Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Ersula]

I mean, c'mon dude. You really think that was Murozond in the video? Using Nozdormu visage?

Wouldn't their visage be the same?

Weren't we supposed to instantly get legacy rules in Legion when pre-patch hits?

We were also supposed to get grey armor transmog. They forgot a lot of things they promised for 10.0

[Sondrelk]

Weren't we supposed to instantly get legacy rules in Legion when pre-patch hits?

Don't we already? We get legacy loot, and do massive amounts of damage.
It's not trivial, but i don't see why it necessarily should be, you need to go to Tomb or Antirust before you get Mythic bosses that you might struggle with if you don't know your class well.

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I don't know. In Legion or BfA, I remember doing easily Hellfire in Mythic. Should be the same now. Even in the first tier. Why do they not activate legacy damage tho ? It changes nothing for them ... Let people farm transmogs peacefully

Legion had the big draw with absolutely massive power gains though, so out DPS got massively inflated going from WoD.
I don't feel a single expansion giving us such massive gains should be taken as the new rule, instead of the exception. Especially given the aforementioned Legion design philosophy of being overpowered.

[Makabreska]

Don't we already? We get legacy loot, and do massive amounts of damage.
It's not trivial, but i don't see why it necessarily should be, you need to go to Tomb or Antirust before you get Mythic bosses that you might struggle with if you don't know your class well.

No, we don't. I took my new priest into Antorus, and he did not do legacy lvl of dmg to trash. That's the thing.

[Valysar]

I just did the Tomb of Sargeras, 400k dps with my evoker

[huth]

No, we don't. I took my new priest into Antorus, and he did not do legacy lvl of dmg to trash. That's the thing.

We did Legacy damage in Antorus in 9.0. It's tied to your level.

[MyWholeLifeIsThunder]

That's just the Nightborne though, and those seemed to be special in that every single one of the NPCs used a non-customizable model, which meant they had to create a new Nightborne player model basically from scratch.

More like reshape the NE player model into the look they had given the non-customizable NPC Nightborne. I think that the disappointment of the Player model looking really different to the NPC model kinda obscured the fact that NB really showcase how an altered model with diff proportions and stances can look so different. I think that if we had got the Player NB model since Legion launch we would all be far more positive about it, instead of focusing on how it failed to capture the NPC look.

I think Vulpera really managed to show how one of the existing rigs can truly be modified to make a new race, so if a new AR was given the same care, I really wouldn't mind.

Still makes me wonder why they didn't give Drachtyr visages unique idle stances so they looked less like a human and belf.

[Revamp Man]

It doesn't matter whether they would have different visages.

Nozdormu is friendly with the Dracthyr at the end of their starting zone, and Emberthal especially as she is the one that went out to spread the knowledge Nozdormu showed her among the other Dracthyr.
He specifically doesn't do evil shit, and they do not distrust him.

Let alone that having Murozond this early makes no sense with how Nozdormu worries about it in the rest of the currently available story.

I never said he actually does that
It was speculation

Also we already have moruzond
It happens
We've had him and nozdormu exist at the same time as one another before so idk why it suddenly had to be one or the other
Hurry somebody tell chromie you can't exists at tge same time as another version of yourself

[Sondrelk]

No, we don't. I took my new priest into Antorus, and he did not do legacy lvl of dmg to trash. That's the thing.

Well in that case i have no explanation other than us playing completely different games.
I ran Tomb om my warrior, did several hundred thousand DPS on burst rather than the usual 20k.

[Valysar]

I'm checking the dressing room for dragonriding drakes and something is weird, we can have white scales and head armor, but IG we can't see those options, that's a bug ?

Like this :
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/dressin...VZg8nv8V1b877G

[Marlamin]

I'm checking the dressing room for dragonriding drakes and something is weird, we can have white scales and head armor, but IG we can't see those options, that's a bug ?

Like this :
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/dressin...VZg8nv8V1b877G

I believe certain options are hidden behind certain requirements, some of which show in the UI (together with the requirement) some of which don't. Alternatively they might also just be unused.

