Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[hllfrmththrsd]

The colour scheme reminds me of Alexstrasza (especially her heroes of the storm skin) as well as ears = her horns, dragons next?

[Raetary]

Don't forget they said time goes by much faster in the Shadowlands. So when we return to Azeroth alot of things may have changed while we were gone.

*sigh*

People are still pushing this?
No, time is not flowing any different than it does anywhere else.

[rainhard]

At first i thought the cat hinted more of the sun and moon thing(zones, characters, not sure yet) but now i am not as certain because the descriptions seems more general than the skyblazers ones, but could also be because it is a cat i guess and they wanted it to be playful.

I'm prolly the only WoW fan hyped for An'she

Not the only one yet but we definetely are not many, really wanna explore sun side of things since elune is so much more prominent and i always liked the theme of the sunwalkers.

[Osmeric]

They actually meant space is much different in Shadowlands, not time. When we get back, WoW will fit on mobile phones.

[Nagawithlegs]

At first i thought the cat hinted more of the sun and moon thing(zones, characters, not sure yet) but now i am not as certain because the descriptions seems more general than the skyblazers ones, but could also be because it is a cat i guess and they wanted it to be playful.

I wouldn't worry too much about descriptions, the Sylverian dreamer came out of a painting/was named after an artist but is an Ardenweald dragon despite having nothing to do with its name or description.

[Makorus]

Don't forget they said time goes by much faster in the Shadowlands. So when we return to Azeroth alot of things may have changed while we were gone.

That's literally not what it means at all considering we literally have people come to the Shadowlands from Azeroth, and us being canonically being able to leave.

[Sondrelk]

*sigh*

People are still pushing this?
No, time is not flowing any different than it does anywhere else.

If time is flowing different then it will be used to explain why nothing has changed, not why we have a timeskip.
It's what makes far more sense in explaining the different realms and how Kael'thas has supposedly been in Revendreth for ages, or how the Kyrian can ferry souls so efficiently.

[TheFirstOnes]

If time is flowing different then it will be used to explain why nothing has changed, not why we have a timeskip.
It's what makes far more sense in explaining the different realms and how Kael'thas has supposedly been in Revendreth for ages, or how the Kyrian can ferry souls so efficiently.

But time’s not flowing differently…

[Edoll]

And Bastion as well. The zone with a heavy Light theme and a secret Shaman area.

Secret shaman area? I tried Google and I can't find anything on it. Do you have any more information that would aid me in my search?

[Nagawithlegs]

Secret shaman area? I tried Google and I can't find anything on it. Do you have any more information that would aid me in my search?

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Cha...Unspoken_Pacts

There is a Dark Shaman totem and a moving magma sphere here.



There is another room nearby that is used for a WQ but this currently has no purpose. Unsure if it's abandoned stuff or a hint that the Kyrian are secretly tied to the elements/Shamans (the name implies it is some kind of secret)

[huth]

But time’s not flowing differently…

For what it's worth, we can't actually tell since we have no news from Azeroth. Probably isn't, though, since somebody should remark on that if it did.

[Ersula]

If time is flowing different then it will be used to explain why nothing has changed, not why we have a timeskip.
It's what makes far more sense in explaining the different realms and how Kael'thas has supposedly been in Revendreth for ages, or how the Kyrian can ferry souls so efficiently.

A summery of the Timeskip "theory"
1.) Ion said time works differently in the shadowlands. He specifically referred to time moving *much faster* on Azeroth. But sometimes devs say things at lore pannels that are totally wrong. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
2.) "Nothings changed" on Azeroth but all zones you visit in game exist in a specific place in time. Canonically no involved in the Shadowlands plot has checked in on whats going on back on Azeroth, but Talia & Calia "visiting" is contentious to this. (They entered after us, but as far as we know they haven't returned)
3.) It's likely that this was just to cover their butts when they reveal whatever caused the Arbiter to go to sleep. The most educated guess it was when Argus was killed but that's not definitive. The presence of Legion characters in Shadowlands could just be the result of them being rescued like Alexandros was.
4.) Basically if they want to do a Timeskip, they could. But it would still feel like an asspull. He was probably just invoking other fantasy settings where light makes time go faster & shadow makes time go slower

[Palapop]

Yeah, we've posted about it here and there since they were added back in 9.0.1 (and 9.1), I recently renamed the models and we've been talking about them a bit more due to the whole drought thing, so that's why it is picking up steam again. There's no way to be sure if it's part of something larger or just another revamp because they could (like Uther's Shrine), there are some more things connected to these models that tie it in with other new things like the Hearthstone Tavern but I don't think anyone has really bothered looking at it very deeply yet. Maybe when 9.2 comes around!

Ah ok Didn't know it was mentioned here before.

Well yeah, they also said that Uthers tomb was "it just happened". And yet he had his spotlight in following expansion.
And if they confirmed it had to do something about following expansion, it would be clear as eye that next exp would be Shadowlands.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Ok, veryyyyyy confused by the cat mount. Like, I wasn't expecting this at all.

[ChairmanKaga]

Lifelands was going to be a thing since they namedropped it this expansion. It being its own expansion has a .001% chance, its way more likely to be a patch because we've run out of zones in the Shadowlands.

Aren't there supposed to be an infinite number of "realms" or whatever the zones are called?

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Aren't there supposed to be an infinite number of "realms" or whatever the zones are called?

Technically yes, and the Arbiter can create new afterlives if the need arrises. That part though is under question because she seems to be part of orb that seems to have some hold on souls. I think the Arbiter might not be a thing after we're through with SL.

[Nagawithlegs]

Aren't there supposed to be an infinite number of "realms" or whatever the zones are called?

Right, but why would we go to any non important ones?

[Fahrad Wagner]

Right, but why would we go to any non important ones?

Another question is, what made the four realms we visited more important than the other ones?

[Sondrelk]

Another question is, what made the four realms we visited more important than the other ones?

Presumably because they have an actual purpose instead of just being places where souls frolic forever.
Maldraxxus is the standing army, Kyrians get souls from the regular world to the Shadowlands, Ardenweald gets all the souls that will reincarnate, and Revendreth is for problematic souls.

Really Revendreth could probably be removed from the other three since it's purpose is less integral to the Shadowlands as a whole. Unless we are to understand that pretty much every soul goes to Revendreth first then the only special part about it is that souls are expected to leave eventually.

Some of the other afterlives mentioned are ones like the eternal inn where souls essentially get the experience of forever coming home after a long day of work, long trip or generally want the experience of coming home to a warm bed and family.

[Nagawithlegs]

Another question is, what made the four realms we visited more important than the other ones?

Probably the First Ones doing their ordering, but there may be a deeper story to it: note how Denathrius and the Nathrezim may be a similar species to the Winter Queen and Sylvar (hairy faun legs), and Kyrestia and the Kyrian are the first humanoids who are apparently not titanic.