Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Lahis]

What timeframe, can u share?

If they want to release 10.0 in one year from now, they need the people to make it now.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I mean, their interpretation wouldn’t really be “wrong” per say. Certain souls have different soul splitting ordeals. You could tell the half we saw was very split on what she wanted to do and acted out in anger a ton, with practically no remorse for those actions.

Thats my point she may just be the same despite reuniting with the other part of her soul but with different perspective.

[Sondrelk]

Thats my point she may just be the same despite reuniting with the other part of her soul but with different perspective.

At the very least she will have reunited with a half that has no idea what has been going on. So in a sense she will see the atrocities and horrors she has commited as someone who just got killed by Arthas.
I would consider it like if someone knocked you out tomorrow, then you woke up 20 years later from a coma except you remember going around murdering innocent people and commiting horrible atrocities upon random townsfolk.
I can absolutely see how that would be a shock.

[Makabreska]

If they are reworking professions, they should start with adding actual gameplay to crafting professions.

Make them more engaging, turn them into mini games like they did in legion with jewelcrafting.
Let alchemists mix their potions on their own.
Let blacksmiths swing their hammers.
Let Tailors weave their threads.
etc.

Do you realize how quickly all this stuff would become tedious? This is not how you make profs more engaging.

[Raetary]

Do you realize how quickly all this stuff would become tedious? This is not how you make profs more engaging.

I'm sure Blizz can come up with a way or another to make that less tedious or speed it up.

If all else fails, they can always add a quick-craft option to skip the mini game.

[Makabreska]

I'm sure Blizz can come up with a way or another to make that less tedious or speed it up.

If all else fails, they can always add a quick-craft option to skip the mini game.

Sure, but that would make entire thing a waste of resources, because you can bet your ass everybody and their moms would pick skip option over any type of mini-game. This is not the way, and honestly I don't know how to improve them beyond quest chains they did in Legion. I don't really think profs should be even focused much, when we got much more important issues to deal with.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

At the very least she will have reunited with a half that has no idea what has been going on. So in a sense she will see the atrocities and horrors she has commited as someone who just got killed by Arthas.
I would consider it like if someone knocked you out tomorrow, then you woke up 20 years later from a coma except you remember going around murdering innocent people and commiting horrible atrocities upon random townsfolk.
I can absolutely see how that would be a shock.

I had to check Uther again and you are right, in a way if I understand it it would be like you were killed by Arthas and the next thing you are conscience of, well you have a few people staring at you angerly. I assume thats what they are trying to do cause its almost obvious. Blizz made us used to the idea of a soul being damaged/shattered to get us ready for some Sylvanas twist.

[Nyel]

If they want to release 10.0 in one year from now, they need the people to make it now.

I mean, if 10.0 is scheduled for Q4/22 (I think Q3/22 would be way better if they could achieve this, but they likely won't), Alpha testing isn't that far away. So they better have these things semi-developed already.

[Hitei]

I'm sure Blizz can come up with a way or another to make that less tedious or speed it up.

If all else fails, they can always add a quick-craft option to skip the mini game.

Easy enough to just have a mastery system where crafting the recipe X number of times unlocks automated crafting.

But I really don't think minigames are going to solve the problems professions have.

Well, no one said it will be easy. Or that they will succeed.

For me account-wide tab for ALL recipes would be a start. I have some rare recipes and don't want them perma delete, so I'm stuck with same professions on main. To avoid switching professions on the fly all they have to do is introducing small tax for switch, even few 1.5k gold is enough (cause Legion and BfA recipes already had something like that).

Second, introducing housing would give professions a lot of cosmetics patterns. And we could play around with these more than stuff used for min-maxing.

But that is exactly the sort of thing that has professions in their current state. All account-wide professions stuff will do is further devalue profession investment and discourge player interaction. No need to bother actually doing profession stuff on an alt when you can just grab recipes on your main and unlock it for everything.

[Vakna]

If they are reworking professions, they should start with adding actual gameplay to crafting professions.

Make them more engaging, turn them into mini games like they did in legion with jewelcrafting.
Let alchemists mix their potions on their own.
Let blacksmiths swing their hammers.
Let Tailors weave their threads.
etc.

I'll take a big pass on that, it's already tedious crafting all my blues every day for AH posting, if I had to do a minigame each time I'd be out fast as fuck.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I don't even know what to do with Professions other then use some of the other vanilla into sets(They sorta have this for some but I'm talking complete sets, doesn't have to have uber stats could just be cosmetic in general).

Like a copper set, Iron, Mithril Truesilver etc etc and yes including expansion sets to. Its not big or even revolutionary but its what I would do.


Edit: I'd ask the same for tailoring if you get the point).

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I would really love if they made plain cloth/leather/mail/plate gear for transmogs with each armor specializations specific professions.

Then again I just love more and more plain HDified normal armor.

[Three Faced Goddess]

Unlike the Shadowlands cinematic which generated a lot of drama and fiasco due to Sylvanas humiliating Bolvar.

Still super pissy about that. Thought I'd get over it, but can't bear to watch the cinematic again.

[Teriz]

I don't even know what to do with Professions other then use some of the other vanilla into sets(They sorta have this for some but I'm talking complete sets, doesn't have to have uber stats could just be cosmetic in general).

Like a copper set, Iron, Mithril Truesilver etc etc and yes including expansion sets to. Its not big or even revolutionary but its what I would do.


Edit: I'd ask the same for tailoring if you get the point).

Streamlining the mat requirements would be nice. Some of the early recipes have absurd requirements.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Oh you realised the Sylvanas Redemption Plan.

Less redemption more "break glass in case of major sub loss."

- - - Updated - - -

New job advert saying they have ambitious plans for professions - https://twitter.com/nite_moogle/stat...64352544219138

First they gotta make professions relevant before they do anything ambitious with them. Bring back Crafted gear being pre-Raid BiS.

[Three Faced Goddess]

Less redemption more "break glass in case of major sub loss."

If they think this is going make people re-sub, I think they're doing it wrong. This doesn't make me want to re-sub. It's nearing the point where I might just stop re-subbing altogether. WoW is growing away from the game I used to love. It used to be an escape for me, a place to get away from my real life. It helped me cope, so it's really not an easy decision for me.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

...No Sylvanas being redeemed isn't some "OH SHIT WE BETTER DO THIS TO SAVE OUR HIDES" No, they aren't that cynical, this forum might be though.


Edit: Assuming Sylvanas is actually getting redeemed.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

...No Sylvanas being redeemed isn't some "OH SHIT WE BETTER DO THIS TO SAVE OUR HIDES" No, they aren't that cynical, this forum might be though.

It's not "save our hides."

They did the same thing with Illidan. With these popular villains they've developed a tendency to not kill them but instead put them on ice to bring them back later if they need the injection of "oh shit WoW is bringing back <popular character>!"

[Makabreska]

It's not "save our hides."

They did the same thing with Illidan. With these popular villains they've developed a tendency to not kill them but instead put them on ice to bring them back later if they need the injection of "oh shit WoW is bringing back <popular character>!"

Well, they did say they wasted Illidan hard in BC, and bringing him back in Legion made perfect sense with DH's and final BL showdown. And it's not even putting them on ice for later. Arthas and Illidan had a 100% death back then, but just like in Marvel/DC, if they want to bring back a character, they will.

[Sondrelk]

Comparing Sylvanas to Illidan seems a tad reductive.
For one Illidan was only particularly evil in TBC, which was both maligned by badly written characters, as well as really old by the time Legion was in development.
Secondly, Illidan was dead, he wasn't running around continuing to be evil until he suddenly got a redemption arc.