Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Raetary]

https://twitter.com/TerranGregory/st...73788093911040 Terran posted all the hype trains as of late

This is perfection.

[ExiHext]

Next time don't skip cutscenes.

To be fair: the cutscene didn't even play for me. Upon talking to Dadgar wow crashed and when I got back in the quest was done so I didn't even know there was a cutscene. Just played for me when I did it with a second character...which supposedly not everyone does.

[Raetary]

To be fair: the cutscene didn't even play for me. Upon talking to Dadgar wow crashed and when I got back in the quest was done so I didn't even know there was a cutscene. Just played for me when I did it with a second character...which supposedly not everyone does.

This happens a lot on patch releases.

Blizzard should add some indicator that there indeed is a cinematic to watch, so people don't miss it due to bugs.

[huth]

To be fair: the cutscene didn't even play for me. Upon talking to Dadgar wow crashed and when I got back in the quest was done so I didn't even know there was a cutscene. Just played for me when I did it with a second character...which supposedly not everyone does.

Did it really crash or just stall? There was some issue preventing it from playing properly on the first attempt, making the game unresponsive for 30s-1min or so.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Then make one of the other primals super camp while the second is completely mad and talks to themselves.

Frankly, campy and stupid personalities sound far better than the bland non-personality every villain except Denathrius had throughout Shadowlands. Anything that's entertaining is good enough for me.

[Nymrohd]

Frankly, campy and stupid personalities sound far better than the bland non-personality every villain except Denathrius had throughout Shadowlands. Anything that's entertaining is good enough for me.

Denathrius was campy. I was not joking there, those are the kind of options that WORK in a game like WoW. Denathrius and Azshara were camp villains. Make one camp (preferably a female, we do not need more queer coding villains thanks). Then give us a mad one like Cho'gall or maybe Il'gynoth; players love those prophecies. Since they want to expand the female roster, make the camp female one stay alive as a future threat.

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Did it really crash or just stall? There was some issue preventing it from playing properly on the first attempt, making the game unresponsive for 30s-1min or so.

In some cases it did crash for some people. I had a crash on one of the Dracthyr cinematics and some friends had crashes elsewhere.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

Denathrius was campy. I was not joking there, those are the kind of options that WORK in a game like WoW. Denathrius and Azshara were camp villains. Make one camp (preferably a female, we do not need more queer coding villains thanks). Then give us a mad one like Cho'gall or maybe Il'gynoth; players love those prophecies. Since they want to expand the female roster, make the camp female one stay alive as a future threat.

Azshara seems to fulfill that role, albeit not strictly in the way you seem to be envisioning it. Denathrius was certainly an amusing change of pace, too, which I'm sure contributed to his substantial popularity (and helped to make the Dreadlord retcon be somewhat enjoyable relative to the other ridiculous asspulls we were given in Shadowlands). I think it would become more grating than anything to get some kind of excessively campy saturday morning cartoon villain as anything other than a one-off dungeon boss (ex. Drahga and Valiona), but villains with cheesy and enjoyable personalities will substantially increase everybody's enjoyment.

[Revamp Man]

It is nice to have a villain people can get excited over again.

IKR!!!!
idk why but shadowlands just didnt have that for me
i am extremely biased though because during the reveal i was just saying "NO!!! YOU CANT BE SERIOUS!!"

[Nymrohd]

idk why but shadowlands just didnt have that for me

You really don't know why the bald man with the perky nipples was not an exciting villain?

[Skildar]

Very "iconic" moment in the game Dark Souls(One of the two bosses go down in this two boss fight encounter). Basically if one of them goes down, the other one takes the fallen boss's esence and becomes stronger and more difficult to fight.

probably the most well know bosses of dark souls 1, fatty and slim, fatty smashes slim if he dies first and takes his power, slim pays respect to fatty if he dies first and takes his power.

Thanks for the knowledge sharing buddies, you rock

[Nyel]

Iridikron being a galakrond in terms of hunger could be awesome
Eats his sister
Eats old god blood in 10.1 and ends up eating chromatus

I haven't kept up to date with all the Primalist storyline, but instead of bringing back Galakrond or Murozond or Chromatus or whatever, the four Incarnates becoming one entity would be very interesting.

Otherwise maybe Murozond turns back time to revive Galakrond and then he eats the Incarnates... or whatever. Several routes to go, all way more interesting than anything happening during Shadowlands to be honest.

