Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Sondrelk]

At least the music in Nazjatat was a solid 10/10 though. That somber elven music you hear in the ruins just set the mod so damn well.

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If you think that was a missed opportunity just wait until we get to Ny'alotha, at least Nazjatar had its own zone

From what we saw in the raid I don't think really think I would have enjoyed a Ny'alotha zone. The skybox was cool and all, but giant empty warehouses in a lava pool wasn't nearly as intriguing as the scrapped Naxjatar concept where part of the zone was N'zoth himself.

[Zantera]

Where does this game have challenging mobs? They don't exist. Elite bosses and elites maybe, but even elites are fairly easy and soloable. So I would not worry about that at all, open world content in WoW hasn't been challenging in ages (not talking about the Maw because the zone was specifically designed for that).

"Buld & Customise your Airship" - hilarious.

It does have that up to the point where you outgear it ofc. I saw someone else mention the fact that if every zone scales, what's even the point of levels? I think there are both pros and cons to making every zone scale to your level, but I would love a world where more than 3% of the zones are relevant, and would love for EK and Kalimdor to get some use again.

[Varodoc]

At least the music in Nazjatat was a solid 10/10 though. That somber elven music you hear in the ruins just set the mod so damn well.

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From what we saw in the raid I don't think really think I would have enjoyed a Ny'alotha zone. The skybox was cool and all, but giant empty warehouses in a lava pool wasn't nearly as intriguing as the scrapped Naxjatar concept where part of the zone was N'zoth himself.

That's because Blizzard already decided it would just be a raid, that's why Ny'alotha consists of 2 pyramids and an endless desert of fire.

If you look at all the concepts of Ny'alotha pre-8.3, there are some mindblowing ones. Like an upside down cubic city with impossibly large obelisks and impossible geometry.

That Blizzard decided to take the laziest route doesn't mean Ny'alotha didn't have ton of potential.

[Sondrelk]

That's because Blizzard already decided it would just be a raid, that's why Ny'alotha consists of 2 pyramids and an endless desert of fire.

If you look at all the concepts of Ny'alotha pre-8.3, there are some mindblowing ones. Like an upside down cubic city with impossibly large obelisks and impossible geometry.

That Blizzard decided to take the laziest route doesn't mean Ny'alotha didn't have ton of potential.

I just doubt it would have been as interesting as it might have been pitched.
Remember that Nazjatar was pitched as far more vertical, with water colums and geysers that you could use to traverse to higher ledges and generally move around quickly.
In practice it ended up essentially being a more boring Vashj'ir where you were stuck to the floor.

Ny'alotha could have been great, but if the raid seems boring then why would the zone be any better?

[Varodoc]

I just doubt it would have been as interesting as it might have been pitched.
Remember that Nazjatar was pitched as far more vertical, with water colums and geysers that you could use to traverse to higher ledges and generally move around quickly.
In practice it ended up essentially being a more boring Vashj'ir where you were stuck to the floor.

Ny'alotha could have been great, but if the raid seems boring then why would the zone be any better?

Because if they made an actual zone they'd have to put more effort.

[micwini]

Man the icons look so good. Had me hooked until someone pointed out the typo

[therumblings]

Man the icons look so good. Had me hooked until someone pointed out the typo

It's hilarious to me that someone went through all the effort of making a fake leak look that good and then ruined it with a simple typo.

[huth]

Okay you're right about that: But Draenor is the exception that proves the rule: Chronicle vol 2 says, Despite Draenor not having a world soul, it had turbulent natural & elemental life: The Titans took interest in Draenor specifically because that's not supposed to happen.

Yes. They took interest in Draenor because Draenor was unusual. Not sure why you think that supports your claims.

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Man the icons look so good. Had me hooked until someone pointed out the typo

Even outside the typo, there's the weird phrasing of "return to a different world" (how are we returning if its different? Should be 'changed') and this absurd "Hero Stance" system (which neither sounds good nor tells you anything).

[Dracullus]

Doubt. Blizzconline 2022 has been cancelled. Very doubtful that 9.2 will come out in Spring 2022. Also doubt player controlled airships will work within the WoW engine.

Very doubtful 9.2 will come before June 23? This is "9.1 PTR will be August at the earliest" level.

Although you may be right it won't come during Spring cause it covers only last 2 resets of Q1. More likely it will be late Winter.

[draugril]

Even outside the typo, there's the weird phrasing of "return to a different world" (how are we returning if its different? Should be 'changed') and this absurd "Hero Stance" system (which neither sounds good nor tells you anything).

Not to mention that Blizzard would never do "Unified Factions." And, outside of a few misguided RPers, no one is asking for that anyway. That's just a misconception from people that don't really understand what people are asking for when they post about cross-faction grouping.

[huth]

Not to mention that Blizzard would never do "Unified Factions." And, outside of a few misguided RPers, no one is asking for that anyway. That's just a misconception from people that don't really understand what people are asking for when they post about cross-faction grouping.

Unifying doesn't seem realistic short-term anyway. Unless there's a major time-skip, i can't see that happening anytime soon.
Meanwhile, cross-grouping is probably unavoidable in the medium term if they don't want Alliance endgame to collapse.

