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    Quote Originally Posted by Teriz View Post
    I always wanted that sword for my frost DK. Damn waste....
    DKs have been blueballed 2 times already. Pain.

  2. #14222
    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Ranged mail user, because every class added post-launch was a god-damn melee.
    Which makes Tinkers with those cool Azerite cannons quite likely. Plus, they can easily have a healing spec, too. Just makes a lot of sense.
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    This is the weirdest patch where I feel excited but my body is in permanent violent recoil mode as I just feel the Beaming Zovaal Ending happening. There's just too much pointing at it and all the cool stuff is just noise trying to entrap you in another dark hole where your resentment for the narrative team evolves further.

    What an insane situation that has been established by the Narrative Team and the Game Director.

    So much good stuff pointing at interesting stuff and yet I just can't worry that the climax is the "You are heroes that are using this game as escapism so here's your happy dose of happiness where you win against the unstoppable bad guy".

    Quote Originally Posted by Nyel View Post
    Which makes Tinkers with those cool Azerite cannons quite likely. Plus, they can easily have a healing spec, too. Just makes a lot of sense.
    Tinkers are the best and are always going to be my pick for a new class, no question asked. There's just so much possibility on what it could be.
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    If you guys aren't careful with all of this complaining about the lore, Danuser might stumble across this thread and decide to make it worse:



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    Quote Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS View Post
    If you guys aren't careful with all of this complaining about the lore, Danuser might stumble across this thread and decide to make it worse:


    Whats been done is already set in stone me thinks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS View Post
    If you guys aren't careful with all of this complaining about the lore, Danuser might stumble across this thread and decide to make it
    9.2 story and SL ending have been designed and approved long time ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS View Post
    If you guys aren't careful with all of this complaining about the lore, Danuser might stumble across this thread and decide to make it worse:
    Worse... like this?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Relapses View Post
    Worse... like this?


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    Eh could be worse. Could have said Azeroth at the top of that.
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  10. #14230
    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Eh could be worse. Could have said Azeroth at the top of that.
    Tell me that Sylvanas is not functionally Azeroth at this point, anyways.

  11. #14231
    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    The easy answer to that is "retcon". They didn't decide "lol actually there's a SUPER SECRIT DEATH PLANE WE DON'T KNOW ABOUT!!!", the Shadowlands is clarified pretty clearly as the Plane of Death. The reason it's separate is because they didn't think this through yet when they wrote Chronicles and they probably came up with the whole plot for Shadowlands as it is now during Legion or even BFA.
    Yes, only because its the plane where dead people go.

    What's wrong is to infer by that there is a "Light" "Void" "Order" or "Chaos" plane. Because if there is, that means Shadowlands & the Death Plane are NOT the same place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    This is the weirdest patch where I feel excited but my body is in permanent violent recoil mode as I just feel the Beaming Zovaal Ending happening. There's just too much pointing at it and all the cool stuff is just noise trying to entrap you in another dark hole where your resentment for the narrative team evolves further.

    What an insane situation that has been established by the Narrative Team and the Game Director.

    So much good stuff pointing at interesting stuff and yet I just can't worry that the climax is the "You are heroes that are using this game as escapism so here's your happy dose of happiness where you win against the unstoppable bad guy".



    Tinkers are the best and are always going to be my pick for a new class, no question asked. There's just so much possibility on what it could be.
    Well, here's a question along these lines, then!—what kind of beamy thing will we do? Surely, they won't have us just do another beam. They need to do some other rule of cool thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Yes, only because its the plane where dead people go.

    What's wrong is to infer by that there is a "Light" "Void" "Order" or "Chaos" plane. Because if there is, that means Shadowlands & the Death Plane are NOT the same place.
    See:

    The Light itself

    The Void itself

    [TBA, hinted at as "Titan Planet"]

    Twisting Nether

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    Tell me that Sylvanas is not functionally Azeroth at this point, anyways.
    You guys got to pay closer attention to where the poster said that pic is fake, several times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    The Light itself

    The Void itself

    [TBA, hinted at as "Titan Planet"]

    Twisting Nether
    Those aren't planes. A planet is not a plane. A consciousness is not a plane. And the idea that Titans are birthed from planets then live on top of them is just absurd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    Tell me that Sylvanas is not functionally Azeroth at this point, anyways.
    She's not yet, and hopefully yet isn't 9.2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KOUNTERPARTS View Post
    If you guys aren't careful with all of this complaining about the lore, Danuser might stumble across this thread and decide to make it worse:


    Fan made. Sylvanas is nowhere in the Zovaal fight, in regards to abilities. Regardless, we'll be able to realize if Sylvanas is actually in the fight or not. Seems as tho Blizzard just wants Zovaal to fall to the Heroes of Azeroth, with Sylvanas being the new Jailer or so.