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The Earth Primal Incarnate. He is the only one of the imprisoned Incarnates mentioned by name. Nozdormu mentions how his hunger would be a problem, and Alexstrasza recoils in disgust at the mere mention.

Aren't all 4 (?) known by now? At least the WoW wiki has a list (I checked it yesterday because I didn't know them either).

Fyrakk, "The Blazing" = Fire
Iridikron, "The Stonescaled" = Earth
Raszageth, "The Storm-Eater" = Air
Vyranoth, "The Frozenheart" = Frost

Or did you mean something else?

[Fahrad Wagner]

This is perfection.

Gotta love Terran Gregory

[AOL Instant Messenger]

You really don't know why the bald man with the perky nipples was not an exciting villain?

The perkier the nipples, the more exciting the villain.

[Sondrelk]

I haven't kept up to date with all the Primalist storyline, but instead of bringing back Galakrond or Murozond or Chromatus or whatever, the four Incarnates becoming one entity would be very interesting.

Otherwise maybe Murozond turns back time to revive Galakrond and then he eats the Incarnates... or whatever. Several routes to go, all way more interesting than anything happening during Shadowlands to be honest.

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Aren't all 4 (?) known by now? At least the WoW wiki has a list (I checked it yesterday because I didn't know them either).

Fyrakk, "The Blazing" = Fire
Iridikron, "The Stonescaled" = Earth
Raszageth, "The Storm-Eater" = Air
Vyranoth, "The Frozenheart" = Frost

Or did you mean something else?

Only one mentioned besides Raszageth so far. I would assume the rest are mentioned at some point or another during the levelling process, but only Iridikron was mentioned in the pre-patch questlines and cinematics.

[Zulggun]

I believe the names were datamined, but only one was named ingame so far.

[Cheezits]

I definitely think it's a disservice when the enemy forces are stoic and plain. The Primalists are portrayed super seriously when it would be nice if we got some goofy and exaggerated ones (Kurog is the only one kind of dramatic) but the only antagonist like that so far is the Gnoll Decatriarch. Razsageth has a weird look but that's about it.

BFA was great with the villains in Zuldazar and Kul Tiras, and then Azshara and Nzoth (and their mobs) were fun. But besides Denny, the SL antagonists were supersrs.

[Nymrohd]

I definitely think it's a disservice when the enemy forces are stoic and plain. The Primalists are portrayed super seriously when it would be nice if we got some goofy and exaggerated ones (Kurog is the only one kind of dramatic) but the only antagonist like that so far is the Gnoll Decatriarch. Razsageth has a weird look but that's about it.

BFA was great with the villains in Zuldazar and Kul Tiras, and then Azshara and Nzoth (and their mobs) were fun. But besides Denny, the SL antagonists were supersrs.

Honestly I would have made all the Mawsworn speak with one voice (and have points where they'd actually do that) to create the point that Zovaal pretty much tortured any individuality out of them. But then Zovaal would need to be so much more interesting and present.

I also wish the Eternals were all at each other's throats.

Honestly if SL had lasted as long as it should, I wish the Covenants would only come together on the third raid and we could have had Covenant-based PvP maybe?

[Nyel]

Do we know how much Incarnates compare to Aspects on a power-scale? Are they stronger, as strong or weaker? And if Wrathion gets promoted to Aspect-level, will he get empowered? Because right now he seems kinda weak in comparison.

[Nymrohd]

Do we know how much Incarnates compare to Aspects on a power-scale? Are they stronger, as strong or weaker? And if Wrathion gets promoted to Aspect-level, will he get empowered? Because right now he seems kinda weak in comparison.

The Aspects were at their peak and all Five of them were needed to take four of the Primals (and Neltharion could not solo Raszageth together with some additional dragons). So I'd say they were roughly equal and now the Incarnates are much stronger (seems Raszageth will easily win over Alex?)

[Nyel]

The Aspects were at their peak and all Five of them were needed to take four of the Primals (and Neltharion could not solo Raszageth together with some additional dragons). So I'd say they were roughly equal and now the Incarnates are much stronger (seems Raszageth will easily win over Alex?)

They're stronger because the Aspects were weakened after the Cataclysm or because they got somehow stronger during their incarceration? I'm completely out of date regarding DF lore.