Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Makorus]

I'm so sorry you think Blizzard's press releases are truthful. Again I point to the clear contradiction that Blizzard NEVER had that many non-development employees & "esport" departments are non-salary. Don't take press releases for face value.

Lying to their investors is probably one of the most idiotic things Blizzard could possibly do and could land them in hotter water than they are in at the moment.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

There's no evidence of a lie other then "CORPORASTIONS GONNA CORP" Lying about "big lay offs of non game development employees" isn't something you can just hide.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Everyone knows giraffes aren't real.

As chairman of the Giraffe Committee, I am deeply offended by this statement.

[Ersula]

Lying to their investors is probably one of the most idiotic things Blizzard could possibly do and could land them in hotter water than they are in at the moment.

If they consider testing non-development that's not lying in the corporate sense. Isn't capitalism magical.

[Sondrelk]

As chairman of the Giraffe Committee, I am deeply offended by this statement.

Clearly you cannot be trusted. A supposed chairman of a supposed committee for supposed giraffes would have a vested interest in the supposed giraffes not being outed as radio antennas.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Clearly you cannot be trusted. A supposed chairman of a supposed committee for supposed giraffes would have a vested interest in the supposed giraffes not being outed as radio antennas.

Preposterous... Wait until the Platypus Syndicate hears of this my little friend...

[Paperfox]

Preposterous... Wait until the Platypus Syndicate hears of this my little friend...

All this is evidence that giraffes are really good at hiding.

You really, really don't want to annoy the platypuses, when they get angry they make a wolverine seem like a lover's kiss.

[Luck4]

Blizzard updated most creatures, but outside of it we only started to see some job being done in Human buildings and a couple of trees here and there recently. It's hard to tell what's gonna happen, but a revamp expansion could still be one more expansion away from being announced.

These things could also mean another thing entirely different.

What I would like to see is an expansion in Azeroth that leads to another in the Dragon Isles, but then we have all this "Lifelands" stuff being added to the game store...

Anyway, the odds feel better this time than in BFA where we only had two possibilities, a Black Empire expansion or Shadowlands. Yes, we had that Awakenings leak, but nothing else regarding a world revamp, this time at least we're seeing new models for old buildings being datamined.

[EbaumsTipster]

What I would like to see is an expansion in Azeroth that leads to another in the Dragon Isles, but then we have all this "Lifelands" stuff being added to the game store...

Lifelands is more likely to be a patch in this expansion than its own expansion. We are having Elune revealed here for the first time despite her not being a death god, and it bookends the initial death theme of Shadowlands (and we’ve run out of important realms within the Shadowlands: even Zovaal left). Also life and death working together to beat Zovaal fits the tone of the theme.

Zero chance they would do two near-identical cosmic expansions back to back.

[Hitei]

we’ve run out of important realms within the Shadowlands: even Zovaal left).

Not sure why people assume the place that literally has death in its name, that is accessed by using the sigils of the various death pantheon eternal ones, and whose key location is a synonym for "grave" is somehow not a location within the plane of Death.

[EbaumsTipster]

Not sure why people assume the place that literally has death in its name, that is accessed by using the sigils of the various death pantheon eternal ones, and whose key location is a synonym for "grave" is somehow not a location within the plane of Death.

First One Death HQ does not have to equal Shadowlands. Azeroth is already implied to be A Zer(e)th and its in the middle of nowhere, not a magic plane.

Considering they said “hehe maybe we will see the titan afterlife ” Mortis may be death area of the Order realm, even.

[Therougetitan]

People still confuse expansions they want to happen with expansions that there are hints for happening. If Steve Danuser is dropping hints at cosmic expacs in lifelands or void or whatever going forward whether we like it or not that is probably what is happening.

[EbaumsTipster]

People still confuse expansions they want to happen with expansions that there are hints for happening. If Steve Danuser is dropping hints at cosmic expacs in lifelands or void or whatever going forward whether we like it or not that is probably what is happening.

