Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Cosmic Janitor]

Jack Thompson must be smiling right now.

He is probably still ranting about the MS flight simulator being a terrorist training tool.

[Yarathir]

He is probably still ranting about the MS flight simulator being a terrorist training tool.

A little smirk in between it all.

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Well sadly society has not yet gotten to the point where people are trusted to understand that sexually harassing people is wrong like what society expects people to understand with murder.

Also context is important. The flirting lines are not treated with the same weight as quests where you wantonly kill and murder.

Most people here seem to understand. Most people seemed to expect Blizzard to understand.

My god you guys are such nannies. Do you ever just have fun?

(Who am I kidding? Of course not. You still vehemently play WoW.)

[Sondrelk]

A little smirk in between it all.

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Most people here seem to understand. Most people seemed to expect Blizzard to understand.

My god you guys are such nannies. Do you ever just have fun?

(Who am I kidding? Of course not. You still vehemently play WoW.)

Going by the amount of people i have seen that complain against the "feminazi agenda" or similar I would argue there are many who don't.

[Yarathir]

Going by the amount of people i have seen that complain against the "feminazi agenda" or similar I would argue there are many who don't.

Ah, this is the point where you conflate a massive ideology with different branches including extremist ones with basic social sensibilities.

Everyone who isn't an intersectional radfem who whinges about old white men all day has to also not understand consent. And how's that working out for you? Considering the penchant for "male allies" to be caught with their pants down being exceptionally statistically likely to do heinous shit that totally contradict their supposed views.

[Cherry123]

future narration will give me a cringe with new censorship

[Sondrelk]

Ah, this is the point where you conflate a massive ideology with different branches including extremist ones with basic social sensibilities.

Everyone who isn't an intersectional radfem who whinges about old white men all day has to also not understand consent. And how's that working out for you? Considering the penchant for "male allies" to be caught with their pants down being exceptionally statistically likely to do heinous shit that totally contradict their supposed views.

I don't exactly feel like I am wrong for looking at a forum filled with people angry at the removal of inappropriate flirting or the renaming of quests named after juvenile sexual innuendos and making the leap that this is a group of people that make light of a real issue.

I can absolutely agree that this is a kinda weak way of remedying this problem, but it's at least something, which tends to be better than nothing.


Also, that took you all of 2 posts from arguing that you shouldn't personally attack someone, to personally attacking me for my views and insinuating I am a horrible misogynist.

Kinda impressive in a way.

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

It’s a marvelous display of horseshoe theory. Only instead of video games cause violence, it’s video games cause sexual harassment.

[Yarathir]

I don't exactly feel like I am wrong for looking at a forum filled with people angry at the removal of inappropriate flirting or the renaming of quests named after juvenile sexual innuendos and making the leap that this is a group of people that make light of a real issue.

I can absolutely agree that this is a kinda weak way of remedying this problem, but it's at least something, which tends to be better than nothing.


Also, that took you all of 2 posts from arguing that you shouldn't personally attack someone, to personally attacking me for my views and insinuating I am a horrible misogynist.

Kinda impressive in a way.

Honestly, that's just a kafkatrap.

I made a comment about you then? Because I only highlighted that for all their bluster, one of the groups disproportionately in the center of sex scandals are self-proclaimed male allies. Don't wear that shoe if it doesn't fit.

[Sondrelk]

Honestly, that's just a kafkatrap.

I made a comment about you then? Because I only highlighted that for all their bluster, one of the groups disproportionately in the center of sex scandals are self-proclaimed male allies. Don't wear that shoe if it doesn't fit.

A kafkatrap, I see.
So kinda like looking at those who think the ability to moan at strangers is wrong, and immediately jumping to those people being fervent misogynists?
What exactly am I supposed to argue here then? Should I say I beat women daily? Will that make my position on saying I agree with the removal of most of these emotes seem more genuine?

You are not even arguing artistic integrity here. At least that I could respect.

[Yarathir]

A kafkatrap, I see.
So kinda like looking at those who think the ability to moan at strangers is wrong, and immediately jumping to those people being fervent misogynists?
What exactly am I supposed to argue here then? Should I say I beat women daily? Will that make my position on saying I agree with the removal of most of these emotes seem more genuine?

You are not even arguing artistic integrity here. At least that I could respect.

You do realize you're here pretty much deepthroating the shoe, right?

[Sondrelk]

You do realize you're here pretty much deepthroating the shoe, right?

By not throwing a fit over a couple of emotes changing? Or by not caring about the changed paintings?

[Yarathir]

By not throwing a fit over a couple of emotes changing? Or by not caring about the changed paintings?

No, by getting real upset by the observation that the people to wail the hardest over the necessity of the removal of innocuous shit like this also happen to statistically significantly be the people with skeletons in their closet.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Well since most of the Jokes/Flirts seem incomplete. (Many of the more controversial ones aren't even touched imo) I bet we're getting another build with more drama next week. I don't get why they keep doing this because it is pretty obvious all of this was planned ahead of time. So why is it that they feel it is necessary to publically showcase this nonsense every week? It is to showcase that the game belongs to them and not you. I suppose. I do find it relatively odd how a lot of this stuff does not fit criteria at all of what they wrote and again it can't all be explained away that this was all done by "disgraced developer". The consistent ramming this into everyones' heads that this is how things are going to be moving forward. It's genuinely frustrating because all of these changes do not need testing outside of the emotes and could be implemented on patch launch as they are database entry changes.

