1. #7901
    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Battling injustice with injustice is the exact reaction this is implying, which is beyond silly. If a Succubus is too fetishized (in a video game, lol!) then remove it and replace it with something else. Adding a male version doesn't add anything besides doubling down on the initial problem.
    Removing them isn't battling injustice, it's throwing a blanket over it and pretending it doesn't exist. What's needed is a coolheaded examination of what they really are, and presenting that properly. The problem isn't their existence, it's pretending that their behaviour is socially acceptable.

  2. #7902
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    I just can't believe this is actually a thing.

    I'm laughing my ass off.

  3. #7903
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
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    I just can't believe this is actually a thing.

    I'm laughing my ass off.
    Just wait for the people who will come to Blizzard's defense on this. "Yo momma jokes are sexist in current year!"

  4. #7904
    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    Just wait for the people who will come to Blizzard's defense on this. "Yo momma jokes are sexist in current year!"
    Just read the comments section on WoWhead before it's inevitably locked.

  5. #7905
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
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    I just can't believe this is actually a thing.

    I'm laughing my ass off.
    Christ. I'm baffled.
    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    Which one of those ropes can I hang myself with

  6. #7906
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Just read the comments section on WoWhead before it's inevitably locked.
    Oof, I'd rather not. Even MMO-Champion, as horrid as some posters may be, is still not as terrible and cringeworthy as the wowhead comment section.

  7. #7907
    I really didn't think it couldn't get any dumber than the consorts or concubine renames but goddamn they really know how to outdo themselves.
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    Which one of those ropes can I hang myself with

  8. #7908
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
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    I just can't believe this is actually a thing.

    I'm laughing my ass off.
    Bellular shared some info on Twitter. From what he's heard from people, apparently the issue with Master Baiter wasn't the name was bad. The issue is apparently the NPC was named by one of the people indicted, and it was changed so their joke was no longer in the game.


    Really like that the name they chose for him now that I have the backstory on the new name though.
    FFXIV - Maduin (Dynamis DC)

  9. #7909
    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    Oof, I'd rather not. Even MMO-Champion, as horrid as some posters may be, is still not as terrible and cringeworthy as the wowhead comment section.
    Wowhead and reddit fight pretty hard over 1st place. MMO-Champ was up there too, but over years it became rather niche forum, so it's pretty chill in comparison. Most cringe shit are from fresh or not very active accounts.

  10. #7910
    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Bellular shared some info on Twitter. From what he's heard from people, apparently the issue with Master Baiter wasn't the name was bad. The issue is apparently the NPC was named by one of the people indicted, and it was changed so their joke was no longer in the game.


    Really like that the name they chose for him now that I have the backstory on the new name though.
    Bellular did not insinuate that as the truth, he mentioned that as an example of why they did so that makes more logical sense than a masturbation joke being too offensive. Suffice to say I am assuming they cannot legally state what is from disgraced developers and what isn't. The only determination you can make is based on checking Credits of the game for Quest Designers and others and obvious references to real life developers via their name being incorporated into the NPCs.

  11. #7911
    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    Bellular did not insinuate that as the truth, he mentioned that as an example of why they did so that makes more logical sense than a masturbation joke being too offensive. Suffice to say I am assuming they cannot legally state what is from disgraced developers and what isn't. The only determination you can make is based on checking Credits of the game for Quest Designers and others and obvious references to real life developers via their name being incorporated into the NPCs.
    Honestly, until somebody comes out and clarifies that that is the case, making up reasons for why the changes aren't ridiculous and have an actual valid reason is nothing more than bare-faced cope.

  12. #7912
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    Honestly, until somebody comes out and clarifies that that is the case, making up reasons for why the changes aren't ridiculous and have an actual valid reason is nothing more than bare-faced cope.
    And if what Bellular said was the case. Really? The guy doesn't own that joke. It wasn't even original to begin with. It's just so stupid.
    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
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  13. #7913
    Quote Originally Posted by GR8GODZILLAGOD View Post
    And if what Bellular said was the case. Really? The guy doesn't own that joke. It wasn't even original to begin with. It's just so stupid.
    Yeah. Master Baiter isn't exactly original. But hey, Hitler drank water, so I guess that's goodbye to water.

  14. #7914
    It's hard to say what's more stupid, Blizzard changing Wirt's Third Leg to Southsea Lamp or doomsayers thinking changing that it's spit on their faces and true end of WoW. Whole situation feels like Monty Python sketch.

  15. #7915
    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    It's hard to say what's more stupid, Blizzard changing Wirt's Third Leg to Southsea Lamp or doomsayers thinking changing that it's spit on their faces and true end of WoW. Whole situation feels like Monty Python sketch.
    The former. The latter is just pattern recognition.

  16. #7916
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    The former. The latter is just pattern recognition.
    Not THE END OF THE GAME!" but the latter shows the much more sanitized and boring gloss the game would be heading to.
    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
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  17. #7917
    Quote Originally Posted by GR8GODZILLAGOD View Post
    Not THE END OF THE GAME!" but the latter shows the much more sanitized and boring gloss the game would be heading to. Not THE END OF THE GAME!"
    Well, yeah. I dunno about the end of the game. WoW could chug along for decades to come if they want to, so it all depends on what you consider "the end."

    Soulless and with all edges smoothed out? I think you can argue for that. I don't get this obsession with trying to treat things like they're in a vacuum. "Oh, it's just one name change."

    Okay, now zoom out and take a look at all the removals and alterations made in Shadowlands alone with the full knowledge that we will only get more of that, not less.

  18. #7918
    Quote Originally Posted by Yarathir View Post
    https://ptr.wowhead.com/news/referen...24389#comments
    I just can't believe this is actually a thing.

    I'm laughing my ass off.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    Just wait for the people who will come to Blizzard's defense on this. "Yo momma jokes are sexist in current year!"
    won't be long before Illidan is revealed to be bi.
    Quote Originally Posted by Nerovar View Post
    They had no prior build-up and instead tried to leech off of already established things people are familiar with. The Scourge? Maldraxxus did that. The Lich King? The Jailer did that. Frostmourne? The Runecarver made that. Sargeras corruption by demons and everything resulting from that? Also the Jailer's plan.

  19. #7919
    Quote Originally Posted by DemonHunter18 View Post
    won't be long before Illidan is revealed to be bi.
    He's TyrandeSexual. Anything else is blatantly untrue.
    Quote Originally Posted by choom View Post
    Which one of those ropes can I hang myself with

  20. #7920
    Quote Originally Posted by GR8GODZILLAGOD View Post
    He's TyrandeSexual. Anything else is blatantly untrue.
    ha for now.

    if they are changing some dumb shit like this then I wouldn't be surprised if they do that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerovar View Post
    They had no prior build-up and instead tried to leech off of already established things people are familiar with. The Scourge? Maldraxxus did that. The Lich King? The Jailer did that. Frostmourne? The Runecarver made that. Sargeras corruption by demons and everything resulting from that? Also the Jailer's plan.

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