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    Quote Originally Posted by Zexaniro View Post
    what are the chances they also do a small tease for 10.0 by showing the logo or xpac name?
    Given that the announcement says that they will be talking about "the next Shadowlands content update" and the fact that announcing anything, even just the logo or name, for the next expansion would hurt the hype for 9.2, I'd say chances for any reveals regarding 10.0 are very small.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    You guys do realize Mortis doesn't have to mean anything Death related, yes? It is pretty neat, considering this is the Life/Death (Namely Death) Expansion...but like...

    I'm just gonna drop this here: https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Mortis

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    https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Mortis
    Mortis is Larin and means death.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExiHext View Post
    Or perhaps it means something completely different given that latin doesn't exist in warcraft. we just don't know. Could be latin, could be not.
    Blizzard are made of humans living on planet Earth. They used the latin word for Death in death themed expansion because it is the latin word of death.

    Things don't exist and much less are made in cultural vacuum.

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    I know that

    I’m saying it can also mean other things too

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    It's linked with the cycle, yes. But people are taking it too literal, as Mortis isn't just related to Life and Death.

    I did say Azeroth can still be connected with it, no?
    Yall called me dumb when I suggested the First Ones might have something to do with Azeroth a week ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post


    Yall called me dumb when I suggested the First Ones might have something to do with Azeroth a week ago
    I mean... doesn't the Primus say something (pretty much literally) like:

    "Death comes for the soul of your world" when the Jailor was on his way to the Sepulcher

    And it's not the only time when this has been mentioned.
    During Pre-patch, the Mawsworn said the same thing... but even more precise

    "Death comes for the soul of *this* world".

    Why would anyone call you "dumb" when it's as obvious as this.

  6. #12286
    Quote Originally Posted by EndofTime View Post
    • Zereth Mortis is not another plane or zone. It’s the innermost of Azeroth, her real heart. The heart chamber was just placed very far atop on what is hidden deep down.
    • The five Covenant sigils are needed to unlock Zereth Mortis where the Sepulcher lies. The Sepulcher is the real heart of Azeroth.
    • Zereth Mortis is a wordplay which translates to “mortal Azeroth”. As long as the sigils are not used, Azeroth cannot die.
    • Zovaal wants to kill Azeroth, which is an epitome of the “Realm of Life”. Everything thrives and blossoms on Azeroth. The Emerald Dream is just supporting this. Realm of Life is nothing else than Azeroth as it exists right now. It's not an own plane of existence like the Shadowlands.
    • Zovaal indeed was planning far along and make Sargeras stab the planet. Sargeras was never meant to kill Azeroth as that’s impossible until the five sigils unlock Zereth Mortis and the Sepulcher. As soon as he used all five sigils, Zovaal plans to ram down the Sword of Sargeras to kill Azeroth.
    • To use the Sigils Zovaal has to insert them into five titan facilities that are spread around Azeroth.
    • The heroes of Azeroth and the Covenants return to Azeroth. A necropolis will be the new main hub, similar to the Vindicaar from Legion.
    • The last sigil, the Arbiter's sigil, needs to be used at Icecrown Citadel. That's where the last titan facility is hidden.
    Somehow this leak doesn’t sound too bad anymore? I mean the runes fit the Titan analogy and Zovaal going to Azeroth makes sense… maybe the runes are Titan facilities and some of them have already been unlocked and discovered while the other 4 have not? And the three symbols down are maybe the most important ones? Maybe Titans and First Ones are much more related than we know yet?

    I find the name of the poster quite suspicious too, sounds like a proper expansion name. End of Time - could fit something related to Dragon Isles and the Infinite Dragonflights.
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    Quote Originally Posted by EndofTime View Post
    • Everything thrives and blossoms on Azeroth.
    Except you know all the desolate and desert areas that are on that planet

    The capital of the Horde is literally located in a shithole of a wasteland, which admittedly does fit the themes of the faction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ExiHext View Post
    Or perhaps it means something completely different given that latin doesn't exist in warcraft. we just don't know. Could be latin, could be not.
    Usually when you write fiction you don't go out of you way to look up latin or other old words and then use them in a completely wrong context.
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    Dead/Death = Mort, in french, so who knows

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    People are actually debating whether mortis = death?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Except you know all the desolate and desert areas that are on that planet

    The capital of the Horde is literally located in a shithole of a wasteland, which admittedly does fit the themes of the faction.
    That doesn't mean that the planet itself is full of life though, right? For sure there are desolate zones etc. because they've been plagued by the Scourge or the Burning Legion (Fel Magic). But Azeroth itself is full of life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zexaniro View Post
    what are the chances they also do a small tease for 10.0 by showing the logo or xpac name? it's safe to say they are already quite far into development so they would have something to tease, right. maybe more likely too bc no blizzcon next year
    Now they want people hype for 9.2, not 10.0. Only Blizzcon forces them to show something beyond (that would be too late to reveal year later) and even in that situations they make sure previous patch is already launched or at least on PTR.

