Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I would've preferred if they had just waited to push all these changes for 9.1.5 launch instead of piecemealing it and giving WoWHead free revenue. None of these changes would require PTR testing in the first place outside of the emote changes.

But, I guess we can't have that and instead we have to gaslight and highlight every PTR Build for some reason. It just comes off as really weird behavior and again this stuff shouldn't be major news every week. But, I guess it takes away attention from the fact we don't know jack about when 9.2 info will be given and whether the expansion ends after that.

So I guess it accomplishes something. I really really don't want discourse around World of Warcraft to be drowned out by this forever though. I'm all for the inclusivity additions though and sure I have no issues of them showing that stuff off if they have to. But, the fact they keep thinking this whole "every week we shall bestow upon you changes to the game that doesn't need to be implemented prior to patch release". I just find that part just extremely odd. These changes are not changes that would require actual testing from Players as they are mostly database entry changes. But, I digress I suppose.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

I would've preferred if they had just waited to push all these changes for 9.1.5 launch instead of piecemealing it and giving WoWHead free revenue. None of these changes would require PTR testing in the first place outside of the emote changes.

But, I guess we can't have that and instead we have to gaslight and highlight every PTR Build for some reason. It just comes off as really weird behavior and again this stuff shouldn't be major news every week. But, I guess it takes away attention from the fact we don't know jack about when 9.2 info will be given and whether the expansion ends after that.

So I guess it accomplishes something. I really really don't want discourse around World of Warcraft to be drowned out by this forever though. I'm all for the inclusivity additions though and sure I have no issues of them showing that stuff off if they have to. But, the fact they keep thinking this whole "every week we shall bestow upon you changes to the game that doesn't need to be implemented prior to patch release". I just find that part just extremely odd. These changes are not changes that would require actual testing from Players as they are mostly database entry changes. But, I digress I suppose.

It's really just wowhead and other data miners that make this a problem the wow devs them self are likely just applying this stuff to see if its working and then never mention it again.

[cocomen2]

He's TyrandeSexual. Anything else is blatantly untrue.

I can bet he loves Malfurion more, and just wanted to pull that nasty Tyrande away from him.

[Lahis]

Besides, removing Succubi wholesale is close to impossible when they are so prevalent in the game, much easier then to just replace half of them with Incubi and call it a job well done.

Just replace all succubus models with imp mothers. Easy.

[Dracullus]

It's really just wowhead and other data miners that make this a problem the wow devs them self are likely just applying this stuff to see if its working and then never mention it again.

Almost every drama comes from datamining. Blue posts to clarify/explain stuff from PTR/Beta/hotfixes should be weekly thing.

[Yarathir]

Just replace all succubus models with imp mothers. Easy.

But then they have to bring back the Jormuttar jokes. :^)

[Black Rider]

What is 9.2 raid speculation? Maybe with little bit of evidence

[Lahis]

What is 9.2 raid speculation? Maybe with little bit of evidence

Sepulcher of the First Ones.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Zovaal needed Anduin, Anduin has been pre-established to be both Light & Void. N'zoth said he is the only that could save us. The Void will trip the security of the Sepulcher of Knowledge and Zovaal will be destroyed. (Already pre-established in the Pre-expansion book). Important to note that the Grimoire also states that The Primus is unbeatable and also got powers from the Void which is why he's unbeatable. Void will interfere and ruin Zovaals' plan and it will be seen as stunning and brave.

Or Infinity War happens although due to the source of the Infinity War claim is the Everliving Statuette which is also unreliable it is very likely that the "Everything will end soon" line is actually a red herring for those who believe in the Reset/Fortnite Chapter 2 idea and or the "Bronze Dragonflight expansion after this expansion" theory.

Mal'ganis will be a raid boss has basically been confirmed by reading the dialogue of when you free him and the land of Zereth Mortis will be the Island Zone(s) that we will be in during 9.2 World Content.

