Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Dracullus]

Don't know where you get your info from, but no. They say it will be up by 3pm....it will be...and if you're not checking usually earlier than they said.

I think in this topic I can rely on my experience, other people play same game xD. I always check it out of curiosity before work on patch day.

Ok they say it will be up by 3pm.. and what about it? It's estimation, in EU rather in case something go really wrong.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Don't enourage the Tinker liker. You don't need to be a devil's advocate all the time.

I'm far more annoyed with rampant use of false dichotomies than with the Tinker Leaker. The latter is tolerable, the former is not.

[THEORACLE64]

Sadly this will make people whine even more.

It honestly can’t get worse, but then if people can’t think for themselves and decide what’s best for themselves then I’d like to hope they’d stop playing.

Cookie cutter builds were really the worst, because you had zero wiggle room to play your class how you wanted if you wanted to raid etc. so I’m honestly glad there’s too many combinations these crappy websites can’t determine what’s “best”.

[Nymrohd]

I'm far more annoyed with rampant use of false dichotomies than with the Tinker Leaker. The latter is tolerable, the former is not.

Or with people who engage him and create 10-20 pages of pedantry while "arguing" everything sentence to sentence.

[Valysar]

A bit of music, maybe Valdrakken music

[Koollan]

We're prolly going to explore the other realms...

If we do, Blizzard better execute it right this time rather than ruining what makes the Light the Light or ruining what makes the Void the Void. Hell, we're probably gearing up to visit the plane of the Arcane with all of the Titan stuff going on in DF, and the cynic in me tells me that it's going to be botched just like the plane of Death was. No leadup, no foreshadowing, no lore justification.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

A bit of music, maybe Valdrakken music

The words "Return to Azeroth" strike strong.

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Or with people who engage him and create 10-20 pages of pedantry while "arguing" everything sentence to sentence.

It is odd how quickly people engage with people they know are irrational and unwilling to debate in good faith. I used to have that problem, but I'd figure most would grow out of it quickly as I did.

[Nymrohd]

th people they know are irrational and unwilling to debate in good faith. I used to have that problem, but I'd figure most would grow out of it quickly as I did.

"Somebody is wrong in the internet!"
Like I get it when someone is spreading misinformation on a social or political issue that you feel the need to at least present the facts. But just because someone has a poorly expressed opinion on a game . . .

[Makabreska]

[huth]

It is odd how quickly people engage with people they know are irrational and unwilling to debate in good faith. I used to have that problem, but I'd figure most would grow out of it quickly as I did.

I think you're a bit more confident in yourself than is warranted there. And while debating them is unlikely to change their mind, it is rarely wise to leave their claims unchallenged.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I think you're a bit more confident in yourself than is warranted there. And while debating them is unlikely to change their mind, it is rarely wise to leave their claims unchallenged.

Of course, I leave no claims that are really dangerous or constitute a material problem unchallenged, thus my pointing out the false dichotomy. Bad opinions on irrelevant crap don't cause problems, faulty logic in any capacity does.

[Sondrelk]

Pretty nice. Though it really does make me crave a proper time travel patch where we get to actually see Galakrond in-game.

[BaumanKing]

Is it really necessary to bring up Knaak's "stories"? His nonsensical "Dawn of the Aspects" should have been retconned a long time ago.

Fantastic art tho.

[Raetary]

Wish it included something we didn't already know.

[Makabreska]

Wish it included something we didn't already know.

Let's not expect groundbreaking stuff from first episode. Also, it was done for a players who don't know all of this as an entry to DF story.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Pretty nice. Though it really does make me crave a proper time travel patch where we get to actually see Galakrond in-game.

It's not unlikely. There's definitely a certain buildup to Galakrond. Not sure if it'll be in the capacity of resurrection or time-travel, but I have a feeling we'll get a look at him. At the very least, there will probably be a sort of "nu-Galakrond" made from some villainous dragon who delves too deep.

[Raetary]

Let's not expect groundbreaking stuff from first episode.

There are only 3.

With that few we absolutely should expect more out of them.

[Sondrelk]

Wish it included something we didn't already know.

I suppose it's more to give context for those who don't really know who Galakrond is and why he is important. Possibly also to ease players back into dragons.

Mostly though i imagine this is to really show off Galakrond and the Aspects given how important that event is to the Morally grey titan keeper subplot, as well as if Galakrond becomes a villain in the expansion.

[Makabreska]

There are only 3.

With that few we absolutely should expect more out of them.

I repeat what I said. It is all mainly made to attract players who don't know the old stories.

[Kiivar86]

Is it really necessary to bring up Knaak's "stories"? His nonsensical "Dawn of the Aspects" should have been retconned a long time ago.

Fantastic art tho.

Isn't Knaak responsible for the dragonflights as we know it, setup wise at least?

Kinda hard to divorce him from all that.