Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Hellspawn]

You also kinda missed the part where this Expansion’s also about the balance between LIFE and Death.

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It is about the great cycle but mainly about how unjust the death system is, not so much about the balance of life & death.

When I was talking about build-up, I was talking about the build-up to a Elune vs Zovaal.

[LordKharon]

I could see them doing a "Alliance focused" expansion. With Anduin returning and Turalyon not willing to give up his power. Inter-Alliance-war with the Horde helping Anduin, And yes i stole this from the latest video of a certain streamer, but i think it would be quite a nice story for a more Azeroth centered expansion (with heavy light/void influence).

[Teriz]

I could see them doing a "Alliance focused" expansion. With Anduin returning and Turalyon not willing to give up his power. Inter-Alliance-war with the Horde helping Anduin, And yes i stole this from the latest video of a certain streamer, but i think it would be quite a nice story for a more Azeroth centered expansion (with heavy light/void influence).

I think the best way to do that is have that occur within a Lightbound invasion with Yrel and an evil Naaru-empowered army. Given Turalyon's history with the Lightforged Draenei, he'd be very torn.

[Lady Atia]

So I just bought the new cute cat mount and it's head jewellery looks quite similiar to the silver and green options for blood elf juwels customization. Sooooo I'm all on #TeamSunwell for now haha.

[Nyel]

I could see them doing a "Alliance focused" expansion. With Anduin returning and Turalyon not willing to give up his power. Inter-Alliance-war with the Horde helping Anduin, And yes i stole this from the latest video of a certain streamer, but i think it would be quite a nice story for a more Azeroth centered expansion (with heavy light/void influence).

No thank you. It's basically MoP / BfA just with mirrored factions this time.

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So I just bought the new cute cat mount and it's head jewellery looks quite similiar to the silver and green options for blood elf juwels customization. Sooooo I'm all on #TeamSunwell for now haha.

Just seems the most fitting. If you put that mount into Eversong Forest nobody would recognize it as it blends perfectly with the zone. The saddle could be Nightborne related, they have similar styles. Nightborne are Horde. So there you go.

What if they rework Silvermoon to be the Blood Elf and Highborne capital of the Horde?

[Hitei]

Just seems the most fitting. If you put that mount into Eversong Forest nobody would recognize it as it blends perfectly with the zone. The saddle could be Nightborne related, they have similar styles. Nightborne are Horde. So there you go.

What if they rework Silvermoon to be the Blood Elf and Highborne capital of the Horde?

So I just bought the new cute cat mount and it's head jewellery looks quite similiar to the silver and green options for blood elf juwels customization. Sooooo I'm all on #TeamSunwell for now haha.

Said it before, but be wary of looking at the armor details for a hint. Armor is usually the part of a store mount that is unique and unrelated, they tend to take some new mount-worthy mob from upcoming content, and then recolor and put a custom saddle/armor on it for the store mount. The Heart of the Aspect's armor has nothing to do with Pandaria, the Fae Dragon's armor is elvish-looking and has nothing to do with Shadowmoon/Draenei/Draenor, the Runesaber has fairly neutral, almost Kirin Tor-y armor and accessories, The Sylverian's armor is very neutral and nothing like the Night Fae's aesthetic.

[Dioporco]

According to the employees themselves, boycotting and not buying anything is BAD for them aswell. If people wanna buy a mount, let them. Its their own money and they can spent it on whatever the fuck they want. Stop crying and either participate in the discussion on what's to come next, or gtfo.

That because American Corporation will lay your ass down if they dont sell an extra mount a month, so people are forced to lie about IT WILL HURT!!! so foasmbn.


People can spend money how the like but dont buy the mount and cry because blizzard is blizzard then.

[Postmasters]

I doubt that there will be anything related to Elune with the Jailor. The only reason Elune is in this expansion at all is that they failed to finish up the Night Elf Ark.

We have of course heavy hints of her importance but I think most of that will be something we explore in a future expansion.

The story line with elune should of ended with the night elves declaring war on her and the nightfae... that whole plot line was entirely fucked up and explained in such a way worshiping znoth should of been seen as rational.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

The story line with elune should of ended with the night elves declaring war on her and the nightfae... that whole plot line was entirely fucked up and explained in such a way worshiping znoth should of been seen as rational.

Not really fucked, the storyline isn't complete.

It is about the great cycle but mainly about how unjust the death system is, not so much about the balance of life & death.

When I was talking about build-up, I was talking about the build-up to a Elune vs Zovaal.

I am not sure Elune is going to be doing any fighting. Course that could be wrong, I didn't expect the way they handled Elune so... /shrug

[Dioporco]

The mount store has

green eye

sunwell belf vibes


Sooooo i guess that after 1 entire EXP of dark and glooming colors we will have the shiny and bright one

[Kiivar86]

There's something about the mount that's a bit offputting to me but I think that may just be the glow making colors seem a bit off in a way.

And it isn't nearly as offputting to me as the recent rat mount's too-human eyes.

[Postmasters]

Not really fucked, the storyline isn't complete.