[Sondrelk]

What is 9.2 raid speculation? Maybe with little bit of evidence

Sepulcher of the first ones, or failing that something on Azeroth.

The Sepulcher is hunted at heavily, and the most likely reason to not have it be a raid is that the location is only important to show the way to the actual raid.

Something on Azeroth is likely because there isn't really anywhere else to go that could be important. We have already raised Torghast, and the Sepulcher seems important enough that I cannot imagine we are getting an even more secret area beyond it.
Going back to Azeroth allows us to reground the conflict back in what the expansion started as, and allows several characters arcs to end in satisfying ways.

As for what area we would raid on Azeroth my guess would either be Undercity or somewhere completely unknown, like a hidden First Ones facility.

[Raetary]

What is 9.2 raid speculation? Maybe with little bit of evidence

What's there to speculate about?

9.2 will be Zereth Mortis and the Sepulcher.

[Sondrelk]

What's there to speculate about?

9.2 will be Zereth Mortis and the Sepulcher.

Zereth Mortis and the Sepulcher could be insignificant compared to where we are actually going.
Could be we go there and just get confirmation that we need to go back to Azeroth, whether that means as patch content or just in a raid.

As for most likely it is definitely just Zereth Mortis as a zone and the Sepulcher as a raid.

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And would you look at that. The page 400 milestone...



This thread moves so damn slow compared to BfA, doesn't it.
Really feel like we need something more substantial to discuss other than the sheer amount of nothing that is the SL plot.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Honestly, I always felt like the Jailor going to the Sepulcher should've been a CGI Cinematic that gets us hyped for the last defense of Azeroth being the final patch. But, I suppose we're going for the disappointing ending twice with ending it in 9.2 on Zereth Mortis and at The Sepulcher.

[Sondrelk]

Honestly, I always felt like the Jailor going to the Sepulcher should've been a CGI Cinematic that gets us hyped for the last defense of Azeroth being the final patch. But, I suppose we're going for the disappointing ending twice with ending it in 9.2 on Zereth Mortis and at The Sepulcher.

It could be a disappointing ending no matter where we go, and for that matter it could be a spectacular ending even if we don't get any new zones. In the end we just need to wait and see what gets revealed.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Yeah, I mean they have elements from what they've teased that could lead to an interesting conclusion. But, I also have a hard time believing that this will end salvageably due to all the circumstances. But we'll see.

Regardless, nothing is going to happen until the launch of 9.1.5 + 2 weeks after anyways.

[Hyrja]

10.0 will be The Great Reset for WoW. 9.2 will be a massacre for Azeroth

[Makorus]

10.0 will be The Great Reset for WoW. 9.2 will be a massacre for Azeroth

Just like 9.0 was, and 8.0 was and 7.0 was?

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Just like 9.0 was, and 8.0 was and 7.0 was?

10.0 is more of a big one that those. Community and probably Blizzard perception wise.


OT: If Zovaal does end up being a boss(As in we do actually fight him and not proxy) and hes in the dungeon journal then its the end storyline.

[Makorus]

10.0 is more of a big one that those. Community and probably Blizzard perception wise.


OT: If Zovaal does end up being a boss(As in we do actually fight him and not proxy) and hes in the dungeon journal then its the end storyline.

How so?

WoD was "Oh, we are gonna return from Draenor and the world will be chaaanged because we weren't there to defend it!"

Legion was "Oh, while we are on Argus, something will take over while we aren't there to defend it!" and also "Oh no, Sargeras sword will remake the entire world!!!"

BFA was "Oh no, NZoth will trick us into going to Nyalotha and then take over the world!!!"

Every single time people were so sure that it would be the big revamp expansion.

No event in an expansion is going to be the cause of a world revamp.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I am just kinda excited to see all the Cut & Run peoples' faces and reactions when they realize we have a unsatisfactorily conclusion to this expansion and also the next expansion is another cosmic realm.