1. #70981
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    Let's not forget that he dropped the topic almost immediately afterwards as well and didn't even bring it up again. It was a spur of the moment thing that resulted in no meaningful action. If anything, this suggests the opposite of what people are claiming.
    People think he went more like "nooo you killed my god! my only reason for existing".

    When in truth it was more like "wtf have you done? you destroyed one of our best chances to fight back against the legion."

  2. #70982
    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    I don't know how it's possible for anyone to see the rejection cinematic and come to that conclusion, when it seemed very obvious to me. That cinematic is really where all of the evil Turalyon stuff started in the community.
    Never thought that was super clear here.. , I can understand where it comes from. It wouldnt spark that conversation if it was super clear at the time. I also thought the first time I saw it. It was Turalyon being shown as weak.. blinded by faith and stuff.

    But ye, like I said I liked certain ideas, suggestions. I dont really care to much how he ends up tbh. I dont think he needs to die. He does feel slightly out of place.
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  3. #70983
    Alleria is another example too.

    Alleria as a character would never become evil willingly. Wouldn't even be misguided. The only way Alleria ever becomes evil is if she loses total control of her mind and the void completely takes over. But in that case it's not Alleria anymore.

    Another thing, I doubt Turalyon would become evil even if he loses Alleria. He would be stricken with grief, sure. Seek justice? Most likely. But turn evil? Nope, that's just not who he is.

  4. #70984
    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Alleria is another example too.

    Alleria as a character would never become evil willingly. Wouldn't even be misguided. The only way Alleria ever becomes evil is if she loses total control of her mind and the void completely takes over. But in that case it's not Alleria anymore.

    Another thing, I doubt Turalyon would become evil even if he loses Alleria. He would be stricken with grief, sure. Seek justice? Most likely. But turn evil? Nope, that's just not who he is.
    idk where she stand. She is bitter about silvermoon.. got kicked out. Idk if she has any grudges left atm. Kinda hard to find a solid awnser as we probably wont find out with the truce now on place. Hence I said its not the time right now. Turning evul would be out of place, cus that would mean she lost control like you said, idk how feastable that is right now.

    He doesnt have to be evil.. he could think hes right in hes own way. I dont see anything of that happening right now.

    If I have to think of something, I would see it more as some kind of parasite. It would be a slowbuild up and eventually he would be pushed over, but brought back to hes senses. Losing alleria at that moment could be that push over.
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  5. #70985
    I don't think we are going to see evil turalyon any time soon but I do think yrel will be part of him becoming brainwashed

    Right now I'm curious about the scarlet crusade and how they've been doing during the 5 years of no anduin. It seems to me at least that they scrapped Bolvar reuniting with his wife and his daughter being revealed to be the menethil heir either because it didn't fit or it was just part of a patch story that got ditched.

    If turalyon does go full light slave I imagine his family will be the ones to snap him out of it and in doing so his wife will kill him like she's been shown in her visions.

    Can't lie though I'm hyped for more story stuff now that we are done with SL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Forum Man View Post
    I don't think we are going to see evil turalyon any time soon but I do think yrel will be part of him becoming brainwashed

    Right now I'm curious about the scarlet crusade and how they've been doing during the 5 years of no anduin. It seems to me at least that they scrapped Bolvar reuniting with his wife and his daughter being revealed to be the menethil heir either because it didn't fit or it was just part of a patch story that got ditched.

    If turalyon does go full light slave I imagine his family will be the ones to snap him out of it and in doing so his wife will kill him like she's been shown in her visions.

    Can't lie though I'm hyped for more story stuff now that we are done with SL
    Azurathel calls him a zealot upon meeting him and adds that one should be wary of zealots.

    I will be thoroughly shocked if Turalyon doesn't end up villain in the Light expansion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    It's not about the story. People just see some "new" character that went angry for 5 seconds because Illidan killed what he believed to be the only chance against the Burning Legion they had and suddenly "HES EVIL".

