Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nymrohd]

Well at this point them doing it during December and then hightailing it cause Winter holidays doesn't seem like a good idea IMO.

I am not suggesting they do, the holidays do limit a bit how much they can show. I absolutely think waiting for February would be later than I'd hope. They can have it on the PTR by the second week of January.

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Endgame quests: https://twitter.com/portergauge/stat...qlqLAkev27RaSA

I guess it's happening. barf.

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If we don't get work orders this build I give up on the system

The thing is, we CANNOT give up on that system. Work orders are the only reason you can have OP crafted gear available.

[Rageonit]

And then they are scared to clear WoW folders to fix accumulated issues, cuz "oh em gee I would have to set up my precious ElVui again!". So they keep playing with bugs and low fps.

Are you people even serious...? I'm testing the Blizzard UI right now (lacks some things, sadly) , but I've been through BFA/SL with ElvUI and zero issues. I guess my advice would be to... update it sometimes?

[Ashana Darkmoon]

Are you people even serious...? I'm testing the Blizzard UI right now (lacks some things, sadly) , but I've been through BFA/SL with ElvUI and zero issues. I guess my advice would be to... update it sometimes?

Yeah this is a really bizarre take from people lol. Probably one of the most quickly updated mods when something changes.

[Lahis]

I remember that during OV2 reveal Ybarra said they want some kind of roadmap for all games. Something like that for WoW would be huge. And doesn't have to be spoilery, all we need to know is how many patches/season DF will have and how long more or less it will take, so people won't buy cat in the bag.

It is three patches unless they fuck up and have to cut content to get to the next expansion in schedule.

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Can't wait for the second chapter of the Legacies series, it was really nice. Anyone knows when they plan to release it?

These usually come one week apart, so next Monday

[Merryck]

New build!

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Token Exchange in Bank (Valdrakken). I am assuming for bad-luck-protection of vault. Also, PvP honor/conquest vendors in PvP area in Valdrakken.

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Endgame quests: https://twitter.com/portergauge/stat...qlqLAkev27RaSA

Oh boy. The Dreamer.

[Revamp Man]

I am not suggesting they do, the holidays do limit a bit how much they can show. I absolutely think waiting for February would be later than I'd hope. They can have it on the PTR by the second week of January.

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I guess it's happening. barf.

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The thing is, we CANNOT give up on that system. Work orders are the only reason you can have OP crafted gear available.

WE GET THE WORK ORDERS!!!! IM READY BROOOOO
*sees its enabled via hotfix*
Well that's fine maybe I can check the enchanting epics that dropped and give me knowledge
*items still bugged*
That's OK I didn't wanna test out anything tonight anyways

[Nymrohd]

WE GET THE WORK ORDERS!!!! IM READY BROOOOO
*sees its enabled via hotfix*
Well that's fine maybe I can check the enchanting epics that dropped and give me knowledge
*items still bugged*
That's OK I didn't wanna test out anything tonight anyways

Honestly I've been worried about work orders, people laughed at it but I don't think it is that simple and the fact that we are this late and it has not even been tested yet worries me. It was up a couple of times on builds (with no Dev Note to test it) and it was a complete buggy mess. I would not be surprised if we do not have them available at launch.

[Gorsameth]

yeah especially considering the wealth that can be involved with work orders its a system that would need to be very thoroughly tested.
I actually wonder if they have a backup idea they can quickly implement if Work orders are not going to make it.

[Revamp Man]

yeah especially considering the wealth that can be involved with work orders its a system that would need to be very thoroughly tested.
I actually wonder if they have a backup idea they can quickly implement if Work orders are not going to make it.

I have no doubt they will function at launch
It's just annoying that we haven't been able to touch them yet

[Cheezits]

I noticed that they added music to the Forbidden Reach in the strings, is it ingame? I don't think we can test it.

[Marlamin]

I noticed that they added music to the Forbidden Reach in the strings, is it ingame? I don't think we can test it.

Nope, there's more references to music (and like ~50 new MP3 references) but they're not actually in the files yet. Hopefully next build!

[Greyfang]

Hopefully someone here can help me. This is such a dumb question I feel but I haven't gotten straight answers in-game or in reddit.

Say you're doing LFR. You kill last boss and loot pops up to roll need/greed. Can I do my rolls then leave the group? If I won, will the item be mailed? Or do I need to stay until every little slow jimmy decides to roll at the last second and loot is assigned?

Specifically, I feel the somewhat obvious answer should be that you roll and can leave, then the items will be mailed to you. Otherwise you'd constantly miss other LFR queues that pop up when the last boss in the wing is killed. But I just needed some confirmation this is actually the case.

[Sondrelk]

Hopefully someone here can help me. This is such a dumb question I feel but I haven't gotten straight answers in-game or in reddit.

Say you're doing LFR. You kill last boss and loot pops up to roll need/greed. Can I do my rolls then leave the group? If I won, will the item be mailed? Or do I need to stay until every little slow jimmy decides to roll at the last second and loot is assigned?