[Lahis]

I hear some jimmies rustling in the distance.

[Nymrohd]

I'm checking the dressing room for dragonriding drakes and something is weird, we can have white scales and head armor, but IG we can't see those options, that's a bug ?

Like this :
https://www.wowhead.com/beta/dressin...VZg8nv8V1b877G

You can see in the UI lists everything that is possible but you need to earn the options first to be able to preview and apply them.

[Fahrad Wagner]

So excited to listen to the new music! Also I'd love if Jinyu/Ankoan became an AR, I really wanted them to back in 8.2

[Nymrohd]

So at the top ilvl tier of DF's first tier of raiding you can do some BfA raid soloing that doesn't take ages. Uldir is doable as far as numbers are concerned on all difficulties. BoD and up on Mythic are probably not something you can pull off without serious planning though. I do think if DF has four tiers that by the end we will be able to do N'zoth runs for mounts. There are some encounters that don't work well solo ofc.

[Sondrelk]

So at the top ilvl tier of DF's first tier of raiding you can do some BfA raid soloing that doesn't take ages. Uldir is doable as far as numbers are concerned on all difficulties. BoD and up on Mythic are probably not something you can pull off without serious planning though. I do think if DF has four tiers that by the end we will be able to do N'zoth runs for mounts. There are some encounters that don't work well solo ofc.

N'zoth might be a bit ambitious even by the end of Dragonflight. We are after all still not really able to effectively outgear Antirust with Season 4 SL gear, and I imagine that Antorus is significantly easier in that regard, barring Eonar.

[Gigantique]

N'zoth might be a bit ambitious even by the end of Dragonflight. We are after all still not really able to effectively outgear Antirust with Season 4 SL gear, and I imagine that Antorus is significantly easier in that regard, barring Eonar.

I definitely solo'd most of Antorus not too long ago, they even nerfed the Eonar encounter making it soloable!

[Lady Atia]

N'zoth might be a bit ambitious even by the end of Dragonflight. We are after all still not really able to effectively outgear Antirust with Season 4 SL gear, and I imagine that Antorus is significantly easier in that regard, barring Eonar.

What is Antirust? I could easily clear any Mythic Antorus bosses besides Eonar solo with ~normal ilvl on any alt during sesaon 4 btw. But yeah, I'm not even sure you can do N'Zoth solo right now because he may just reset if you go down into the vision phase without anyone else staying up?

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I definitely solo'd most of Antorus not too long ago, they even nerfed the Eonar encounter making it soloable!

Solo Eonar is possible if you have the right class, but it sucks. I just did the raid four times on all chars with randoms, got the Eonar loot I need and finished the skip that way haha.

[Nymrohd]

N'zoth might be a bit ambitious even by the end of Dragonflight. We are after all still not really able to effectively outgear Antirust with Season 4 SL gear, and I imagine that Antorus is significantly easier in that regard, barring Eonar.

You are having trouble with Antorus? I am really clearing Mythic with ease. Meanwhile I struggle with Uldir even on normal.

[Lady Atia]

You are having trouble with Antorus? I am really clearing Mythic with ease. Meanwhile I struggle with Uldir even on normal.

To be fair, I always enjoyed clearing old raids with small groups of 3-5 people so it's not really that much of a problem for me if we can't solo that stuff. That said, legacy loot is horrible especially as people still don't realize how it works so they just get 20 people for mount runs or other weird things that are just a waste of time in the end. I really hope they bring back group loot into old raids so you just roll instead of having to annoyingly ask people if they need an item they can't even use lol.

[Sondrelk]

You are having trouble with Antorus? I am really clearing Mythic with ease. Meanwhile I struggle with Uldir even on normal.

Well i did change my character, so i am definitely undergeared and not too good at the new rotation compared to my previous MM hunter.
It's not that i doubt I could do it, but more that it's just on that tipping point of being possible for the average player.