Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Xilurm]

Alleria is another example too.

Alleria as a character would never become evil willingly. Wouldn't even be misguided. The only way Alleria ever becomes evil is if she loses total control of her mind and the void completely takes over. But in that case it's not Alleria anymore.

Another thing, I doubt Turalyon would become evil even if he loses Alleria. He would be stricken with grief, sure. Seek justice? Most likely. But turn evil? Nope, that's just not who he is.

[Alanar]

Alleria is another example too.

Alleria as a character would never become evil willingly. Wouldn't even be misguided. The only way Alleria ever becomes evil is if she loses total control of her mind and the void completely takes over. But in that case it's not Alleria anymore.

Another thing, I doubt Turalyon would become evil even if he loses Alleria. He would be stricken with grief, sure. Seek justice? Most likely. But turn evil? Nope, that's just not who he is.

idk where she stand. She is bitter about silvermoon.. got kicked out. Idk if she has any grudges left atm. Kinda hard to find a solid awnser as we probably wont find out with the truce now on place. Hence I said its not the time right now. Turning evul would be out of place, cus that would mean she lost control like you said, idk how feastable that is right now.

He doesnt have to be evil.. he could think hes right in hes own way. I dont see anything of that happening right now.

If I have to think of something, I would see it more as some kind of parasite. It would be a slowbuild up and eventually he would be pushed over, but brought back to hes senses. Losing alleria at that moment could be that push over.

[Revamp Man]

I don't think we are going to see evil turalyon any time soon but I do think yrel will be part of him becoming brainwashed

Right now I'm curious about the scarlet crusade and how they've been doing during the 5 years of no anduin. It seems to me at least that they scrapped Bolvar reuniting with his wife and his daughter being revealed to be the menethil heir either because it didn't fit or it was just part of a patch story that got ditched.

If turalyon does go full light slave I imagine his family will be the ones to snap him out of it and in doing so his wife will kill him like she's been shown in her visions.

Can't lie though I'm hyped for more story stuff now that we are done with SL

[Lahis]

I don't think we are going to see evil turalyon any time soon but I do think yrel will be part of him becoming brainwashed

Right now I'm curious about the scarlet crusade and how they've been doing during the 5 years of no anduin. It seems to me at least that they scrapped Bolvar reuniting with his wife and his daughter being revealed to be the menethil heir either because it didn't fit or it was just part of a patch story that got ditched.

If turalyon does go full light slave I imagine his family will be the ones to snap him out of it and in doing so his wife will kill him like she's been shown in her visions.

Can't lie though I'm hyped for more story stuff now that we are done with SL

Azurathel calls him a zealot upon meeting him and adds that one should be wary of zealots.

I will be thoroughly shocked if Turalyon doesn't end up villain in the Light expansion.

[Lady Atia]

It's not about the story. People just see some "new" character that went angry for 5 seconds because Illidan killed what he believed to be the only chance against the Burning Legion they had and suddenly "HES EVIL".

Most people who say that don't even know who he is. Him and Alleria spend a thousand years fighting back the Burning Legion and now they are going to become evil?

But the Legion did nothing wrong? I would rather be some Demonlady with a nice palace on Argus than a brainwashed Light/Order/Life slave. Void or Death would also work out for me, I guess.

[Raetary]

But the Legion did nothing wrong?

"They did nothing wrong, they just slaughtered their way across the universe in an effort to destroy it and tortured or killed or tortured and killed everyone that opposed them!"

[Lady Atia]

"They did nothing wrong, they just slaughtered their way across the universe in an effort to destroy it and tortured or killed or tortured and killed everyone that opposed them!"

Well, atleast they had free will :P

[Raetary]

Well, atleast they had free will :P

"Join us and become avatars of destruction with an incessant need to cause chaos and misery, or die and have your soul be shredded in our soul engines!"

Truly the paragons of freedom.

[Lady Atia]

"Join us and become avatars of destruction with an incessant need to cause chaos and misery, or die and have your soul be shredded in our soul engines!"

Truly the paragons of freedom.

More than light or order followers. Aaaand they have style.

[Auxis]

Did Blizz update the White Lady recently? Ingame at night time right now, and it looks WAY more detailed than what it used to. There are more dark sections rather than it being all white, and I can see the surface details more clearly because of this.

[Raetary]

More than light or order followers. Aaaand they have style.

"more than"

There is no "more than".
All of those factions subdue, manipulate and take away the control of the subjects beneath them.