Specifically, I feel the somewhat obvious answer should be that you roll and can leave, then the items will be mailed to you. Otherwise you'd constantly miss other LFR queues that pop up when the last boss in the wing is killed. But I just needed some confirmation this is actually the case.

I just so happened to have this issue pop up. I left the group because I didnt care either way, and assumed I didnt win the item. Ended up having it mailed to me next time I logged in. (Was the day after to be fair, so who even knows what metric decides the boss loot is forgotten)

Might have been mailed to me earlier and I just didnt notice, the mail icon is tiny afterall, but still.

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yeah especially considering the wealth that can be involved with work orders its a system that would need to be very thoroughly tested.
I actually wonder if they have a backup idea they can quickly implement if Work orders are not going to make it.

I imagine a backup idea could be an NPC vendor that does the Work Orders for you. Or otherwise being able to trade the Soulbound reagents and final item.

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Oh boy. The Dreamer.

Maybe the writers forgot that it has been half a year since we were told Ysera would definitely not return from Ardenweald anytime soon, and not five years or whatever it has been in-game since then.

[Cheezits]

I have a feeling that, unless it was always bait, the Dreamer questline will be changed with Merithra sacrificing herself for Ysera instead.

[Sondrelk]

I have a feeling that, unless it was always bait, the Dreamer questline will be changed with Merithra sacrificing herself for Ysera instead.

Honestly I would find that even worse. Malfurion sacrificing himself at least does slightly benefit the story in removing a major Alliance aligned character who is probably a bit too powerful for the writers to handle.
Sacrificing Merithra just underlines how utterly pointless the entire deal with her needing to become a true leader was.

[Cheezits]

Honestly I would find that even worse. Malfurion sacrificing himself at least does slightly benefit the story in removing a major Alliance aligned character who is probably a bit too powerful for the writers to handle.
Sacrificing Merithra just underlines how utterly pointless the entire deal with her needing to become a true leader was.

It doesn't matter, the Nelf community is just tweaking at this point and any development other than an HD world tree this expansion will set them off.

[Sondrelk]

It doesn't matter, the Nelf community is just tweaking at this point and any development other than an HD world tree this expansion will set them off.

I guess that is what happens when you make them the victims of a storyline one for shock value, that is then almost entirely forgotten and hastily shuffled away once it gets too inconvenient to keep dragging the consequences around.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Honestly I would find that even worse. Malfurion sacrificing himself at least does slightly benefit the story in removing a major Alliance aligned character who is probably a bit too powerful for the writers to handle.
Sacrificing Merithra just underlines how utterly pointless the entire deal with her needing to become a true leader was.

It would be preferable then offing Malfy. It wouldn't be the first time an offspring sacrifice themselves to help out a parent(See Darion Mograine for his Dad and his speech about doing it a thousand times over).

[AOL Instant Messenger]

It doesn't matter, the Nelf community is just tweaking at this point and any development other than an HD world tree this expansion will set them off.

It does reflect something peculiar about the playerbase that being in the spotlight for five years straight and presumably continuing to be in the spotlight for at least two years afterwards is considered a bad thing for them. All of the downright moronic nonsense in Shadowlands is understandable, because it's beyond idiotic that the Night Elves get to be tortured and eventually condemned to oblivion but Sylvie gets away with it because she was sad, but BfA and Legion have been nothing but parades of characterization for and critical events centered around Night Elves. It's even more odd because nobody else in any medium would accuse the developers of having a bias against them personally because their favorite race has to undergo struggle to be in the spotlight—as far as I can tell, Night Elf fans would prefer to see the Night Elves simultaneously be perpetually the center of attention yet do nothing but curbstomp every other race whilst never losing anything substantial. Unfortunately, that would never come to be because it makes for a terribly boring story.

[Cheezits]

It does reflect something peculiar about the playerbase that being in the spotlight for five years straight and presumably continuing to be in the spotlight for at least two years afterwards is considered a bad thing for them. All of the downright moronic nonsense in Shadowlands is understandable, because it's beyond idiotic that the Night Elves get to be tortured and eventually condemned to oblivion but Sylvie gets away with it because she was sad, but BfA and Legion have been nothing but parades of characterization for and critical events centered around Night Elves. It's even more odd because nobody else in any medium would accuse the developers of having a bias against them personally because their favorite race has to undergo struggle to be in the spotlight—as far as I can tell, Night Elf fans would prefer to see the Night Elves simultaneously be perpetually the center of attention yet do nothing but curbstomp every other race whilst never losing anything substantial. Unfortunately, that would never come to be because it makes for a terribly boring story.

People don't care about development if they don't like it. Nelves are going to be spammed forever now that Elune talks but until they get an HD world tree and a hoorah positive campaign it doesn't matter if they get so much focus.

In fact it's probably worse that they get so much focus that their community doesn't like as it means that other races don't get focus. But no old race besides them (and maybe Dwarves this expansion?) is going to get much lore until EK/Kalimdor are tweaked, barring a new continent filled with Worgen or something.