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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    But the Legion did nothing wrong?
    "They did nothing wrong, they just slaughtered their way across the universe in an effort to destroy it and tortured or killed or tortured and killed everyone that opposed them!"


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    "They did nothing wrong, they just slaughtered their way across the universe in an effort to destroy it and tortured or killed or tortured and killed everyone that opposed them!"
    Well, atleast they had free will :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    Well, atleast they had free will :P
    "Join us and become avatars of destruction with an incessant need to cause chaos and misery, or die and have your soul be shredded in our soul engines!"

    Truly the paragons of freedom.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    "Join us and become avatars of destruction with an incessant need to cause chaos and misery, or die and have your soul be shredded in our soul engines!"

    Truly the paragons of freedom.
    More than light or order followers. Aaaand they have style.

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    Did Blizz update the White Lady recently? Ingame at night time right now, and it looks WAY more detailed than what it used to. There are more dark sections rather than it being all white, and I can see the surface details more clearly because of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    More than light or order followers. Aaaand they have style.
    "more than"

    There is no "more than".
    All of those factions subdue, manipulate and take away the control of the subjects beneath them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auxis View Post
    Did Blizz update the White Lady recently? Ingame at night time right now, and it looks WAY more detailed than what it used to. There are more dark sections rather than it being all white, and I can see the surface details more clearly because of this.
    Yea, they updated the textures of both moons.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Auxis View Post
    Did Blizz update the White Lady recently? Ingame at night time right now, and it looks WAY more detailed than what it used to. There are more dark sections rather than it being all white, and I can see the surface details more clearly because of this.
    World of Warcraft: Moonwalker - expansion confirmed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    But the Legion did nothing wrong? I would rather be some Demonlady with a nice palace on Argus than a brainwashed Light/Order/Life slave. Void or Death would also work out for me, I guess.
    Not sure if sarcasm tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Not sure if sarcasm tbh.
    Legion and Void are the real heroes of the story who fight against the tyrannical facism of Order and Light.

    Just because we have been brainfashed by the fascists it doesn't make us the good guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Legion and Void are the real heroes of the story who fight against the tyrannical facism of Order and Light.

    Just because we have been brainfashed by the fascists it doesn't make us the good guys.
    Isn't the void all about mind control?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    Uhm its not like its a difficult story... I am sure the people know what they are talking about.

    These comments usually come from people who are a fan and dont want him to die. The way the story could go in their eyes doesnt seem farfetched at all.

    Its just not yet the time i would say.
    Rather the inverse comments come from Horde stans who want him to die for parity. Just cause Blizzard villain batted people on one side, doesn't mean they need to do it for the other side (not to mention Sylvanas was ALWAYS a villain and Garrosh was a villain as early as Wrath prepatch).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Not sure if sarcasm tbh.
    It's not. We are living in a post truth society and we need to vilify anything that would conventionally be holy.

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    Turalyon should be begin the extreme jihad to add some meat to the toothless joke of a playable race he leads and to his post-Tides of Darkness wet blanket of a character, but it isn't going to happen.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

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    I would join the Titans and their Order 9 times out of 10. At least they don't go around butchering everything in sight. And both them and their creations are shown to show compassion towards the races that escaped their "ordering" and have a free will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    Turalyon should be begin the extreme jihad to add some meat to the toothless joke of a playable race he leads and to his post-Tides of Darkness wet blanket of a character, but it isn't going to happen.
    What kind of meat? The rotten kind? Nah thanks. Nothing about Turalyon's behaviour suggests he would act in such a manner.
    Now if Yrel showed up with a Naaru led crusade, he would likely align with them (much of the Alliance would). But the moment they did something problematic, he'd turn on them. Calia could be the way the Light approaches the Horde and I cannot see her going full jihad on people either. Heck if any character is likely to go Light crazy on either faction, that's Liadrin.

    Which is great. It would provide a hook for the Alliance to interact with the Light faction but keep the focus on the Light, not the Alliance because as we've seen, faction stories don't end well. And if you keep pushing it, it's not for an interesting story, it's just "to get even".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    What kind of meat? The rotten kind? Nah thanks. Nothing about Turalyon's behaviour suggests he would act in such a manner.
    Now if Yrel showed up with a Naaru led crusade, he would likely align with them (much of the Alliance would). But the moment they did something problematic, he'd turn on them.
    Turalyon's religious revelation at the end of Tides of Darkness after he was weak with the Light throughout the entire book because he couldn't square waging a war of extermination with another people or how anyone could be so cruel was squared by him realizing the orcs weren't part of Azeroth and ergo, they were outside the Light and fine to be destroyed. That is his premier paladin experience, it's also the peak of his character. He waged a total war with devils for thousands of years after this fact in a completely militant society run by the equivalent of an archangel who's views on straying from the path are pretty clear in Xe'ra.

    Him and the Lightforged not just being okay with a demon killing their deity and telling them to nut up or his wife running around with a set of bandages powered by cosmic evil or teaming up with the same orcs he turned against in the first place now waging a war on humanity again after peace failed etc. etc. would take considerably fewer mental leaps than the opposite. It's not Turalyon and the Lightforged being zealots (if that's even the right term, since all of their positions, much like Yrel's, follow naturally and are in favor of the groups they represent) that's a leap of logic, it's the series of backsies and compromises that've made them (and the void elves for that matter) the tumorous dead weight that they are.
    Last edited by Super Dickmann; 2022-11-17 at 11:25 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    World of Warcraft: Moonwalker - expansion confirmed.
    We find Y'shaarj's body in a hole, being watched over by a Constellar who lives in a Titan tower.
    And there is a sparkly golden worgen that just appears.
    Last edited by Auxis; 2022-11-17 at 11:51 AM. Reason: Realized the first part might be spoilery for FFXIV sprouts. Second part makes no sense until later in the expansion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    I would join the Titans and their Order 9 times out of 10. At least they don't go around butchering everything in sight. And both them and their creations are shown to show compassion towards the races that escaped their "ordering" and have a free will.
    People need to remind themselves that all the crap about Order we seem to be getting this expansion are NOT actually about the Titans OR related to orders given by creatures from the Plane of Order. They are largely about Odyn and the Keepers trying to interpret the will of the Titans. Imo they are far more a commentary on organized religion vs God than "Order sucks and wants you all to be mindcontrolled zombies"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Super Dickmann View Post
    extreme jihad.
    You mean a Crusade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jekyll View Post
    You mean a Crusade?
    No , Magnamon's special move.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    No , Magnamon's special move.
    That's the one.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

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