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Did Blizz update the White Lady recently? Ingame at night time right now, and it looks WAY more detailed than what it used to. There are more dark sections rather than it being all white, and I can see the surface details more clearly because of this.

Yea, they updated the textures of both moons.

[Lahis]

Did Blizz update the White Lady recently? Ingame at night time right now, and it looks WAY more detailed than what it used to. There are more dark sections rather than it being all white, and I can see the surface details more clearly because of this.

World of Warcraft: Moonwalker - expansion confirmed.

[Xilurm]

But the Legion did nothing wrong? I would rather be some Demonlady with a nice palace on Argus than a brainwashed Light/Order/Life slave. Void or Death would also work out for me, I guess.

Not sure if sarcasm tbh.

[Lahis]

Not sure if sarcasm tbh.

Legion and Void are the real heroes of the story who fight against the tyrannical facism of Order and Light.

Just because we have been brainfashed by the fascists it doesn't make us the good guys.

[Xilurm]

Legion and Void are the real heroes of the story who fight against the tyrannical facism of Order and Light.

Just because we have been brainfashed by the fascists it doesn't make us the good guys.

Isn't the void all about mind control?

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Besides Sargeras formed the Legion in direct response to the Void threat.

[Nymrohd]

Uhm its not like its a difficult story... I am sure the people know what they are talking about.

These comments usually come from people who are a fan and dont want him to die. The way the story could go in their eyes doesnt seem farfetched at all.

Its just not yet the time i would say.

Rather the inverse comments come from Horde stans who want him to die for parity. Just cause Blizzard villain batted people on one side, doesn't mean they need to do it for the other side (not to mention Sylvanas was ALWAYS a villain and Garrosh was a villain as early as Wrath prepatch).

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Not sure if sarcasm tbh.

It's not. We are living in a post truth society and we need to vilify anything that would conventionally be holy.

[Super Dickmann]

Turalyon should be begin the extreme jihad to add some meat to the toothless joke of a playable race he leads and to his post-Tides of Darkness wet blanket of a character, but it isn't going to happen.

[Xilurm]

I would join the Titans and their Order 9 times out of 10. At least they don't go around butchering everything in sight. And both them and their creations are shown to show compassion towards the races that escaped their "ordering" and have a free will.

[Nymrohd]

Turalyon should be begin the extreme jihad to add some meat to the toothless joke of a playable race he leads and to his post-Tides of Darkness wet blanket of a character, but it isn't going to happen.

What kind of meat? The rotten kind? Nah thanks. Nothing about Turalyon's behaviour suggests he would act in such a manner.
Now if Yrel showed up with a Naaru led crusade, he would likely align with them (much of the Alliance would). But the moment they did something problematic, he'd turn on them. Calia could be the way the Light approaches the Horde and I cannot see her going full jihad on people either. Heck if any character is likely to go Light crazy on either faction, that's Liadrin.

Which is great. It would provide a hook for the Alliance to interact with the Light faction but keep the focus on the Light, not the Alliance because as we've seen, faction stories don't end well. And if you keep pushing it, it's not for an interesting story, it's just "to get even".

[Super Dickmann]

What kind of meat? The rotten kind? Nah thanks. Nothing about Turalyon's behaviour suggests he would act in such a manner.
Now if Yrel showed up with a Naaru led crusade, he would likely align with them (much of the Alliance would). But the moment they did something problematic, he'd turn on them.

Turalyon's religious revelation at the end of Tides of Darkness after he was weak with the Light throughout the entire book because he couldn't square waging a war of extermination with another people or how anyone could be so cruel was squared by him realizing the orcs weren't part of Azeroth and ergo, they were outside the Light and fine to be destroyed. That is his premier paladin experience, it's also the peak of his character. He waged a total war with devils for thousands of years after this fact in a completely militant society run by the equivalent of an archangel who's views on straying from the path are pretty clear in Xe'ra.

Him and the Lightforged not just being okay with a demon killing their deity and telling them to nut up or his wife running around with a set of bandages powered by cosmic evil or teaming up with the same orcs he turned against in the first place now waging a war on humanity again after peace failed etc. etc. would take considerably fewer mental leaps than the opposite. It's not Turalyon and the Lightforged being zealots (if that's even the right term, since all of their positions, much like Yrel's, follow naturally and are in favor of the groups they represent) that's a leap of logic, it's the series of backsies and compromises that've made them (and the void elves for that matter) the tumorous dead weight that they are.