I am not sure Elune is going to be doing any fighting. Course that could be wrong, I didn't expect the way they handled Elune so... /shrug

I mean the story line atm is " lmao I let people burn to death intentionally to feed their souls to nature god but they went to hell instead lmao"

Z'noth so far seems to be the only diety that actually offers positives to his worshipers atm.

[Sondrelk]

I mean the story line atm is " lmao I let people burn to death intentionally to feed their souls to nature god but they went to hell instead lmao"

Z'noth so far seems to be the only diety that actually offers positives to his worshipers atm.

Unless you count Elune giving the Night Warrior powers to save planets, of course.

The planet Thiernax and Qadarin is from was about to be destroyed by an old god until Elune gave powers to Thiernax so he could defeat it.

Also general positives gained from being a beneficiary from a known deity. We do after all see that the Nelves prosper using Elunes power for general stuff, and they don't go insane to boot.

[huth]

Going way too deep. Most of the relevant mounts are just mobs native to the continent, not some elaborate reference. Look at basic visual and naming traits and their in-game associations.

Sylverian Dreamer = some connection to nature (sylv) and druidic (dream) themes, feathers double down on it = a druidic zone
Runesaber = arcane magic and a night elf traditional creature = Arcane Night elves
Heart of Aspects = chinese dragon = chinese-themed zone

Most light-based things in the game have a fairly unified aesthetic and this doesn't really match, particularly with the bright green eyes. The saddle is fairly elven, but that is the easiest bit of the model to switch. I agree with other people's first impression, which is that it is very Red Dragonflight. The flight leans really hard into bright reds and bright greens, and the catfox is both appropriately colored, a bit firey and good fit for a theoretical red dragon zone (you'd want nature and life based, but not druidic and plant-based like green dragons)

It's not like the hints were super useful, either. We couldn't make heads or tails of the Sylverian Dreamer until we heard of Ardenweald.

If it is related to some unreleased content, we may not understand the reference until it gets released and it can easily be something completely different from what we expect.

[GardensofLife]

Sun and moon are key but there are several members of the Pantheon of Life. Elune and An'she are simply the most familiar to the denizens of Azeroth. The fiery An'she represents warmth. What of the other necessities of life? Of air and earth and water? Elune serves a purpose to the Gardens that mirrors her sister in the Great Cycle. All the gardens they preside over rest among the boughs of the greatest tree yet to be seen that will put Teldrassil to shame.

[huth]

I mean the story line atm is " lmao I let people burn to death intentionally to feed their souls to nature god but they went to hell instead lmao"

Sure, if you ignore the whole part where Elune had no idea what was actually happening in the Shadowlands when not even the residents themselves did. She made a good faith effort to help her sister that failed due to circumstances completely outside her control and was not at all happy to learn about that.

"lmao" my ass.

[Postmasters]

Unless you count Elune giving the Night Warrior powers to save planets, of course.

The planet Thiernax and Qadarin is from was about to be destroyed by an old god until Elune gave powers to Thiernax so he could defeat it.

Also general positives gained from being a beneficiary from a known deity. We do after all see that the Nelves prosper using Elunes power for general stuff, and they don't go insane to boot.

I mean we have the perspectives of elunes followers. The old gods have never tried to destroy plants or even end life. From what we have seen they have gone to great lengths to preserve it. I also dont get the feeling elune has any actual say in the night warrior being invoked... it doesn't appear to be something she consciously chooses to do or even aware of once it's done.

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Sure, if you ignore the whole part where Elune had no idea what was actually happening in the Shadowlands when not even the residents themselves did. She made a good faith effort to help her sister that failed due to circumstances completely outside her control and was not at all happy to learn about that.

"lmao" my ass.

Just send her followers directly to the shadow lands... even the godless drust can do it...

[Sondrelk]

I mean we have the perspectives of elunes followers. The old gods have never tried to destroy plants or even end life. From what we have seen they have gone to great lengths to preserve it. I also dont get the feeling elune has any actual say in the night warrior being invoked... it doesn't appear to be something she consciously chooses to do or even aware of once it's done.

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Just send her followers directly to the shadow lands... even the godless drust can do it...

We see planets taken completely by old gods. Sure, maybe there are inhabitants still there, but I somehow doubt they have good odds of surviving in an obsidian and lava filled wasteland with tentacles literally large enough to reach space.

[AngerFork]

Sure, if you ignore the whole part where Elune had no idea what was actually happening in the Shadowlands when not even the residents themselves did. She made a good faith effort to help her sister that failed due to circumstances completely outside her control and was not at all happy to learn about that.

"lmao" my ass.

That's just it though. Elune didn't know why Ardenweald or her sister were in trouble, she just knew they were. Rather than trying to find what could be happening or even considering that there might be something broken in the Shadowlands, her first thought seems to have been "meh, I'll send her my favorite children right after they die horribly in a fire. I'll help some by making them fall asleep. That'll be enough to fix it, right?"

[Postmasters]

We see planets taken completely by old gods. Sure, maybe there are inhabitants still there, but I somehow doubt they have good odds of surviving in an obsidian and lava filled wasteland with tentacles literally large enough to reach space.

No idea to be honest. The worst in lore example of old god behavior we see is they might amongst one another using mortals when not aligned against a immediate threat.