Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nyel]

Maybe someone can give me a quick answer: Can I directly start professions in Dragonflight on my Dracthyr or do I need to do something before to be able to gather herbs / ore on the Dragon Isles? Completely out of the loop with this topic since forever.

[Sondrelk]

Maybe someone can give me a quick answer: Can I directly start professions in Dragonflight on my Dracthyr or do I need to do something before to be able to gather herbs / ore on the Dragon Isles? Completely out of the loop with this topic since forever.

Pretty sure you have never been restricted from actually mining or gathering for years now, only requiring the actual base profession. Might not be fully efficient if there are Dragonflight gathering upgrades, but nothing to make it impossible.

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As much as I dislike Preach, his documentary about his Blizzard visit and the interviews with Ion are so incredibly insightful. Only thing is that you have to turn the chat off.

Preach speaking out against any type of workplace misogyny/discrimination while his chat is spouting discriminatory non-sense is a bit iffy lmao.

His chat pretending that he is being paid off by Blizzard because he is positive about Blizzard is so sad.

Anyone want to make a quick tl;dr: for the important bits? Or is it primarily just a Blizzard workplace documentary?

[Xilurm]

That was a really good documentary.

[Darkarath]

It was an enterteining watch. If you expect something related to future content you will be dissapointed though.

Anyway I expect it to be the first of many videos. I do not think that Preach spent three days there just for this, as much as I enjoyed it, there has to be more.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Evergreen on my mind and hearing Evergreen just being uttered is just magnifique.

Now we just need to see if there's actions.

[Xilurm]

It was an enterteining watch. If you expect something related to future content you will be dissapointed though.

Anyway I expect it to be the first of many videos. I do not think that Preach spent three days there just for this, as much as I enjoyed it, there has to be more.

There's going to be a part 2.

[Nightshade711]

So Dracthyr already have all the animations they need for normal flight, yet Blizz doesn’t just give us this as a mount.

But then again blizzard doesn’t seem to care about Dracthyr/Evoker cosmetic stuff since they haven’t even given them any glyphs.

[Xilurm]

https://youtu.be/cVP6XBsHDv8
So Dracthyr already have all the animations they need for normal flight, yet Blizz doesn’t just give us this as a mount.

But then again blizzard doesn’t seem to care about Dracthyr/Evoker cosmetic stuff since they haven’t even given them any glyphs.

That's because NPC's need to use it.

That's the only reason they have those.

[Nightshade711]

That's because NPC's need to use it.

That's the only reason they have those.

That’s not an NPC using those animations

[Koollan]

That’s not an NPC using those animations

Fair enough, but that is the current purpose of those animations. Maybe that can change in the future but the reason those flying animations exist is for NPCs.

[Xilurm]

That’s not an NPC using those animations

I mean, people can also control the Lich King model. Doesn't mean it was meant to be used by players.

[Makorus]

Even so, it's just the exact same as the soar animation + flapping.

The idle animation is just Hover.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I share your concern; anything I suggest is in normative terms. In pragmatic terms I would want them to keep the story surface level, focus on epic feel good moments, do call backs and let the level and quest design do some world building because that's what I think they are best at and what I think the medium allows (unless you change the nature of the game so the gameplay is just the means to the end of reaching the next cinematic). Anything more complex is just too much for this team.

Perfectly fair. I do actually think that there is some room for good storytelling, though, just not in a concentrated narrative like the one Shadowlands gave us. Having the story sort of happen with our players along for the ride, such as it was in MoP, is my preference.

Democracy and familial oligarchies is not really that distinct when dealing with relatively small populations. You'd have family blocks mostly voting together with respected (and likely older; dragons in fantasy are often gerontocratic) wyrms leading the blocks.
Then there is the issue of small numbers. Of the five flights, the only one that is numerous seems to be the bronze; the black is pretty much limited to Sabellian's salvaged brood, the blues are a few stray dragons, many greens were wiped by the Nightmare and the reds have fought the most. The Bronzes are probably heading for their own extinction event when Murozond happens and a good part of the flight turns infinite with him.

