1. #71141
    Quote Originally Posted by Nymrohd View Post
    Ah nice so we are just shown things that are irrelevant because they look cool. That's a great defense of the narrative!
    So you're saying doing things because Rule of Cool is un-WarCraft-y?

  2. #71142
    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    The fact they can't even answer why they did the 5 Year Time Skip without stumbling makes you really wonder why they did it in the first place.
    It sounded to me more like he CAN'T explain. They have mentioned that it is to "age up characters in LATER stories" and none of them appear in Dragonflight at launch. So there's something going on with the timeskip that they felt the need to do in Dragonflight, but it doesn't actually matter at this time, and Danuser actually is not allowed to explain the true purpose during these interviews.

    Same thing with Gilneas. It sounds kinda... revampy.

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    Here it is!! https://twitter.com/unshackled_fury/...afRxm1lSHmnvaw

    Another interview with Ion and AnnieFuchsia today at 1:00 P.M. EDT!
    Ion mentions that 10.02 is a small-midsize patch after launch and that they want to do more smaller patches inbetween 10.1/10.2 etc.

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    Was it the info for 10.0.2 that was coming after launch or was it the patch?

    Honestly a 5 month cadence would be insane even without the knowledge of how many raid tiers are in Dragonflight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    Was it the info for 10.0.2 that was coming after launch or was it the patch?

    Honestly a 5 month cadence would be insane even without the knowledge of how many raid tiers are in Dragonflight.
    Ion said 5-6 months between major patches. So a return to Legion style.

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    I rather they not reveal everything to us ahead of time and really I can figure out what my character(s) are doing for the past few years.
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  6. #71146
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    So you're saying doing things because Rule of Cool is un-WarCraft-y?
    The rule of cool isn't an excuse anymore. It's not 2004.

  7. #71147
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    [The Primalists] aren't as sympathetic as they appear at launch.
    jfc do people really think they are misunderstood noble rebels? This is the Forsworn all over again...
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  8. #71148
    Quote Originally Posted by Cheezits View Post
    Ion said 5-6 months between major patches. So a return to Legion style.
    Yeah, essentially, they want to do patches with some content between major patches. Major patches will come around 5-6 months at most. Next patch will be 10.02 and we will be hearing about it “very soon”.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathanyel View Post
    jfc do people really think they are misunderstood noble rebels? This is the Forsworn all over again...
    People's problem with Forsworn is that they were in the right to start and didn't really get a good ending until a lot of them got killed. Also Devos's reason for joining the Jailer was skipped over.

    Now that we know that the Titans shaped the Dragons to do their bidding, people think the Primalists are sympathetic and its not fair that we are killing them. But apparently we are going to find out they did a lot of horrible things we aren't aware of yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nathanyel View Post
    jfc do people really think they are misunderstood noble rebels? This is the Forsworn all over again...
    I mean, Blizz literally said that Primalists aren't inherently evil, just following their own believes. So there you have it.
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  11. #71151
    Quote Originally Posted by Skildar View Post
    Watching Steve answer during the interview, I'm not sure if the pal is deflecting because the writing team doesn't want to acknowledge weakness or if he truly believes their decisions to be the right one. I was always on the fence about this guy but his answers made him look weaker than the material he produced with his team...
    Admitting a mistake wouldnt get them more than brownie points from those who care, it would be actively detrimental to those who want the story to go any direction other than the one we get.

    As has been said before on this thread, stating an expansion story is not canon would essentially be the writers conceding defeat and in the process setting a dangerous precedent that whatever they write will be made canon or not at a nebulous point in the future not necessarily because of writing that has happened at that point.

    Admitting the writing is bad would just be them building themselves up to a new standard that they cannot possibly bet on living up to, because even if the spirit of the great writers descended upon them and wrote an expansion, they would still be subject to circumstances outside their control, as well as scrutinized by players who hate the given direction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    I mean, Blizz literally said that Primalists aren't inherently evil, just following their own believes. So there you have it.
    "From my Point of View the Titans are evil"


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  13. #71153
    Quote Originally Posted by Atticon View Post
    Unless that company is Japanese.
    Nintendo and Square Enix fuck up a lot too, so no...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    "From my Point of View the Titans are evil"


    I am sorry I had to do it
    I mean the entire point of Shadowlands was to literally enlighten people to the understanding that morality is uh a bit more complex than what has already been presented here.

    Not saying that people are wrong if they want to keep that perspective though. It's just the Narrative Team clearly wants to indicate that morality is a perception issue than an actual factual standpoint of which you should view the enemies you clobber to death to feel good about yourself.
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  15. #71155
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    I mean, Blizz literally said that Primalists aren't inherently evil, just following their own believes. So there you have it.
    They just said they aren't nearly as sympathetic as they initially appear...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    I mean, Blizz literally said that Primalists aren't inherently evil, just following their own believes. So there you have it.
    They want to wipe out all none elemental life that’s as inherently evil as you can get no matter what blizzard says.

    It’s just BFA all over again where they want to pretend committing genocide can be a shade of grey when really it’s as black as you can get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lorgar Aurelian View Post
    They want to wipe out all none elemental life that’s as inherently evil as you can get no matter what blizzard says.

    It’s just BFA all over again where they want to pretend committing genocide can be a shade of grey when really it’s as black as you can get.


    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    They just said they aren't nearly as sympathetic as they initially appear...


    Like Huth pointed out,we are going to learn some of the bad things the Primalists have done over the years with the Dragons. Its just a first initial impression and no its not BFA again. The Primalists aren't playable and players aren't gonna have to be forced to see their faction do the bad things and also its plainly obvious people can commit horrible things believing they are in the right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeluron Lightsong View Post
    Like Huth pointed out,we are going to learn some of the bad things the Primalists have done over the years with the Dragons. Its just a first initial impression and no its not BFA again. The Primalists aren't playable and players aren't gonna have to be forced to see their faction do the bad things and also its plainly obvious people can commit horrible things believing they are in the right.
    People doing horrible things and thinking they are right isn’t the same thing as blizzard knowing they are doing horrible things as well as writing them as horrible as possible but still pretending it’s a shade of grey like we got with BFA.

    As far as the primal’s go blizzard so far has been alot better and only shows them as bad guys which they are and it’s the fans pretending they have a leg to stand on when they don’t.
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  19. #71159
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    I mean, Blizz literally said that Primalists aren't inherently evil, just following their own believes. So there you have it.
    Do you realize that you can say that about literally every evil organization? It won't make them any less evil.

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