Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Ersula]

Typical Blizzard missing the entire point of why tier set aesthetics were popular to begin with.

They specifically said the point of this tier was to make everything look as alien as possible

[The Stormbringer]

They just took the watchmaker deist concepts subscribed to the Titans already and renamed them. It being extended to the afterlife was already a good possibility bordering on certainty.

Oh no, I get that, and I find it really stupid that they're re-using the same thing again, but I just like the idea of it expanding to encompass the afterlife as well. We always thought the Shadowlands were a naturally occurring thing, but now we know for certain that they're artificial.

Don't get me wrong, I think Titans 2.0 is a stupid decision in general, I just like this one little piece they've done with it.

[Nyel]

Ok, we can finally end 9.3/no-9.3 talk.

Let's start discussion if 10.0 will launch for next Christmas or not. Deadline is around April, but very likely it was planned on Blizzconline.

10.0 will absolutely launch Q4 next year. Maybe even Q3, when they're fast.

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They specifically said the point of this tier was to make everything look as alien as possible

As similar as possible.

[The Stormbringer]

10.0 will absolutely launch Q4 next year. Maybe even Q3, when they're fast.

I bet you it'll be Q1 of 2023.

[Fahrad Wagner]

I posted this in another thread, but I'll post it here too and elaborate some:



Am I the only one who enjoys this idea? An ancient precursor race that literally has to build the universe and the afterlife?

I absolutely love it. And I wasn't expecting to be hyped about anything Comiscal or even Zereth Mortis.

I also really like the approach to the Tier sets, because they fit Zereth Mortis. They're not some randomly themed sets like we have been having prior to BfA. It's ok for sets to be random in certain raids or zones, and often they turn out amazing, but in a zone such as this, the realm of the First Ones... You can't expect a paladin set to look all light-infused and Stormwind themed, or for a Warlock set to have skulls and slime and demonic wings or whatever. No, it had to reflect the First Ones architecture and overall artstyle. Sleek, timeless, non-organic. And I think they have done an excellent job at that.

[Nyel]

I bet you it'll be Q1 of 2023.

THIS content patch lasting for 12 months? No way.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Oh no, I get that, and I find it really stupid that they're re-using the same thing again, but I just like the idea of it expanding to encompass the afterlife as well. We always thought the Shadowlands were a naturally occurring thing, but now we know for certain that they're artificial.

Don't get me wrong, I think Titans 2.0 is a stupid decision in general, I just like this one little piece they've done with it.

They take a lot of original ideas and twist them around, this is nothing new really. I mean the Pantheon is basically akin to Greek gods(Aman'thul is zeusesque).

The Titan keepers of Ulduar are very nordic. Its not that crazy of an idea.

[Tiradon]

Is someone else just whelmed? I mean it looks nice, but as the conclusion of Shadowlands? This is everything the MIGHTY Zovaal wanted?

Even if this was always planned this way, it’s pretty weak. And it gives me the feeling of being a rushed job although being already months too late. Not talking about art, that’s always been great. But content, story, features… it just lacks oomph.

Yeah but you know I didn't much tbh. Honestly I don't mind it because we got some other cool games to play throughout next year

[username993720]

The change of devs is really starting to show.
Excitement for snails, pets and dances for a main patch is really indicative. Not to mention the change in artstyle. Next thing we know, we'll be drowned with cute and fluffy content in WoW.

[Ersula]

"You can't forgive Sylvanas! Think of Teldrassil"

[Hitei]

The change of devs is really starting to show.
Excitement for snails, pets and dances for a main patch is really indicative. Not to mention the change in artstyle. Next thing we know, we'll be drowned with cute and fluffy content in WoW.

Ah, yes. What an exclusively current thing to happen.

[Valysar]

And obviously, one of the ugliest set class is DH, which is my main -_- (pala too)

[Black Rider]

PTR when now?

[Zantera]

I don't really get the negativity towards the tier sets, to me this feels in line with something like T12 (Firelands) where the sets have a shared theme with the raid/zone in question and they do different takes on that. Yeah I'm all for super unique looking tier sets and I can't wait to get some more colorful Monk sets but for this patch, for this raid, I don't see the big complaint about the 'unified' theme.

[Raetary]

We always thought the Shadowlands were a naturally occurring thing

We really didn't.
We knew the shadowlands were artificial since before launch.

[Ersula]

THIS content patch lasting for 12 months? No way.

Sylvanas becomes faction leader of the Forsaken Elf allied race in 9.2.3

Disregard Genocide; Acquire Allied Races

[NikolaiShade]

I absolutely love it. And I wasn't expecting to be hyped about anything Comiscal or even Zereth Mortis.

I also really like the approach to the Tier sets, because they fit Zereth Mortis. They're not some randomly themed sets like we have been having prior to BfA. It's ok for sets to be random in certain raids or zones, and often they turn out amazing, but in a zone such as this, the realm of the First Ones... You can't expect a paladin set to look all light-infused and Stormwind themed, or for a Warlock set to have skulls and slime and demonic wings or whatever. No, it had to reflect the First Ones architecture and overall artstyle. Sleek, timeless, non-organic. And I think they have done an excellent job at that.

Those sets are exactly what I would expect from a reimagining of the tier sets idea. Instead of throwing random sets in a raid they are adapting the aesthetics of the raid/zone to the tier sets keeping true the class designs (the monk set screams monk). As an example Ulduar warlock set: cool af but totally out of place

[TheFirstOnes]

"Don’t assume it’s just going to be one thing. There’s storylines building up for the next great book in the Warcraft saga. Some of that groundwork is laid here, but there’s a lot more back on Azeroth we need to get back to, and delve into some storylines and characters there.”

Okay, good. So, after the Life and Death plotline with Zovaal, the Covenants, etc, we'll go back to Azeroth and set up the next plotline (Which is most likely Light and Shadow). Apparently this zone is where the First Ones set up the Machine of Death, which implies Death in itself was made by them, and this realm was their hub of experimentation.

[Black Rider]

“Don’t assume it’s just going to be one thing. There’s storylines building up for the next great book in the Warcraft saga. Some of that groundwork is laid here, but there’s a lot more back on Azeroth we need to get back to, and delve into some storylines and characters there.”
WHOA
https://gamerant.com/world-of-warcra...-stories-fate/

[Makabreska]

Those "tier sets" look painfully uniform in their aesthetics. I would venture that only the Hunter and Monk sets come out on top as being slightly more distinctive than the rest. But the artistic decision clearly lies in the sets reflecting the theme of the zone, rather that evidencing class undertones.

That's what they have been doing since BfA.