That's perfectly fair. I suppose our difference there comes down mostly to semantics—you have a generally good idea in that connection and I can see why you're going in the direction you are. I would prefer for it to be more a matter of deliberation than public opinion, though, and for all decisions to be made entirely by senior Wyrms or younger Dragons with close relations to major brood leaders who are deceased or incapacitated (i.e. Wrathion) rather than by referendum . I think that's what I'd use to draw the line between the gerontocratic aristocratic oligarchy I had in mind and a Draconic representative democracy—however, you are correct that with a small enough population, there is a pretty thin line between a town hall-style New England democracy and a familial oligarchy.

[Nymrohd]

So Danuser confirmed that Ysera is coming back in return for Malfurion going to Ardenweald but that they can trade back when needed. So Malf is joining Sylvanas in the fridge because when you go with the D&D revolving doors of the afterlife, the only use left for it in the story is to serve as a narrative waiting room for characters you want to temporarily remove from the story. Heck technically Vol'jin is in there as well and no character is dead anymore unless they have been disenchanted.

[BaumanKing]

After two expansions of Malfurion being basically a stay-at-home husband, it's clear that Danuser has no interest in him at all. And I think that's a good thing, because the matriarchal roots of elven society are slowly starting to come back after they were scaled back in Cata.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Night Elves don't need to regress, stop it. I'm still a bit confused at the Malfurion decision but ok.....

[Cheezits]

So Danuser confirmed that Ysera is coming back in return for Malfurion going to Ardenweald but that they can trade back when needed. So Malf is joining Sylvanas in the fridge because when you go with the D&D revolving doors of the afterlife, the only use left for it in the story is to serve as a narrative waiting room for characters you want to temporarily remove from the story. Heck technically Vol'jin is in there as well and no character is dead anymore unless they have been disenchanted.

I forgot that Vol'jin is still in the pod. Considering that he's turning into a Wild God, maybe there's something going to happen between him and Malfurion in the near future? They ARE sending two racial leaders with heavy wild god ties to Ardenweald now.

[Adoxe]

So Dracthyr already have all the animations they need for normal flight, yet Blizz doesn’t just give us this as a mount.

But then again blizzard doesn’t seem to care about Dracthyr/Evoker cosmetic stuff since they haven’t even given them any glyphs.

Demon Hunters have had normal flight animations since Legion too and nothing has been done with it to this day, so don't hold out hope. Blizzard hates fun, it is known.

[Cheezits]

Demon Hunters have had normal flight animations since Legion too and nothing has been done with it to this day, so don't hold out hope. Blizzard hates fun, it is known.

I think it has more to do with the fact that A) Running Wild Flying couldn't even be used at launch DF/would confuse people with Hober, and B) it's also hard to make an argument at the dev office on why they should make a locked 300 speed flying mount for them when they have a 910% at max glyphs.

[loras]

Ye it would suck if they choose to use sabellian for a villain role. He is one of the last named black dragons, hopefully hes character changes during the expansion to be in a supportive role atleast and not push him over the edge. Right now he seems to proud to be in the second place, so hes attitude needs to change.

Honestly i'd side with Sabelian over Wrathion any day (i mean the arrogant dipshit caused two interdimensional invasions!?).
Kinda hope they could either co-opt the position,
thus allaying Wrathion's fears of being corrupted in a way similar to a council being used instead of a warchief for the Horde.

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I wouldn't be a fan of the First Ones being the "real" pantheon of Order simply on account of the fact that such a change would effectively confirm many people's suspicions that the First Ones are just supposed to be a "one-up" on the Titans.

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I did consider that. There seems to be a trend of "two heads are better than one" lately, what with the revocation of the Warchief title in the Horde, so I figure that lends credence to this concept. It feels like they're probably going to do some kind of compromise since those are such a big deal lately, so it's possible. That, or they both decide to give the title to Ebyssian, but that seems highly unlikely given how arrogant both Wrathion and Sabellian are (then again, these writers aren't the sort to keep characters consistent).

Fair point on Ebyssian, i mean technically he has had the longest run goibg on Azeroth.