Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Soon-TM]

"This is fun."
"This is not fun."

These are both subjective "ideological" examples of feedback. And they are the two most important pieces of feedback to which a video game entertainment developer should be listening. Neither can be determined by data or metrics.

I'm sure that warfronts in BfA had really high engagement numbers, especially at the beginning of the patch, when they dropped free HC raid ilvl gear. They were so "successful" that at least one was cut off already during BfA, and they were completely removed in SL (i.e. no similar feature but adapted to the SL story, unlike e.g. Visions -> Torghast).

[Aeluron Lightsong]

I don't think you got Anduin correct. The whole rope-thing only applies once they die and go to the Shadowlands as souls. Anduin, to the best of our knowledge, hasn't done that yet, and neither has Sylvanas (well, technically she has but was then de-roped and kicked back).

I think he's obessing over the rope comment or just completely misrepresenting it.

[Nerovar]

Which one of those ropes can I hang myself with

Actual god tier response.

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

Which one of those ropes can I hang myself with

Fuck, that's sig worthy.

[huth]

Which one of those ropes can I hang myself with

Please only use your own soul rope, otherwise there's a Hell of Paperwork waiting for you.

[Ersula]

How does any of this makes any sense to you?

Hey I'm just trying to collaborate the original rules of this universe with Dansuer's retconning. He's making it sound like the mortal planes have timelines, but the Shadowlands don't. So if the Garrosh we knew is only the worst version of him, why does he get the worst possible punishment? And then annihilation? And why is this universe *designed* in such way that Varian got the same treatment?

Wow it's almost like Sylvanas was right & the rules of this universe are bullshit

Dansuer in the same interview is explaining permadeath & infinite timelines. Apparently your soul getting destroyed isn't "real stakes" actually because theres infinite timelines where hes still alive.

[Chickat]

Maybe au copies of the same person are rare and only manifest with meddling in the timeways? Would make a little more sense. I know there is the whole line about garrosh being the worst in our time, but it would be easier to retcon that than try to make sense of how the shadowlands works.

[Kereberus]

Okay so where are the leaks about Allied Races. I know you guys have them hidden

[Ersula]

Okay so where are the leaks about Allied Races. I know you guys have them hidden

Tired 9.2.3 allied races: Necrolord, Venthyr, Sylvan & Kyrian

Wired 9.2.3 allied races: Forsaken elves, Venthyr & Automa

People are asking for allied races but Venthyr are far more popular than the other 3. And it makes more sense if the Venthyr alone follow Denathrius lead & leave the shadowlands to explore the universe, instead of all the Shadowlands races. Forsaken Elves already have an intro cutscene & they made Automa that specifically use the human rigging despite having several humanoid varieties of Automa already.

Alliance: Forsaken Elf (Night Elf variation) & Automa (Human variation)

Horde: Venthyr (Nightborne variation) & Forsaken Elf (blood elf variation)

[Zers Editor]

So, here's one of the scripts found:

10_ZM_Saezurah_Awakens_STM
The first numbers qualify for the expansion number.

Any guesses?

[Nyel]

So, here's one of the scripts found:

10_ZM_Saezurah_Awakens_STM
The first numbers qualify for the expansion number.

Any guesses?

Saezurah is Azshara after her identity change. And she finally awakens!

Guess ZM stands for Zereth Mortis? Why would it be something related to the next expansion?

[Chickat]

WOuld the 10 really be related to next xpac?

[Zers Editor]

Judging by the other scripts, yes.

[UndedoKoleda]

I don't think you got Anduin correct. The whole rope-thing only applies once they die and go to the Shadowlands as souls. Anduin, to the best of our knowledge, hasn't done that yet, and neither has Sylvanas (well, technically she has but was then de-roped and kicked back).

You're right. But if an Anduin dies or died somewhere, wouldn't that mean we'll have another Anduin besides ours in the Shadowlands? Same with Sylvanas and every not-yet-dead being that is currently in Shadowlands?

[Cosmic Janitor]

You're right. But if an Anduin dies or died somewhere, wouldn't that mean we'll have another Anduin besides ours in the Shadowlands? Same with Sylvanas and every not-yet-dead being that is currently in Shadowlands?

I mean let's be real here, it's probably best to ignore whatever Danuser says and just go with headcanon, even if it's Ersula's. Way less of a headache, since what he claims to be the case and what the WoW team ends up implementing tend to be not the same..

[Luck4]

So, here's one of the scripts found:

10_ZM_Saezurah_Awakens_STM
The first numbers qualify for the expansion number.

Any guesses?

WoW Chakra also found a couple of abilitiees.

10_ZM_Saezurah_Awakens_STM
10.0 ZM – Ch 4 – Wild Energy – Ball 01 – (STM)
10.0 ZM – Ch 4 – Wild Energy – Ball 02 – (STM)

I bet it's from a Troll raid/dungeon in Azeroth after the Revamp. ZM = Zul'Mashar

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Zul%27Mashar
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Mossflayer_tribe

Northern Eastern Kingdoms, more precisely Eastern Plaguelands.



Eastern Kingdoms revamp confirmed. Possible Dragon Isles related too. Quel'thalas revamp?

[Myrrh]

Saezurah is this thing. Seems to be one of the Progenitor Oracle-y things that pops up a few times in Zereth Mortis, as there are a few different mob IDs.

Probably wouldn't read too much into that particular script.

It has a cute little pet though.

[Luck4]

Saezurah is this thing. Seems to be one of the Progenitor Oracle-y things that pops up a few times in Zereth Mortis, as there are a few different mob IDs.

Probably wouldn't read too much into that particular script.

It has a cute little pet though.

My life is ruined...

[Marlamin]

So, here's one of the scripts found:

10_ZM_Saezurah_Awakens_STM
The first numbers qualify for the expansion number.

Any guesses?

Likely mistagged as 10.0, happens sometimes.

[huth]

You're right. But if an Anduin dies or died somewhere, wouldn't that mean we'll have another Anduin besides ours in the Shadowlands? Same with Sylvanas and every not-yet-dead being that is currently in Shadowlands?

That's where the Shadowlands' size comes in. They're infinite in scope, so it's perfectly valid to say that we simply never encounter him. He might not even have ended up in one of the main Covenants, or maybe he's one of the smurfs already (although IMO he doesn't fit there... he may be a goody two-shoes, but he doesn't really embody their self-sacrifice values).

I mean let's be real here, it's probably best to ignore whatever Danuser says and just go with headcanon, even if it's Ersula's. Way less of a headache, since what he claims to be the case and what the WoW team ends up implementing tend to be not the same..

Nah, there's no problem to begin with, even though the whole rope thing was completely unnecessary.

WoW Chakra also found a couple of abilitiees.


I bet it's from a Troll raid/dungeon in Azeroth after the Revamp. ZM = Zul'Mashar

That strikes me as very far reaching, especially since the place was incredibly minor, and, if i recall, pretty much dead after we went through.