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    Sylvanas' arc has like no real connection to Azeroth, whatsoever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    You guys got to pay closer attention to where the poster said that pic is fake, several times.

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    Those aren't planes. A planet is not a plane. A consciousness is not a plane. And the idea that Titans are birthed from planets then live on top of them is just absurd.
    You're misunderstanding what I'm saying. I'm quoting an interview where they used the nickname "titan planet" for wherever Titans go when they die. Logically, given things tend to return to their space of quality in WoW, they therefore go to a Plane of Order if they don't go to the Shadowlands and there's a particular place for them elsewhere. The Light and Void themselves are both entered physically in WoW–Natalie Seline was in the Void, and we see people go to the Light, as well.

    Also, I'm aware the picture is fake. I'm making a sarcastic comment about how the plot orbits around her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    Fan made. Sylvanas is nowhere in the Zovaal fight, in regards to abilities. Regardless, we'll be able to realize if Sylvanas is actually in the fight or not. Seems as tho Blizzard just wants Zovaal to fall to the Heroes of Azeroth, with Sylvanas being the new Jailer or so.

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    Sylvanas' arc has like no real connection to Azeroth, whatsoever.
    That's what he's saying. It's fanmade, he's implying that Danuser would make it canon. It's sarcasm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    She's not yet, and hopefully yet isn't 9.2.
    Listen, the whole plot revolves around her. She may well be inside of Azeroth letting it physically contain her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Those aren't planes. A planet is not a plane. A consciousness is not a plane. And the idea that Titans are birthed from planets then live on top of them is just absurd.
    The Twisting Nether most definitely is. We also have the Gardens of Life being mentioned. Travel into and through the Void is a regular occurence. At this point, we're only missing Order and Light.

  18. #14238
    Quote Originally Posted by huth View Post
    The Twisting Nether most definitely is. We also have the Gardens of Life being mentioned. Travel into and through the Void is a regular occurence. At this point, we're only missing Order and Light.
    I think what's trying to be communicated is that the "real" Plane of Death is akin to the Gardens of Life, whilst the Shadowlands orbit Azeroth and are like the Emerald Dream of the Death Plane in a way akin to how the Gardens and Emerald Dream are related. However, this is entirely nonsense because non-Azerothians and even other timelines go to the Shadowlands. We also know that the Shadowlands are seemingly "recognized" and challenged by the other Cosmic Forces in a direct way. If there's an Emerald Dream analogue that is the imprinting of that plane upon a physical realm, it's obviously the Veil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    You guys got to pay closer attention to where the poster said that pic is fake, several times.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheFirstOnes View Post
    Fan made. Sylvanas is nowhere in the Zovaal fight, in regards to abilities. Regardless, we'll be able to realize if Sylvanas is actually in the fight or not. Seems as tho Blizzard just wants Zovaal to fall to the Heroes of Azeroth, with Sylvanas being the new Jailer or so.

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    Sylvanas' arc has like no real connection to Azeroth, whatsoever.

    Almost as if we are joking... so no shit my dudes, thanks for keeping up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Le Conceptuel View Post
    I think what's trying to be communicated is that the "real" Plane of Death is akin to the Gardens of Life, whilst the Shadowlands orbit Azeroth and are like the Emerald Dream of the Death Plane in a way akin to how the Gardens and Emerald Dream are related. However, this is entirely nonsense because non-Azerothians and even other timelines go to the Shadowlands. We also know that the Shadowlands are seemingly "recognized" and challenged by the other Cosmic Forces in a direct way. If there's an Emerald Dream analogue that is the imprinting of that plane upon a physical realm, it's obviously the Veil.
    I think it's a misreading of the Chronicles graphic, interpreting things into it that aren't actually stated. In particular, putting far to much weight on anything not being shown, when that doesn't actually mean anything other than the Chronicles not covering it. It's not like they went into any kind of detail on the Shadowlands.

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