[Fahrad Wagner]

No that always looked super fake.

That's just Atlantis, but Zin-Azshari/Nazjatar, while INSPIRED by Atlantis, aren't actually supposed to look like it. Nazjatar is supposed to be a sprawling Naga city (which to be fair you do see around the Eternal Palace, too bad you can't actually visit it, nice move as usual Blizzard ), not some derelict underwater ruins.

Buddy, this is a meme. On this thread at least.

Man the icons look so good. Had me hooked until someone pointed out the typo

I agree! It looks super nice

[TheFirstOnes]

Actually I think you just hit the nail on the head: The Titans (Order) & The Eternal Ones (Death) & Elune (Life) cares about the World Soul so they can let the World Souls grow into being that are like them. I was operating under the idea that the other forces want the World Souls for power & territory. But maybe that's how their made as well. Sargeras said corrupting the world soul would make Azeroth "Like him" in the Warlock Order Hall lore. So a Corrupted World soul becames a chaos or void aligned entity.

I can't imagine what kind of f'd up sh't it would take for a World Soul to turn into a Naaru

I mean, yeah. Every force wants Azeroth in some way, cause World Souls usually (When influenced by any power, really) can end up being very powerful (Look at Argus, for example), especially Azeroth (Who's said to already have the potential of being the most powerful Titan in the Cosmos). And even then, there's apparently more to Azeroth than we know, considering she houses very unique beings such as Sylvanas (The first Maw Walker), Anduin (The King that'll bring about the age of peace to the Factions and most likely the Cosmos itself), Thrall (The creator of the New Horde, and the one who defeated Deathwing), and the Player Characters (The Main Characters of Warcraft, the Champions of Azeroth, the TRUE Maw Walker (Shadowlands' Chosen One), etc.

Not to mention that most of the MAJOR battles happen on Azeroth namely. The Draenei, the Orc's arrival, the Lich King, the Legion's defeat, etc. All Azerothian factors. Imo, I think the First Ones built Azeroth to be much different compared to the others.

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No that always looked super fake.

That's just Atlantis, but Zin-Azshari/Nazjatar, while INSPIRED by Atlantis, aren't actually supposed to look like it. Nazjatar is supposed to be a sprawling Naga city (which to be fair you do see around the Eternal Palace, too bad you can't actually visit it, nice move as usual Blizzard ), not some derelict underwater ruins.

How could you fall for this? It's been years!!!

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Wow, the art quality of this leak is topping the charts, sadly the "Awakenings" logo looks truly bad. Other than that... hands down!

Literally, if it weren't for the fucking "awakenings" shit being fake asf, I'd believe it genuinely. That fanmade 9.2 Logo looks convincing as shit. Also "Trials of the First Ones"? FUCK YEAH!

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IF they ever do something like that, I really would want it to be akin to the Proving Grounds. Seriously...

[Sondrelk]

Yes. They took interest in Draenor because Draenor was unusual. Not sure why you think that supports your claims.

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Even outside the typo, there's the weird phrasing of "return to a different world" (how are we returning if its different? Should be 'changed') and this absurd "Hero Stance" system (which neither sounds good nor tells you anything).

What got me the most was teh "mechanic" class, which sounds like exactly the kind of thing someone would say just to put up a thin veil of not reaching for the easy Tinker class leak.
Everyone knows exactly what class you mean when you say Mechanic, just be honest and call it tinker.

[TheFirstOnes]

Yes. They took interest in Draenor because Draenor was unusual. Not sure why you think that supports your claims.

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Even outside the typo, there's the weird phrasing of "return to a different world" (how are we returning if its different? Should be 'changed') and this absurd "Hero Stance" system (which neither sounds good nor tells you anything).

It's not even that tbh. Aggramar himself saw that the Planet was full of imbalance, specifically on the Life side of things. It's why he forged the Grond to begin with.

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It still feels VERY weird to me that we fought and met the guy responsible for so much in the Cosmos, especially the ordering of Draenor, 4 YEARS AGO!!!

[EbaumsTipster]

What got me the most was teh "mechanic" class, which sounds like exactly the kind of thing someone would say just to put up a thin veil of not reaching for the easy Tinker class leak.
Everyone knows exactly what class you mean when you say Mechanic, just be honest and call it tinker.

If they put Tinker in they would ABSOLUTELY call it Mechanic, because that means more classes than Goblin and Gnome. There are many many WoW races with mechs and robots including both Horde elves and both Draenei.

[TheFirstOnes]

Hey, can anyone check to see if Blizzard accidently leaked 9.2 the same way they did 9.1?

[therumblings]

Hey, can anyone check to see if Blizzard accidently leaked 9.2 the same way they did 9.1?

Oh lol I forgot all about the 9.1 leaking, that was hilarious.

[Hyrja]

World of Warcraft: Awokenings

[EbaumsTipster]

I think if there is any new class it will be Bard or "Guy with a Robot" (not Tinker shut up) to add another "adventure fantasy" class and not an exaggerated hero class like Dragonfarter or Dark Ranger.