    Now nothing bounds them, so don't expect 10.0 reveal before last (big) patch will launch and race to world first end. So around April if 9.2 is last tier or ~6 months later if there will be 9.3.

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    By the way, mortis doesn't mean death. The Latin word for death is mors. Mortis is an inflection of mors and means "of Death". Let's say Zereth means "Bringer". The correct translation for Zereth Mortis then would be: Bringer of Death. If Zereth means "lands", it would be "Lands of Death".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    Now they want people hype for 9.2, not 10.0. Only Blizzcon forces them to show something beyond (that would be too late to reveal year later) and even in that situations they make sure previous patch is already launched or at least on PTR.

    Now nothing bounds them, so don't expect 10.0 reveal before last (big) patch will launch and race to world first end. So around April if 9.2 is last tier or ~6 months later if there will be 9.3.
    If they announce 10.0 in April, what would be the release date? Mid-late (August) 2023? Can WoW go that long without a new expansion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    If they announce 10.0 in April, what would be the release date? Mid-late (August) 2023? Can WoW go that long without a new expansion?
    If we assume a PTR next week, and about 2-3 weeks if no progress being made on the PTR during the holidays, then conservatively we could expect 9.2 to release late February, early March.

    If we then assume a regular release cadence afterwards then 10.0 would release sometime November-ish 2022.

    Generally PTRs for major patches take 2-3 months depending on complexity and breaks. And the final patch of any given expansion can be expected to last at least 8-9 months before the pre-patch event begins.

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    Personally I am going to guess Blizzard will be aiming for a Q1-early Q2 2023 release. It's not massively behind what one would expect, and it gives the developers extra time to polish 10.0 if they need it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    If they announce 10.0 in April, what would be the release date? Mid-late (August) 2023? Can WoW go that long without a new expansion?
    I think BfA was announced on perfect date (just few weeks before last raid, but also BfA was rushed few weeks). So 8 months sounds good.

    WoW could survive 14 months drought -> 8 months of WoD -> 14 months drought. And you know what? I think it's main reason why Legion launch was so hyped and so loved despite that launch had 10x more issues than SL. People were HUNGRY for content.

    But we always need something to wait for, most dead periods in game are when content already released 1-2 months ago but there is no word about next chapter. In SL so far they did really bad job with that, cause we already had two dead periods (January-February, July-September) and even post 9.1 reveal we waited 2 more months for PTR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    That doesn't mean that the planet itself is full of life though, right? For sure there are desolate zones etc. because they've been plagued by the Scourge or the Burning Legion (Fel Magic). But Azeroth itself is full of life.
    Huh, No. Like in our irl Earth, some locations on Azeroth are genuinely wastelands. The Burning Legion and Scourge didn't turn Durotar into a shithole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    By the way, mortis doesn't mean death. The Latin word for death is mors. Mortis is an inflection of mors and means "of Death". Let's say Zereth means "Bringer". The correct translation for Zereth Mortis then would be: Bringer of Death. If Zereth means "lands", it would be "Lands of Death".
    We already know "zereth" means keystone from the shadowlands grimoire book no?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Huh, No. Like in our irl Earth, some locations on Azeroth are genuinely wastelands. The Burning Legion and Scourge didn't turn Durotar into a shithole.
    Uhm, Durotar isn't a shithole? A desert isn't a shithole? Arctica and Antarctica aren't shitholes? They're full of life, it's just different to a jungle or plains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hugnomo View Post
    We already know "zereth" means keystone from the shadowlands grimoire book no?
    I don't know. If it means Keystone, Zereth Mortis translates to "Keystone of Death".
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Uhm, Durotar isn't a shithole? A desert isn't a shithole? Arctica and Antarctica aren't shitholes? They're full of life, it's just different to a jungle or plains.

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    I don't know. If it means Keystone, Zereth Mortis translates to "Keystone of Death".
    Look I don't care if Durotar isn't a shithole for the bugs and worms living there, it's obviously a shithole for any remotely intelligent creature, which is why Garrosh started a whole war to get some food and water for his people.

    It's even Canonically stated that Thrall settled in Durotar because it's a shithole, and thereby a worthy punishment for his sinful people.

    If deserts are so full of life ask yourself why no one sane would live in the middle of the Sahara

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