Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nymrohd]

That is because the covenant armor took the place of the effort that would have gone into tier sets. Which if you call Nathria had no tier sets. You can't compare the two.

It did have 4 high quality sets.
And I remember expansions when we got tier sets AND pvp tier sets with separate appearances . . .

[Revamp Man]

Yeah, too bad set items from DF does not compare either.

Lmao sure buddy

[Makabreska]

Yeah, too bad set items from DF does not compare either.

For me it easily beats SL.

[Sondrelk]

It did have 4 high quality sets.
And I remember expansions when we got tier sets AND pvp tier sets with separate appearances . . .

This was also before sets started having 3D elements. It's easy to forget that MoP was that first expansion to even have intricate belt buckles.

It's a shame that we don't get more variety, but i would think that the overall quality of each set balances that out.

[Nymrohd]

This was also before sets started having 3D elements. It's easy to forget that MoP was that first expansion to even have intricate belt buckles.

It's a shame that we don't get more variety, but i would think that the overall quality of each set balances that out.

And MoP had separate sets for PvP and PvE. AND MoP had the Dungeon Challenge Mode sets on release. Also yes the complexity of armors increases but so should the tools the designers have available to make them. And they have supposedly kept hiring more and more people.

[Makabreska]

And MoP had separate sets for PvP and PvE. AND MoP had the Dungeon Challenge Mode sets on release. Also yes the complexity of armors increases but so should the tools the designers have available to make them. And they have supposedly kept hiring more and more people.

Ummm do you know how armor designing process works? Because we are now entering guesswork territory. Also, to which department hired peeps went, exactly?

[Nymrohd]

Ummm do you know how armor designing process works? Because we are now entering guesswork territory. Also, to which department hired peeps went, exactly?

Do I care? The product had a certain standard and that standard has fallen behind. It is not controversial to point it out. They can do better.

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Lmao sure buddy

Honestly I miss armor sets that were focused on class fantasy like older tier or like Legion. Tier sets were they are trying to marry raid aesthetics with classes result in armor with less clear identity. Just like with Sepulcher tier, I would need to think a bit in order to figure out which armor belongs to which class for Vault.

[Makabreska]

Do I care? The product had a certain standard and that standard has fallen behind. It is not controversial to point it out. They can do better.

I mean, you kinda should care if you throw out arguments you aren't even sure are valid. You are basically saying "do this and that and IDGAF how".

[Baraden]

Isn't it? I thought Dracthyr can use it anywhere they want.

I think fundamentally my point is dracthyr look daft on mounts and really should have a way to never need use them, it's hardly a big deal imo

[Nymrohd]

I think fundamentally my point is dracthyr look daft on mounts and really should have a way to never need use them, it's hardly a big deal imo

They really do look weird on mounts. I think originally they were supposed to switch to visage form.

[Baraden]

They really do look weird on mounts. I think originally they were supposed to switch to visage form.

Which would be my solution if I ever play one

But why play a dragon race if you can't fly around like other dragons? Just feels shortsighted to me

[Makabreska]

They really do look weird on mounts. I think originally they were supposed to switch to visage form.

At least it gives us memes:

[Sondrelk]

They really do look weird on mounts. I think originally they were supposed to switch to visage form.

No, they were always supposed to work similar to Worgen. It was later when they added the ability to change into visage out of combat/soar. To my knowledge, they never stated that you were always supposed to change into visage when on a mount.

[Lahis]

No, they were always supposed to work similar to Worgen. It was later when they added the ability to change into visage out of combat/soar. To my knowledge, they never stated that you were always supposed to change into visage when on a mount.

In first builds they automatically changed into visage when mounting.

Then people moaned about that and they removed it, and thus we now have stupid looking dragons riding ponies.

[Nyel]

They really do look weird on mounts. I think originally they were supposed to switch to visage form.

I wish this would be the default. Dracthyr in dragon form on mounts look incredibly silly and some mounts do not have proper proportions either. It's a mess, especially with their horns / tails and clipping through everything.

[Sondrelk]

In first builds they automatically changed into visage when mounting.

Then people moaned about that and they removed it, and thus we now have stupid looking dragons riding ponies.

Now that you mention it, i do faintly remember something of that extent happening. Though i cannot remember whether this was due to the Dracthyr appearance not being useable for mounts or not, similar to toy appearances usually disappearing when you mount.

But yes, it's just silly all around. Dracthyr should not require help flying.

[huth]

Now that you mention it, i do faintly remember something of that extent happening. Though i cannot remember whether this was due to the Dracthyr appearance not being useable for mounts or not, similar to toy appearances usually disappearing when you mount.

I remember them actually saying so way back, IIRC it was even before beta. So yeah, this one is fully on the players.

[Xilurm]

They really do look weird on mounts. I think originally they were supposed to switch to visage form.

What about that one spell that defaults to visage form right after combat ends? Did they remove that or something?

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But yes, it's just silly all around. Dracthyr should not require help flying.

Did they also remove Soar in the old zones or something? I'm pretty sure that's way better than normal flying due to it's speed anyway.

[Nymrohd]

What about that one spell that defaults to visage form right after combat ends? Did they remove that or something?

I think it's still there

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Did they also remove Soar in the old zones or something? I'm pretty sure that's way better than normal flying due to it's speed anyway.

You cannot really maintain Soar for that long after all the nerfs without the dragonriding talents unless you start from Hyjal or something.

[Sondrelk]

What about that one spell that defaults to visage form right after combat ends? Did they remove that or something?

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Did they also remove Soar in the old zones or something? I'm pretty sure that's way better than normal flying due to it's speed anyway.

Soar still works. They just nerfed the max speed.