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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    We all know the only reason you say that is because Turalion brings Alleria.
    Cause well Varodoc doesn't speak for Stormwind and most Stormwindians care.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alga View Post
    Cause working with turds like ye is just exhausting for a free time passion, which is simply not worth the time and a real good way to release it straight back how far from reality people can be at this place, while its all about a game with fictional stuff. But no worry, gonna URL block MMOC after giving you a final fuck you, cunt.
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  3. #14523
    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    Why should the people of Stormwind want Anduin back?
    The question is more about what the fans want. Danuser himself recently said that Anduin is a character beloved by many fans. So I think they all want him back on the throne. On the other hand, Turalyon is "literally who" for many players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaumanKing View Post
    The question is more about what the fans want. Danuser himself recently said that Anduin is a character beloved by many fans. So I think they all want him back on the throne. On the other hand, Turalyon is "literally who" for many players.
    Well, that's when you turn around on them and subvert their expectations.

    Right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BaumanKing View Post
    The question is more about what the fans want. Danuser himself recently said that Anduin is a character beloved by many fans. So I think they all want him back on the throne. On the other hand, Turalyon is "literally who" for many players.
    A character who has appeared since Classic is more popular than character who has appeared since the end of Legion.

    I know, I'm as shocked as you are

    These newly-reintroduced characters will never be "popular" if Blizzard doesn't move on from these WC3 characters (Anduin is essentially as much of a writer's pet as the WC3 characters like Thrall, Jaina, Suevanas).

    That being said, Turalyon fits the "Human Templar*" archetype more than Anduin does, and that's a very popular archetype in any fantasy game.

    *Note that by Templar I don't mean "Light Nazi", I just mean a lawful defender of the Faith

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    Quote Originally Posted by BaumanKing View Post
    On the other hand, Turalyon is "literally who" for many players.
    "Turalyon? Oh you mean that generic "Praise the light" paladin guy?"
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    Well, it's funny you say that since all the reintroduced WC3 characters are all seemingly on the trajectory of being murdered so that there are no characters left. Which I don't know what Danusers' grand plan will be then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    Well, it's funny you say that since all the reintroduced WC3 characters are all seemingly on the trajectory of being murdered so that there are no characters left. Which I don't know what Danusers' grand plan will be then.
    Dunno, you missed all those reset speculations followed by "ending of first WoW chapter"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    Well, it's funny you say that since all the reintroduced WC3 characters are all seemingly on the trajectory of being murdered so that there are no characters left. Which I don't know what Danusers' grand plan will be then.
    Unless they really want to get rid of Metzen, I don't think anyone is coming for Thrall right now, neither Bane, who is pretty much the sole moral center of the Horde and Jaina is a fan favorite on the level of Sylvanas. Anduin will also stick around for a long while, and they even made Tyrande mellow again so she can stay. The only one that will get written into a little pause is Sylvanas here tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    Well, it's funny you say that since all the reintroduced WC3 characters are all seemingly on the trajectory of being murdered so that there are no characters left. Which I don't know what Danusers' grand plan will be then.
    You're kidding right?

    They literally put Thrall, Jaina in the Sanctum of Domination raid even though they had no business being there and didn't say literally anything at all. When they could have easily been replaced by Alleria and Vereesa.

    But since Alleria and Vereesa don't have 17 years of story development, Blizzard ignores them completely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Dunno, you missed all those reset speculations followed by "ending of first WoW chapter"?
    I mean, the Story Campaign Epilogue seems to be set after Zovaals' Cinematic. Unless this is what Ion meant with Shadowlands time moves weirdly and it does not change if Zovaal wins or Zovaal is defeated but still wins in a capacity where a "reset" occurs.

    Otherwise, we're heading for a "Beam" ending and 2 years of wasted narrative where the Narrative Director spent most of the time sticking their tongue out and going "NA NA NA, you can't figure out shit" only to again just put so many puzzleboxes into the game without any payoff and again to do the exact same ending as they did with N'zoth.

    It's absurd, this whole situation is absurd. They literally decided to bait all lore theorycrafters on a wild goose chase only to have the Epilogue Scene leak which tells us that everything returns back to normal. What the fuck was the point of Shadowlands? WHEN THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF THIS RIDICULOUS EXPANSION WAS FOR IT TO SET UP FOR THE RESET WHICH WAS JUST THROWN AWAY THE SAME WAY N'ZOTHS INITIAL DATAMINE OF HIM CONSUMING THE WORLD SOUL WAS IN 8.2.

    Heart of Eternity, Heart of Azeroth, Machine of Origination all of this nonsensical buildup and then have it all leaked to be for naught with a fucking Scene leak. What an insane Narrative Team. Genuinely.

    2 Whole years wasted on this.
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  12. #14532
    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    Well, that's when you turn around on them and subvert their expectations.

    Right?
    • I think a lot of people would agree Anduin would be more interesting as a character if he weren't a king.
    • Why do they always insist on making Tyrande standard night elf size? Jaina gets to be 10 feet tall but Tyrande is tiny?
    • the arbiter wouldn't judge Sylvanas. She isnt dead yet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    You're kidding right?