I mean I genuinely find this amusing at this point. Because even if this new culture is this way where "No sex/No inappropriate jokes/No flirting/Nothing allowed" and yet they still won't write diverse characters and instead as we saw with Shadowlands they opted for blatant tokenism of both relationships and characters instead of actually making them real characters. So yeah, I just don't see the end game here. Their narrative team has consistently throughout the decades written the stereotypical female character who becomes hysterical over the smallest thing and in WoW it always turns them into genocidal maniacs until they suspiciously calm down again. This is even without the "old guard" female character portrayal of them being in skimpy clothing and you know which characters I am talking about here.

I genuinely find it amusing that these idiots take higher wage cuts for working in this industry rather than the IT sector and then proceed that their heavenly path laid before them is to essentially sanitize and splatter tokenism everywhere as if it legitimately means something. But the moment you start asking where is the intimate relationships of the same gender. Nah fam that's too much, here have some more tokenism where we show that these people are homosexual or this person is transgender and we failed to even FUNDAMENTALLY UNDERSTAND PRONOUNS SO WE HAD TO HAVE FEEDBACK FOR IT. Oh you're a white male? You're a disgrace.

I genuinely find this whole situation hilarious. If the company actually made compelling stories that supported the LGBTQIA++ community while improving representation. But, instead it is always just an afterthought and seemingly done just to get a meeting setup for fistbumps around the non-privileged in the office. It's pathetic, honestly.

Meanwhile the backdrop of all this is a Nietsche level emo-drama that has the pace of snails with a big blue man with his chest bare and his nipples puffing out while their form of representation here is that Sylvanas is turned into this ridiculous savior character so that in their heads women everywhere can relate and celebrate Sylvanas after this is all over but forgetting about her crimes, go figure.

[Yarathir]

This is just one minor patch btw. Just one minor little patch and they've already racked up a massive laundry list of changes to some of the most innocuous shit in the game.

There's still 9.2 and 9.2.5 presumably and 10.0. You think it's going to stop with 9.1.5 and stay isolated to that patch alone? Lol.

[Makabreska]

This is just one minor patch btw. Just one minor little patch and they've already racked up a massive laundry list of changes to some of the most innocuous shit in the game.

There's still 9.2 and 9.2.5 presumably and 10.0. You think it's going to stop with 9.1.5 and stay isolated to that patch alone? Lol.

They just have to release content and everyone will forget about all of this.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

They just have to release content and everyone will forget about all of this.

Well, it doesn't seem like they have any CGI Cinematic baits or Content baits available right now (other than the Mage Tower being thrown into the game and then left to rot over the next years). They have to make sure we wait till post-9.1.5 launch before we are even allowed to know the future of the game. Which is an very odd decision, mind you. Especially when you consider the fact that they are leaving the Q3-Q4 period with a lot of its userbase in sheer apathy rather than excitement for the future of the game. But, suffice to say I guess we just have to play by their rules of engagement which is that if a patch has been announced. There'll be no news until after its launch.

[Makabreska]

Well, it doesn't seem like they have any CGI Cinematic baits or Content baits available right now (other than the Mage Tower being thrown into the game and then left to rot over the next years). They have to make sure we wait till post-9.1.5 launch before we are even allowed to know the future of the game. Which is an very odd decision, mind you. Especially when you consider the fact that they are leaving the Q3-Q4 period with a lot of its userbase in sheer apathy rather than excitement for the future of the game. But, suffice to say I guess we just have to play by their rules of engagement which is that if a patch has been announced. There'll be no news until after its launch.

Oh, they don't have to do much. Incubus promise already made many players happy. Current drama will be quickly forgotten.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Oh, they don't have to do much. Incubus promise already made many players happy. Current drama will be quickly forgotten.

Well, I hope that those changes are more plentiful going forward rather than all these changes that negate stuff.

[Dracullus]

This is just one minor patch btw. Just one minor little patch and they've already racked up a massive laundry list of changes to some of the most innocuous shit in the game.

There's still 9.2 and 9.2.5 presumably and 10.0. You think it's going to stop with 9.1.5 and stay isolated to that patch alone? Lol.

What's the point of this post? Obviously no one is planning to end WoW in one or two patches. Doesn't mean they are gonna rewrite whole game into carebears. And if they do, anyone can leave when he want. It's just a game and it's stupid to worry and complain about something that could happen. Focus and leave feedback about things that are happening.

Reminds me of all these doomsaying that store will gonna expand every year and sell stuff like allied races, covenant swap.

Oh, they don't have to do much. Incubus promise already made many players happy. Current drama will be quickly forgotten.

Or rather replaced with different drama. This community is in constant state of hysteria, which gives Blizzard pass to do almost whatever.

[Accendor]

Oh, they don't have to do much. Incubus promise already made many players happy. Current drama will be quickly forgotten.

Ofc or will be quickly forgotten, there are not many people left to remember it in the first place.