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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    To be fair, it's most likely in the same sense as how Arthas was featured so heavily leading up to Shadowlands—although he was dead, his legacy was extraordinarily recurrent throughout the expansion. The same likely will go for Deathwing.
    Well it would be interesting to see more of Neltharion before his madness. If only to see what kind of a dragon he was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    To be fair, it's most likely in the same sense as how Arthas was featured so heavily leading up to Shadowlands—although he was dead, his legacy was extraordinarily recurrent throughout the expansion. The same likely will go for Deathwing.
    Was he actually featured heavily? I felt it was more the players themselves who kept saying “they have to bring him back they have to, it’s so obvious!”

    A certain non insignificant portion of the community anyway.

    I didn’t feel like much of SL content featured him so heavily.

    Only moments I can think of was the uther ascension cinematic, then a moment about his soul being put into Kingsmourne, and then ofc the cinematic with his soul.

    I can be wrong, I just didn’t feel the vibe that “Arthas is featured heavily in SL”. Neither does my friend who is a huge Arthas fan and one of the ones hoping they’d showcase him/have him play an important part/revive him.

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    How could he even come back? We practically annihilated him.

    I guess time travel what with Murozond and all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    Anyone think its possible we might see the return of an uncorrupted Neltharion?

    He seems heavily depicted in the animated shorts which makes me think he has to be relevant in the expansion one way or another. Addressing his corruption as something pivotal to the Old Gods plans could also bridge into a wider Void plot line in the future. Then of course there's the leader of the Black Dragonflight not really being decided. Maybe they just threw the Wrathion vs Sabellian story as a red herring for daddy to come back.
    We haven't seen anything suggesting he had a back up plan for his death

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum Man View Post
    We haven't seen anything suggesting he had a back up plan for his death
    My thought was timey-wimey stuff. Really it seems the only way that Galakrond could make a return as well.

    I am sure it would all involve something with the catalyst that causes Nozdormu to be Murozond. Just wild speculation on my part but we had 3 BfA animated shorts. Each one teased the progression of the expansion. I just assuming these might be similar.

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    If the dock that used to have the Boralus ship now has the Dragon Isles ship, where does the ship from Boralus take you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Are you just going to repeat this nonsense until you either get it right purely by accident or the game closes down? Randomly guessing whether a world revamp happens next expansion has a better track record than your "team" already.
    Calm down bro, I'm not trying to prove anything, I'm just passionate about it.

    I thought the image at the end was enough to express that these are just my hopes and wishes.

    Since WOD every new expansion is supposed to have a World Revamp, but I know this may never happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    If the dock that used to have the Boralus ship now has the Dragon Isles ship, where does the ship from Boralus take you?
    Apparently both ships come into the same dock on a rotation so you could easily get on and end up going to the wrong zone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    Apparently both ships come into the same dock on a rotation so you could easily get on and end up going to the wrong zone.
    Oh that's so cool actually. I guess the rotation takes time, but people who don't care can go use the portal. I'll gladly wait on the docks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gigantique View Post
    We already did that. If you go to Chromie again as a lvl 80 toon she gives you a quest to go help your past self.

    So your level 74 or whatever toon gets help from your lvl 80 toon.
    Well I must have missed that and it makes me sad. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    But why? Dragon Isles was just an idea really, we had one picture with an octopus thing and I doubt that's even going to be in the game. If you're talking about Azeroth in general they are never going to leave Azeroth completely behind.
    Dragon Isles is a decade old thing, even if it was just mentioned before. I don't know any other places like that except Undermine / Tel'Abim as others have mentioned. They can't make up infinite amounts of archipelagos on Azeroth, it just feels wrong. Dragon Isles are already quite a stretch. How often are we going to, all of a sudden, find and explore mysteriously hidden islands? Happened three times now (Pandaria, Broken Isles, Dragon Isles) - the trope is overused already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cosmicpreds View Post
    Actually...no...

    Undermine, backside of Azeroth (which is but a rumor), Tel'abim, Plunder Isle, MAYBE more of underground Azeroth, lots of mainland Azeroth plotlines, etc...

    That's like 3 potential expansion plots there...
    I give you the underground expansion stuff, but all the other islands are just no going to make it imho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Balance has one new button and that is the mushroom.
    And Stellar Flare which is pretty much baseline and mandatory now for the spec. It's not about new skills, it's about all the interactions and they made it just too complicated for specs like Balance and Shadow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    They both sound like single zone ideas, maybe two each at a stretch.
    Undermine is said to be large, but it's still effectively just the goblin capital, there are limits to how large you can make a wow city before it stretches credibility.
    Tel'abim meanwhile is essentially a joke location, and while i don't see a problem with it being a zone, i think it's an issue to have carry an expansion.