    They literally put Thrall, Jaina in the Sanctum of Domination raid even though they had no business being there and didn't say literally anything at all. When they could have easily been replaced by Alleria and Vereesa.

    But since Alleria and Vereesa don't have 17 years of story development, Blizzard ignores them completely.
    Sylvanas' sisters didnt go to the Shadowlands. And Jaina & Thrall were there to rescue Anduin.

  13. #14533
    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    I mean, the Story Campaign Epilogue seems to be set after Zovaals' Cinematic. Unless this is what Ion meant with Shadowlands time moves weirdly and it does not change if Zovaal wins or Zovaal is defeated but still wins in a capacity where a "reset" occurs.

    Otherwise, we're heading for a "Beam" ending and 2 years of wasted narrative where the Narrative Director spent most of the time sticking their tongue out and going "NA NA NA, you can't figure out shit" only to again just put so many puzzleboxes into the game without any payoff and again to do the exact same ending as they did with N'zoth.

    It's absurd, this whole situation is absurd. They literally decided to bait all lore theorycrafters on a wild goose chase only to have the Epilogue Scene leak which tells us that everything returns back to normal. What the fuck was the point of Shadowlands? WHEN THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF THIS RIDICULOUS EXPANSION WAS FOR IT TO SET UP FOR THE RESET WHICH WAS JUST THROWN AWAY THE SAME WAY N'ZOTHS INITIAL DATAMINE OF HIM CONSUMING THE WORLD SOUL WAS IN 8.2.

    Heart of Eternity, Heart of Azeroth, Machine of Origination all of this nonsensical buildup and then have it all leaked to be for naught with a fucking Scene leak. What an insane Narrative Team. Genuinely.

    2 Whole years wasted on this.
    What Zovaal cinematic? The one where he turns off the Forge?

    What epilogue leak?

    What N'zoth leak?

    Are you just making stuff up at this point to be upset over it or what?

  14. #14534
    Quote Originally Posted by Felis igneus View Post
    Unless they really want to get rid of Metzen, I don't think anyone is coming for Thrall right now, neither Bane, who is pretty much the sole moral center of the Horde and Jaina is a fan favorite on the level of Sylvanas. Anduin will also stick around for a long while, and they even made Tyrande mellow again so she can stay. The only one that will get written into a little pause is Sylvanas here tbh.
    Metzen hasn't voiced Thrall in years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    You're kidding right?

    They literally put Thrall, Jaina in the Sanctum of Domination raid even though they had no business being there and didn't say literally anything at all. When they could have easily been replaced by Alleria and Vereesa.

    But since Alleria and Vereesa don't have 17 years of story development, Blizzard ignores them completely.
    It's because people don't care about Alleria and especially not Vereesa, while people have been begging for Thrall for ages and Jaina is usually well-liked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Metzen hasn't voiced Thrall in years.
    What? Of course Shadowlands and BFA Thrall is Metzen. Just because he quit Blizzard doesn't mean he isn't voicing Thrall anymore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    You're kidding right?

    They literally put Thrall, Jaina in the Sanctum of Domination raid even though they had no business being there and didn't say literally anything at all. When they could have easily been replaced by Alleria and Vereesa.

    But since Alleria and Vereesa don't have 17 years of story development, Blizzard ignores them completely.
    Jaina and Thrall had been in Torghast/the Maw before and were instrumental in bridging gaps for the Sylvanas fight.
    Also they did speak. Literally said words.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Villager720 View Post
    Jaina and Thrall had been in Torghast/the Maw before and were instrumental in bridging gaps for the Sylvanas fight.
    Also they did speak. Literally said words.
    And Jaina also had plenty of words with Uther as well, Thrall also spoke with Draka(his mother). So yeah they aren't just invisible either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Metzen hasn't voiced Thrall in years.
    Metzen has always voiced Thrall and said he would continue to do so.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Foreign Exchange Ztudent View Post
    It's absurd, this whole situation is absurd. They literally decided to bait all lore theorycrafters on a wild goose chase only to have the Epilogue Scene leak which tells us that everything returns back to normal. What the fuck was the point of Shadowlands? WHEN THE ENTIRE PURPOSE OF THIS RIDICULOUS EXPANSION WAS FOR IT TO SET UP FOR THE RESET WHICH WAS JUST THROWN AWAY THE SAME WAY N'ZOTHS INITIAL DATAMINE OF HIM CONSUMING THE WORLD SOUL WAS IN 8.2.
    What reset thrown away in SL? What are you even ranting about?
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  20. #14540
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Metzen hasn't voiced Thrall in years.
    I'm fairly certain he never stopped, which is part of why he was written out of the story for a while, as he continued to sort out his life after he retired from Blizzard. Afaik when they reintroduced him, they still had Metzen voice him. In fact https://m.imdb.com/title/tt13286218/...?ref_=tt_cl_sm clearly lists him for Thrall and Hakkar.
    You are welcome, Metzen. I hope you won't fuck up my underground expansion idea.

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