Cosmic force buildup =/= Shadowlands 2, 3, 4 and 5 with different colors each time. Don’t let pessimism and butthurt cloud your vision.

There are multiple threads building up Light and Void and zero threads building up to us going to their lands. Demon expansion took place on Azeroth.

[Hitei]

First One Death HQ does not have to equal Shadowlands.

It doesn't have to be, but when everything about it is death, and its functions are related to the Shadowlands, and its keys are all in the Shadowlands, and the instructions on how to find it are in the Shadowlands and the guardians for it are in the Shadowlands... and it's supposedly extremely hidden and secret to the point that even the people who know the secrets are also hidden and secret, it's probably not casually sitting in the middle of the mortal plane and the location that literally every cosmic force in existence already knows about.

[Therougetitan]

Cosmic force buildup =/= Shadowlands 2, 3, 4 and 5 with different colors each time. Don’t let pessimism and butthurt cloud your vision.

There are multiple threads building up Light and Void and zero threads building up to us going to their lands. Demon expansion took place on Azeroth.

Cosmic expansions doesn't mean different colored shadowlands just because you are unable to expand your perspective. It can be literally any type of area with anything in it since they are not restricted to previous lore and can do whatever they want. Imagination is this limit with an overall different theme in mind which is no different than any other expansion since WoW has been created.

[Three Faced Goddess]

We’re only missing dragons as the major remaining “thing that needs an update “ and they are probably being bundled for another Dragon expansion (see: Cata 2). Besides Gnolls and Centaurs what old models are we really missing?

Quite a few actually. The lynxes in Quel'thalas, all the ancient saber and big cat models, skeletal/undead horses, undead birds, three eyed and crested basilisks, classic bats, normal owls, greater boars, felboars, etc. However, those you listed are some of the worst models remaining in game. Most racial mounts and older mounts could use an update as well.

[Hitei]

Quite a few actually. The lynxes in Quel'thalas, all the ancient saber and big cat models, skeletal/undead horses, undead birds, three eyed and crested basilisks, classic bats, normal owls, greater boars, felboars, etc. However, those you listed are some of the worst models remaining in game. Most racial mounts and older mounts could use an update as well.

Almost all of those are just slight modifications of existing updated models.

[ohwell]

Oh, sure, he did some bad stuff... but ultimately, he wasn't really doing a whole lot that was relevant to us. That was mostly Kael and some Vashj. Illidan just sat in his fortress in Shadowmoon and didn't do much of anything during our time in Outland.

So the question of "why did we kill him?" is perfectly valid. We had no actual reason to go after him.

Though i'm a little confused where you got this supposed confirmation that Illidan ordered the torture of the Netherdrakes. AFAIR, that was just the Dragonmaw acting on their own, and i can't seem to find any sources regarding your claim.

He LITERALLY appears at the end of the chain. You did next to no research. Illidan was most certainly the guiding force of the Dragonmaw there.

The Vashj and Kael stuff was retconned mostly in the book and a lot was originally Illidan ordering them etc. The book particularly changed the Shattrath siege to be Kael for example when originally it was Illidan who sent them.

Also a lot of SMV puts on full display why you kill him. He wasn't good from any manner of speaking and even the acts that he did claiming to be defending others from the Legion was really just him being scared shitless of KJ and needed to strike first.

[Three Faced Goddess]

They're still un-updated in game and should be replaced with the new ones. They're eyesores that shore the age of this game.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

He LITERALLY appears at the end of the chain. You did next to no research. Illidan was most certainly the guiding force of the Dragonmaw there.

The Vashj and Kael stuff was retconned mostly in the book and a lot was originally Illidan ordering them etc. The book particularly changed the Shattrath siege to be Kael for example when originally it was Illidan who sent them.

Also a lot of SMV puts on full display why you kill him. He wasn't good from any manner of speaking and even the acts that he did claiming to be defending others from the Legion was really just him being scared shitless of KJ and needed to strike first.

It was still weird and absurd going from a very anti hero to a villain(WCIII to WoW:BC)