    Most people who say that don't even know who he is. Him and Alleria spend a thousand years fighting back the Burning Legion and now they are going to become evil?
    But the Legion did nothing wrong? I would rather be some Demonlady with a nice palace on Argus than a brainwashed Light/Order/Life slave. Void or Death would also work out for me, I guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    But the Legion did nothing wrong?
    "They did nothing wrong, they just slaughtered their way across the universe in an effort to destroy it and tortured or killed or tortured and killed everyone that opposed them!"



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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    "They did nothing wrong, they just slaughtered their way across the universe in an effort to destroy it and tortured or killed or tortured and killed everyone that opposed them!"
    Well, atleast they had free will :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    Well, atleast they had free will :P
    "Join us and become avatars of destruction with an incessant need to cause chaos and misery, or die and have your soul be shredded in our soul engines!"

    Truly the paragons of freedom.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Arafal View Post
    "Join us and become avatars of destruction with an incessant need to cause chaos and misery, or die and have your soul be shredded in our soul engines!"

    Truly the paragons of freedom.
    More than light or order followers. Aaaand they have style.

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    Did Blizz update the White Lady recently? Ingame at night time right now, and it looks WAY more detailed than what it used to. There are more dark sections rather than it being all white, and I can see the surface details more clearly because of this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    More than light or order followers. Aaaand they have style.
    "more than"

    There is no "more than".
    All of those factions subdue, manipulate and take away the control of the subjects beneath them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Auxis View Post
    Did Blizz update the White Lady recently? Ingame at night time right now, and it looks WAY more detailed than what it used to. There are more dark sections rather than it being all white, and I can see the surface details more clearly because of this.
    Yea, they updated the textures of both moons.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Auxis View Post
    Did Blizz update the White Lady recently? Ingame at night time right now, and it looks WAY more detailed than what it used to. There are more dark sections rather than it being all white, and I can see the surface details more clearly because of this.
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  15. #70995
    Quote Originally Posted by Lady Atia View Post
    But the Legion did nothing wrong? I would rather be some Demonlady with a nice palace on Argus than a brainwashed Light/Order/Life slave. Void or Death would also work out for me, I guess.
    Not sure if sarcasm tbh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Not sure if sarcasm tbh.
    Legion and Void are the real heroes of the story who fight against the tyrannical facism of Order and Light.

    Just because we have been brainfashed by the fascists it doesn't make us the good guys.

  17. #70997
    Quote Originally Posted by Lahis View Post
    Legion and Void are the real heroes of the story who fight against the tyrannical facism of Order and Light.

    Just because we have been brainfashed by the fascists it doesn't make us the good guys.
    Isn't the void all about mind control?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    Uhm its not like its a difficult story... I am sure the people know what they are talking about.

    These comments usually come from people who are a fan and dont want him to die. The way the story could go in their eyes doesnt seem farfetched at all.

    Its just not yet the time i would say.
    Rather the inverse comments come from Horde stans who want him to die for parity. Just cause Blizzard villain batted people on one side, doesn't mean they need to do it for the other side (not to mention Sylvanas was ALWAYS a villain and Garrosh was a villain as early as Wrath prepatch).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xilurm View Post
    Not sure if sarcasm tbh.
    It's not. We are living in a post truth society and we need to vilify anything that would conventionally be holy.

  19. #70999
    Turalyon should be begin the extreme jihad to add some meat to the toothless joke of a playable race he leads and to his post-Tides of Darkness wet blanket of a character, but it isn't going to happen.
    Dickmann's Law: As a discussion on the Lore forums becomes longer, the probability of the topic derailing to become about Sylvanas approaches 1.

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  20. #71000
    I would join the Titans and their Order 9 times out of 10. At least they don't go around butchering everything in sight. And both them and their creations are shown to show compassion towards the races that escaped their "ordering" and have a free will.

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