to distance.

[Zulggun]

Oh, ok. Nice to meet you. Thats a rare occassion. You know, most of his players leave two months after expac start.





Most of his potential players could be casual gamers, if they actually had endgame gameplay. Currently, Hazzikostas only caters to his alikes in endgame. Which means, there is only endgame progression for premade group players. Rated PVP. M+ and premade group raids. And no, i do not include the welfare epics from world content into gearing progression, as you simply do not need the gear for anything.



Well, they simply level up to endgame level and leave then. Seems many see leveling as gameplay which is worth to buy an expac for. They just quit after they are done after they discovered there is nothing they could play as endgame, which gives an ongoing progression for their habits. Means gameplay outside of premade groups as like guilds. Way too much commitment for a typical casual gamer.

Oh, you are a bellural enjoyer. Fits perfectly.

[Niwes]

I think there are solutions to this, they just require a lot more effort from Blizzard.


First, OpenRaid should have been part of the game UI. PuGing a raid is not in any way elegant and while someone can on the fly spend 30-40 minutes in an activity, many people need to schedule for 3-4 hours. Wasting far more than that to build the raid is horrible. Having a tool to schedule a raid ahead of time to a time that suits you so that when the time comes you can have the group ready within 10-15 minutes would get so many more people involved.

Second, raid design should help make raids easier to experience in smaller and distinct chunks. LFR does this already for the raids; you can pick a specific part with specific bosses, there is usually a capstone in rewards at the end (LFR wing endbosses corresponding to tier bosses). This should be something easier to schedule and communicate for PuG leaders and it seems the reward system in DF is built for that; e.g. less running Castle Nathria, more running Leeching Vaults.

Third and alternatively, design more and smaller raids. Instead of one raid with 10-12 bosses, two raids with 4-6 bosses (and a third with 1-2). Give us similar number of encounters but more environments. Less bosses who are filler in the story. Yes, probably would mean more art reuse but as long as each tier has some new art, the World art already is strong enough to carry themes and raids.

i sign your first statement with my blood, because i agree 100% and this is, were A LOT of the problems lies. Blizz just quickly did some shitty tools, and no concept, and go like „community shall figure it out by their own“. the result is some barebones, halfassed tools without straight concepts. solely there to even make it possible to pug raid. but in reality it’s horrible crap and the pure hell. it’s like someone going like „look, we have this feature/niche too, you can raid and have fun here“ and then go like „here are your barebone tools, have fun with a horrible experience. thx for your sub.“

Blizzard had 17 years to improve the environment, the concept and the tools. and they invested NOTHING. because we idiots pay them, even for cheap shit crap, anyway. and now we have the modern pug raiding experience in game. yes, that feels like … tada … cheap shit crap. maybe we just got what we deserved

[Nymrohd]

I hope they fix that. i really want to play a evoker looks cool and tier too , i just want 3d piece of chest and helm will be sick

Nothing to fix since they were designed to work like that. It does suck but it's not a bug.

[Gigantique]

The mounts are tied to achievements, and copying characters over overwrites them.

You're right but it's copying "account data" that nukes it, not characters. Been copying over characters all over without having my achievs etc overwritten.

Edit:
Yeah I also think it's a huge missed opportunity with the tier set. Only having belt buckle and shoulderpads looks really, REALLY dumb but the set is also "primal" in design and just flat out doesn't work with any of the barber shop armour (I really, really tried). The barber shop armour is refined and "elegant" and clashes colour-wise as well.

[Nymrohd]

You're right but it's copying "account data" that nukes it, not characters. Been copying over characters all over without having my achievs etc overwritten.

Aha so the real reason I got my dragonriding nuked is because I copied over transmogs after grabbing Black Velvet dress in retail to try an Elvira transmog on a throwaway Forsaken Warlock. Fitting.