Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Berkilak]

I will admit i could be wrong and it's just personal taste, but i was never all that enthused by the Shadowlands, and constantly found myself wondering what it would have been like to have less out there ideas constantly.

Everything looked fantastic, but it could have appeared in any fantasy game. It was soulless and vapid. Detached from that which first connected us to the setting.

[huth]

I know it"s mutually exclusive. I wasn't clear enough so let me restate my point: either you break things and make it worth it by making a really good UI, or you count on the community to fix your bad UX for free and the least you could do is to actively support them (by, among other things, avoiding breaking things more than necessary).



Yeah, and the result is good. If blizzard decided to stop supporting add-ons but brought wow's default UI to the same quality level as FFXIV I'd be fine with it.

Whatever they're doing currently is half assed: half assed "support" (closer to apathy, really, than "going out of their way") of add-ons, and half assed work on the default UI.

That sounds a lot more like you're either giving FFXIV undue credit or WoW not enough. Is the WoW UI perfect? No, of course not. Is it terrible? Far from it.

Could FFXIV's UI be better if they allowed Addons? Quite likely.

Does allowing and enabling addons like Blizzard does take quite a bit of work? Yes, most certainly. Your "half-assed" support may well have taken more work to implement than FFXIV's "great" UI.

[Makorus]

FFXIV is customizable, but other than that, it is terrible.

It's submenus, hidden within submenus, that all have confusing names, confusing icons and you got so many different things in different tabs when they should logically be under the same menu point.

[Forum Man]

I believed you needed a lvl55 toon to make a dk on classic and get the mount

Was just informed I was wrong and will now be doing that while people freak out over broken prepatch

[Jaggler]

As they already said back in TBC: "Never play on patch day"

[Sondrelk]

I believed you needed a lvl55 toon to make a dk on classic and get the mount

Was just informed I was wrong and will now be doing that while people freak out over broken prepatch

Yup. Create AND complete the intro on a Death Knight created on the WotLK Classic server. Has to be done before Dragonflight launches November 28th.

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As they already said back in TBC: "Never play on patch day"

That hasnt really been true since WoD though. Legion might have been a tad shaky given the sheer volume of players, but BfA and SL didnt have too many issues with loads of players the first day.

[huth]

That hasnt really been true since WoD though. Legion might have been a tad shaky given the sheer volume of players, but BfA and SL didnt have too many issues with loads of players the first day.

There still have been the occassional kinks in the code, though. And given the sheer scope of the talent changes, there's bound to be something that broke.

[Dracullus]

As they already said back in TBC: "Never play on patch day"

Correction: never play on patch day in US. On EU very often patches were playable as early as 6-7 AM, I don't expect it for prepatch but for sure US downtime will be waaaaay longer.

[Sondrelk]

There still have been the occassional kinks in the code, though. And given the sheer scope of the talent changes, there's bound to be something that broke.

Probably. But unlike in WoD or before I don't think the downsides of playing on launch day really outweighs the benefits to really appreciating the new expansion as it comes out.

[Dracullus]

Probably. But unlike in WoD or before I don't think the downsides of playing on launch day really outweighs the benefits to really appreciating the new expansion as it comes out.

You are confusing patch day with launch day. Launches are smooth since Legion, prepatches are always filled with bugs first week.

[ClownPrincess]

Expansion release days are the best because it's the only time the world is really alive with players* and you get some of the best world pvp at these times. It's worth enduring whatever breakage may happen.

* Didn't really apply to BfA or SL though, did those expansions do anything right?

[boyzma]

Correction: never play on patch day in US. On EU very often patches were playable as early as 6-7 AM, I don't expect it for prepatch but for sure US downtime will be waaaaay longer.

Don't know where you get your info from, but no. They say it will be up by 3pm....it will be...and if you're not checking usually earlier than they said.

[Dracullus]

Don't know where you get your info from, but no. They say it will be up by 3pm....it will be...and if you're not checking usually earlier than they said.

I think in this topic I can rely on my experience, other people play same game xD. I always check it out of curiosity before work on patch day.

Ok they say it will be up by 3pm.. and what about it? It's estimation, in EU rather in case something go really wrong.

[Cosmicpreds]

I'll just wait to buy the expac on November 15th or something.

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It's not that I'm not hyped, it's that after SL and BFA, I'm not gonna bother till the actual content comes out.

[Le Conceptuel]

Don't enourage the Tinker liker. You don't need to be a devil's advocate all the time.

I'm far more annoyed with rampant use of false dichotomies than with the Tinker Leaker. The latter is tolerable, the former is not.

[THEORACLE64]

Sadly this will make people whine even more.

It honestly can’t get worse, but then if people can’t think for themselves and decide what’s best for themselves then I’d like to hope they’d stop playing.

Cookie cutter builds were really the worst, because you had zero wiggle room to play your class how you wanted if you wanted to raid etc. so I’m honestly glad there’s too many combinations these crappy websites can’t determine what’s “best”.

[Nymrohd]

I'm far more annoyed with rampant use of false dichotomies than with the Tinker Leaker. The latter is tolerable, the former is not.

Or with people who engage him and create 10-20 pages of pedantry while "arguing" everything sentence to sentence.

[Valysar]

A bit of music, maybe Valdrakken music

[Koollan]

We're prolly going to explore the other realms...

If we do, Blizzard better execute it right this time rather than ruining what makes the Light the Light or ruining what makes the Void the Void. Hell, we're probably gearing up to visit the plane of the Arcane with all of the Titan stuff going on in DF, and the cynic in me tells me that it's going to be botched just like the plane of Death was. No leadup, no foreshadowing, no lore justification.

[Le Conceptuel]

A bit of music, maybe Valdrakken music

The words "Return to Azeroth" strike strong.

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Or with people who engage him and create 10-20 pages of pedantry while "arguing" everything sentence to sentence.

It is odd how quickly people engage with people they know are irrational and unwilling to debate in good faith. I used to have that problem, but I'd figure most would grow out of it quickly as I did.