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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    Maybe he's been the Arbiter this whole time but had his memory wiped? Idk would be dumb to ruin a great lgbt character like that.
    The arbiter was at least a construct at some point so it being Pelegos would be.................out of place and just makes me think of something I rather not think of.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    Maybe he's been the Arbiter this whole time but had his memory wiped? Idk would be dumb to ruin a great lgbt character like that.
    The whole arbiter thing is super weird when we saw the sigil of the arbiter was Zovaals all along, like the consttuct was put there at some point I would say.

    The question is realy, why was it put there? and do we realy need another?
    Looking at the crown it seems we do, but I hope they will explain what that sigil was all about, Zovaal became whole again and the arbiter literally dissolved afther losing it.

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    Maybe what we're looking at is an inverse Lich King situation. They need a host for the crown built with Zovaal's core or something, to act as the new arbiter body guiding souls and he volunteers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    The whole arbiter thing is super weird when we saw the sigil of the arbiter was Zovaals all along, like the consttuct was put there at some point I would say.

    The question is realy, why was it put there? and do we realy need another?
    Looking at the crown it seems we do, but I hope they will explain what that sigil was all about, Zovaal became whole again and the arbiter literally dissolved afther losing it.
    It needs to be there to guide the souls. We see what happens when there isn't one (what has been happening the entire expansion)--the souls just fall downwards into the Maw below. There has to be a thing that can god-view someone's life (lives?) in an instant and know exactly where they need to get sent to.

    Presumably we just need someone to hold onto that capability, like the Lich King held onto controlling the scourge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    Maybe what we're looking at is an inverse Lich King situation. They need a host for the crown built with Zovaal's core or something, to act as the new arbiter body guiding souls and he volunteers.


    It needs to be there to guide the souls. We see what happens when there isn't one (what has been happening the entire expansion)--the souls just fall downwards into the Maw below.
    But how did they go straight to the maw? and not just to the others? Wasn't Zovaal doing something or Sylvanas? both are gone at the end in terms of power so what then? is the maw still evil?

    I am questioning the need when the problems are gone and the sigil of the Arbiter was from Zovaal before..
    I am still thinking like.. why was Zovaal evil again?? oo right he tried to steal some secrets .. it's so vague.
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    looks like the shadowlands is run by synths, god this is stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    But how did they go straight to the maw? and not just to the others? Wasn't Zovaal doing something or Sylvanas? both are gone at the end in terms of power so what then? is the maw still evil?

    I am questioning the need when the problems are gone.
    Because the Maw happens to be the drain. Souls that have no place and cannot be redeemed or find purpose fall into it. You might be able to put something else in that spot with something like the First One's afterlives forge, but then you'd still just be funneling all souls into a single realm. The issue is less the Maw part and more that there needs to be something/someone that can evaluate everyone's entire life and know what the best place for them is.

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    Zovaal attunes the Machine of Origination, empowering 3 pylons to radiate cosmic energy. All players within $s1 yards of the pylons are afflicted with $@spellname360425.
    pretty subtle description there

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marlamin View Post
    pretty subtle description there
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    Why would the area the First Ones used to make afterlives have the key to altering all of reality?
    Sounds like it's something that'd be stored elsewhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    Because the Maw happens to be the drain. Souls that have no place and cannot be redeemed or find purpose fall into it. You might be able to put something else in that spot with something like the First One's afterlives forge, but then you'd still just be funneling all souls into a single realm. The issue is less the Maw part and more that there needs to be something/someone that can evaluate everyone's entire life and know what the best place for them is.
    Yea I figured, but I though there were some doings involved by the Jailer or Sylvanas, but I forgot about the whole red beam that hit the Arbiter.

    I just hope we will get an awnser why Zovaal Sigil was put into the Arbiter. My first thoughts are: Arbiter was made in Zereth mortis, looking at the disign. She got placed there when Zovaal betrayed the Pantheon and put his sigil into a construct to keep it alive and him lost from power.

    It still sounds stupid tho;p

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    I'm guessing those are the prototypes we'll be fighting in the raid

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    That snail mount is adorable and I need it now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    Yea I figured, but I though there were some doings involved by the Jailer or Sylvanas, but I forgot about the whole red beam that hit the Arbiter.

    I just hope we will get an awnser why Zovaal Sigil was put into the Arbiter. My first thoughts are: Arbiter was made in Zereth mortis, looking at the disign. She got placed there when Zovaal betrayed the Pantheon and put his sigil into a construct to keep it alive and him lost from power.

    It still sounds stupid tho;p
    It's the second one. The sigil is part of his core/soul/heart that was taken to build the arbiter to do his job after he was imprisoned.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    It's the second one. The sigil is part of his core/soul/heart that was taken to build the arbiter to do his job after he was imprisoned.
    I was just guessing tho

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    Denathrius sighted.

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    Half of these set bonuses don't do anything to change your rotation, that's pretty disappointing when they said they would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kiivar86 View Post
    Denathrius sighted.
    Just seen the proto so far, is there more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitemeridian View Post
    Half of these set bonuses don't do anything to change your rotation, that's pretty disappointing when they said they would.
    ...did they?

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    Quote Originally Posted by infinitemeridian View Post
    Half of these set bonuses don't do anything to change your rotation, that's pretty disappointing when they said they would.
    Not seeing anything on the 9.2 announcement about it. It says it had bonuses that would complement our abilities.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alanar View Post
    Just seen the proto so far, is there more?
    My apologies, it was the proto after all, just the running animation hid the orb thing in his gut.

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