Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Hitei]

Well... Yeah I've no counter to that.

I enjoy Warcraft's story, but people who are pretending it was ever "good" or consistent are kidding themselves. It's like people constantly complaining about Sylvanas being a mustache-twisting villain, who also praise WotLK, the expansion where Arthas shows up every ten minutes to talk about how he's gonna let you get away this time, while you completely destroy his entire, continent-wide army of thousands and thousands so that he can.... raise 25 people?

None of the IP's storytelling has ever stood up to serious examination, it's just fun fantasy nonsense.

[Varodoc]

I enjoy Warcraft's story, but people who are pretending it was ever "good" or consistent are kidding themselves. It's like people constantly complaining about Sylvanas being a mustache-twisting villain, who also praise WotLK, the expansion where Arthas shows up every ten minutes to talk about how he's gonna let you get away this time, while you completely destroy his entire, continent-wide army of thousands and thousands so that he can.... raise 25 people?

None of the IP's storytelling has ever stood up to serious examination, it's just fun fantasy nonsense.

What if I told you that both Sylvanas and Arthas are dogshit villains, would I have permission to shit on Psychovanas then?

[KOUNTERPARTS]

I don’t think any of you guys actually know wtf the Devs are doing…

Why are y’all assuming production time and whatnots going to be different or the same?

Because that is what speculation and conjecture is. Quite literally the basis of this 572 page thread. Welcome.

[Hitei]

What if I told you that both Sylvanas and Arthas are dogshit villains, would I have permission to shit on Psychovanas then?

I wasn't denying Sylvanas' poor writing? I was pointing out that it's silly to whine about Sylvanas' writing as a "recent quality" issue, or somehow a product of Blizzard's writing getting worse. It was just always at that level.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Because that is what speculation and conjecture is. Quite literally the basis of this 572 page thread. Welcome.

Still not that great conjecture to be honest. Not the worst but not great either.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

https://twitter.com/JeffAHamilton/st...60251261210625

That's a wrap folks, see you in 11.0.

New system confirmed.

[Hitei]

New system confirmed.

Every expansion has new systems

[Azxza]

https://twitter.com/JeffAHamilton/st...60251261210625

That's a wrap folks, see you in 11.0.

you thought systemlands was bad? wait till you see 10.0

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

Well, I'm looking forward to Tier Sets 2.0 and Fractalforged Gear.

[Ersula]

He didn't even do that it was all saurfang and Baine who both came to there views on there own.

The most he did was let Saurfang out of a cell so some one who doesn't fail at every thing could take action.

The most Anduin did was get Saurfang to betray the Horde after Genn telling him they were 3 weeks from losing entirely: Honestly one of the most evil things I've seen in this game.

Fanmade, it lacks the unexpected twist factor. That being said I would not be half mad with that.

Yes, for the last FOUR expansions something that happens in the final act of the expansion directly leads to the premise of the next expansion. I think a crpg themed expansion with plenty of dragons is likely, but it has to have something related to the current expansion: For example, the Sepulcher has a magic button that can remake the world

[Dracullus]

Every expansion has new systems

Blizzard in SL missed opportunity to completely strip game from systems (since SL ones are meaningless anyway, you gain everything almost for free) and show people why they introduced them in the first place. It's like "meaningful gear", people focus on all cons from current designs, but forget that removing something has also it's own set of pros and cons.

[Ersula]

Every expansion has new systems

Except every "new system" introduced while Ion was in charge was just a rehash of Legion game systems, made more complicated & less fun. IE: Artifacts into Azerite Armor into Soulbinds. With Ion incharge I expect another skill tree called Brainbinding

They created Warfront & Island technology but then just didn't expand upon it. That didn't lead to anything. Torghast is so not innovative I don't think it can even count as a new system.

[Hitei]

Except every "new system" introduced while Ion was in charge was just a rehash of Legion game systems, made more complicated & less fun. IE: Artifacts into Azerite Armor into Soulbinds. With Ion incharge I expect another skill tree called Brainbinding

They created Warfront & Island technology but then just didn't expand upon it. That didn't lead to anything. Torghast is so not innovative I don't think it can even count as a new system.

Ion was assistant game director for Legion though. Also, lol:

"All the systems since Legion are just rehashing!"
"Also, don't count these major systems that weren't rehashing because I don't like them!"

[Nyel]

https://twitter.com/JeffAHamilton/st...60251261210625

That's a wrap folks, see you in 11.0.

What does this even mean

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

What does this even mean

It means we're getting new Systems for 9.2 and onwards. It's game over, folks. They cannot learn.

Nor can they stop Jeff Hamilton the menace from tweeting from his personal account and hinting even though he's under a strict NDA. Blizzard Corporate needs to revoke his access at this point, he's damaging the brand and product everytime he's allowed to have access to twitter.

[Ersula]

"All the systems since Legion are just rehashing!"
"Also, don't count these major systems that weren't rehashing because I don't like them!"

Combat Advancement & new game styles are two very different kinds of "systems" and even if they weren't rehashes they clearly abandoned them for Shadowlands.... but not the goddamn mission table, that has to be in every expansion for some reason.

[Makabreska]

It means we're getting new Systems for 9.2 and onwards. It's game over, folks. They cannot learn.

Nor can they stop Jeff Hamilton the menace from tweeting from his personal account and hinting even though he's under a strict NDA. Blizzard Corporate needs to revoke his access at this point, he's damaging the brand and product everytime he's allowed to have access to twitter.

Slightly paranoid you are.

[Fahrad Wagner]

What does this even mean

That we're likely getting another system in 10.0 I guess? Which was expected, I don't think this tweet was referring to 9.2. The question is, will it be nice and fun to play or will it be convoluted and boring?

[Nyel]

That we're likely getting another system in 10.0 I guess? Which was expected, I don't think this tweet was referring to 9.2. The question is, will it be nice and fun to play or will it be convoluted and boring?

Uhm… who’s surprised? I think a new system is a given. But as you said, the question is: is it good or is it another sh*tty iteration of artifact weapons. New systems per se are definitely good, it’s always about the implementation.

[Fahrad Wagner]

Uhm… who’s surprised? I think a new system is a given. But as you said, the question is: is it good or is it another sh*tty iteration of artifact weapons. New systems per se are definitely good, it’s always about the implementation.

My thoughts exactly! I wasn't too mad about artifact weapons, but I vividly hated HoA. And I don't like soulbinds either...