    Really lots of these locations would fit into a south Seas expansion along with other single zone ideas like Plunder isle. However not of these got taken by BfA, and I find it difficult to assume we will have another island based expansion after BfA took most of the good ideas.
    Yep, that's what I mean when I say they are not very likely to come to the game. They would have fit perfectly into BfA yet they choose not to do them, which makes me believe they'll never be a thing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Dragon Isles is a decade old thing, even if it was just mentioned before. I don't know any other places like that except Undermine / Tel'Abim as others have mentioned. They can't make up infinite amounts of archipelagos on Azeroth, it just feels wrong. Dragon Isles are already quite a stretch. How often are we going to, all of a sudden, find and explore mysteriously hidden islands? Happened three times now (Pandaria, Broken Isles, Dragon Isles) - the trope is overused already.
    We didn't really find the Broken Isles, did we? We just didn't have much reason to go there.

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    Pandaria and the Dragon Isles are the only continents that were hidden to us, and Uldum too but that was just a zone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Oh that's so cool actually. I guess the rotation takes time, but people who don't care can go use the portal. I'll gladly wait on the docks.
    Takes just as long as before honestly. When one ship leaves the other one almost immediately shows up.

    It is however quite annoying hat they use the same ship model for both, at least in the case of the Alliance. The names are obviously different, and you see a Dracthyr on the Dragon Isles ship so it's not difficult to tell, but would have preferred two different ships being used, so it's obvious at a glance which ship is currently docked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Yep, that's what I mean when I say they are not very likely to come to the game. They would have fit perfectly into BfA yet they choose not to do them, which makes me believe they'll never be a thing.
    Thing is though that Blizzard devs stated that Undermine survived the cataclysm, and that they want us to go to Undermine at some point in the future.

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    I'm not sure why they used the same dock as the Kultiras one when there are two free spaces right next to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    I'm not sure why they used the same dock as the Kultiras one when there are two free spaces right next to it.
    That is actually a fantastic question...
    I don't think the ships Moores there are even used for any questlines anymore, so it shouldn't be a conflict with any of those.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Odyn as the final boss of SL is silly. Now that they are revisiting the concept that he is a big asshole, a little more publicly than his backstory with Helya, I think its possible that he will be A boss sometime down the road. There isn't an Order/Titan character more suited to be a villain other than the constellars, who are just doing their jobs, and Sargeras who doesn't count.

    The recent lore book doubles down on his arrogance and I kind of think its building up to some kind of reveal that he wants the Titan's glory all for himself.
    We already fought him twice. I'm not sure what a third fight would bring to the table, aside from having to massively villain bat one of the few remaining characters that is neither a paragon of virtue (much as he thinks otherwise I'm sure) nor a mustache twirling baby eater.

    If anything he's kinda like Bwonsamdi; an asshole, but our asshole. Except not as likeable.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jastall View Post
    that is neither a paragon of virtue (much as he thinks otherwise I'm sure) nor a mustache twirling baby eater.
    Honestly, I do get that sentiment. It is true that he is one of the more nuanced villains—as cathartic as it would be to put my whole fist in his skull (or, rather, break my hand on the thick metallic alloy that constitutes his head), he is one of the few villains left who actually has a sensible, simple motive. He wants to preserve the order of the Titans, and in this otherwise-benevolent interest he is willing to do terrible things. It makes him more compelling than the Jailer who is achktually playing 7d chess and is simultaneously secretly a super-nuanced character For Sure Guys and a one-dimensional bastard whose surface interest is effectively "lol make death happen" (which could even make for an interesting Satan allegory if the banality of evil were actually at play here). It's nice to have villains with actual motives again, a la Daelin Proudmoore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    Honestly, I do get that sentiment. It is true that he is one of the more nuanced villains—as cathartic as it would be to put my whole fist in his skull (or, rather, break my hand on the thick metallic alloy that constitutes his head), he is one of the few villains left who actually has a sensible, simple motive. He wants to preserve the order of the Titans, and in this otherwise-benevolent interest he is willing to do terrible things. It makes him more compelling than the Jailer who is achktually playing 7d chess and is simultaneously secretly a super-nuanced character For Sure Guys and a one-dimensional bastard whose surface interest is effectively "lol make death happen" (which could even make for an interesting Satan allegory if the banality of evil were actually at play here). It's nice to have villains with actual motives again, a la Daelin Proudmoore.
    So like, he is 100% confirmed villain now? Those text were very old.
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