Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[draugril]

This is outright awful. I don't judge people who like it though.

I do.

More befitting a fishing rod than it is a god’s weapon.

[Sondrelk]

I do.

More befitting a fishing rod than it is a god’s weapon.

As we can see, Zovaal understands the importance of not just buying the fish he needs for his consumables on the AH all the time.

[ExiHext]

I do.

More befitting a fishing rod than it is a god’s weapon.

This is outright awful. I don't judge people who like it though.

Why do those statements not surprise me in the slightest...ah, right, haters gonna hate. I wonder when you guys will move on with your lives.

[huth]

Great. We're gonna have to fight Zovaal Belmont from the Lords of Shadow timeline.

Still, that looks like the animations aren't playing properly. Too fast, missing frames.

[UndedoKoleda]

It actually makes sense for the guy whose gimmick is chains and domination to have an ability or attack using said chains.

[Raetary]

It actually makes sense for the guy whose gimmick is chains and domination to have an ability or attack using said chains.

Sure, but i think most people expected something to Sylvanas' powers, where she waves her hands and chains appear.

Not a magic flail with questionable design.

[GR8GODZILLAGOD]

Zovaal's mace animation.

Lol, I actually kind of love it.
Make it a weapon drop and have the flair come out when you swing it.

[Makorus]

Sure, but i think most people expected something to Sylvanas' powers, where she waves her hands and chains appear.

Not a magic flail with questionable design.

And that is mutually exclusive how lmao? My god, people act like the flail is the only thing he has.

[Hugnomo]

This is both hideous and awesome at the same time. I hate it. I love it.

Woah I think it's really cool I love it.

[crusadernero]

Woah I think it's really cool I love it.

Make it a item that drops, then we are talking! Id do the raid every week to the ends of the earth.

[Nyel]

And that is mutually exclusive how lmao? My god, people act like the flail is the only thing he has.

No, he does fall like a toddler as well. No idea how anyone can take this guy serious, he's a walking Rugrat at this point. His motivations are the same as theirs.

[ExiHext]

No, he does fall like a toddler as well. No idea how anyone can take this guy serious, he's a walking Rugrat at this point. His motivations are the same as theirs.

Oh my god, WoW has subpar animations!!111
More news at 10.

Man, this constant bitching without seeing the whole picture...

[Aeluron Lightsong]

He falls like his armor is heavy as fuck but even then we didn't see Sylvanas "fall" until like the end of the cinematic for her. People trying to reach harder then Reed Richard.

[bullseyed]

A lot of mixed messages lately. Biggest expansion ever which has been worked on since BFA 9.0 versus Maintenance Mode $40 DLC packs for each Season no more Expansions.

Every expansion starts dev before the previous one is released. Shadowlands began before BFA launched.

The story / theme / direction begins even farther back. The Shadowlands story arc was already sketched out before Legion launched.

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People keep saying this but she never confronted Arthas after she *supposedly* regained control during the Third War: Arthas was in Icecrown & Sylvanas was still in the Eastern Kingdoms. She's clearly talking about the arrow she fired in the Sanctum of Domination. She never fired an arrow at Arthas. The WoWhead article even says its unclear who she's talking about but it's likely the Jailer.

Imagine being dumb enough to believe wowhead content. Wow.

[Makabreska]

No, he does fall like a toddler as well. No idea how anyone can take this guy serious, he's a walking Rugrat at this point. His motivations are the same as theirs.

So you are actually sure this is a finished animation we will see in-game when we bring him to 0%, instead of death cinematic we usually get? Because you seem to be overreacting hard and just wanting to shit on the guy on every occasion.

[bullseyed]

On another note, I was just looking over the encounter journal and I'm a bit worried. I recall it originally being assumed that Arthas wouldn't be in the expansion at all, though the quote was more along the lines of "we're not going to put him in without respecting his story" or something. The encounter journal is implying Arthas might appear... as just some generic raid mechanic that's holding Anduin back. That feels like the exact situation they didn't want to do. It's worse than not including him at all, in my opinion.

Have you done the Kyrian campaign? The one about manifesting and defeating manifestations of doubt as a means to achieving power?

If you do the whole campaign/shadowland story you find that the Jailer is getting the runes from each covenant in the shadowlands to empower himself. This means the domination magic he uses is a combination of the powers of each covenant.

Kyrians use magic to manifest doubt and remove memories
Maldraxxi use magic to project confidence and honor memories
Venthyr use magic to manifest pride and focus on individuality
Ardenweald people use magic to project humility and focus on community

These powers reflect each other. Freeing Anduin requires the intersection of them. Anduin being afraid of becoming Arthas (ie doubting himself) will be a factor.

[Maell]

Have you done the Kyrian campaign? The one about manifesting and defeating manifestations of doubt as a means to achieving power?

If you do the whole campaign/shadowland story you find that the Jailer is getting the runes from each covenant in the shadowlands to empower himself. This means the domination magic he uses is a combination of the powers of each covenant.

Kyrians use magic to manifest doubt and remove memories
Maldraxxi use magic to project confidence and honor memories
Venthyr use magic to manifest pride and focus on individuality
Ardenweald people use magic to project humility and focus on community

These powers reflect each other. Freeing Anduin requires the intersection of them. Anduin being afraid of becoming Arthas (ie doubting himself) will be a factor.

So... what you are really saying is that we will save Anduin with the power of friendship? or perhaps the power of love? (Wrathion makes a suprise appearance)

[Aucald]

People keep saying this but she never confronted Arthas after she *supposedly* regained control during the Third War: Arthas was in Icecrown & Sylvanas was still in the Eastern Kingdoms. She's clearly talking about the arrow she fired in the Sanctum of Domination. She never fired an arrow at Arthas. The WoWhead article even says its unclear who she's talking about but it's likely the Jailer.

In WC3: TFT, during the Undead campaign, Sylvanas (now possessing her physical body as a Dark Ranger) ambushes Arthas in Lordaeron and hits him with a paralyzing arrow. Arthas, due to his diminished strength owing to the Lich King weakening, is affected by this and left to Sylvanas and her cohort's tender mercies. Kel'Thuzad shows up and chases Sylvanas off, however; and Arthas makes his way to Northrend to heed the call of the Lich King and eventually become the Lich King himself.

This would be the incident where she "regains control," due to the first Lich King explicitly losing power to control the Scourge, and would also make sense of her stating she "betrayed her people," as in betrayed the Quel'dorei when Arthas raised her as a Banshee and she got yoked to the will of the Lich King.

[Relapses]

In WC3: TFT, during the Undead campaign, Sylvanas (now possessing her physical body as a Dark Ranger) ambushes Arthas in Lordaeron and hits him with a paralyzing arrow. Arthas, due to his diminished strength owing to the Lich King weakening, is affected by this and left to Sylvanas and her cohort's tender mercies. Kel'Thuzad shows up and chases Sylvanas off, however; and Arthas makes his way to Northrend to heed the call of the Lich King and eventually become the Lich King himself.

This would be the incident where she "regains control," due to the first Lich King explicitly losing power to control the Scourge, and would also make sense of her stating she "betrayed her people," as in betrayed the Quel'dorei when Arthas raised her as a Banshee and she got yoked to the will of the Lich King.

This makes a lot of sense and also explains the "story that began in WC3" that the devs mentioned in the 9.2 preview.

[Nyel]

So you are actually sure this is a finished animation we will see in-game when we bring him to 0%, instead of death cinematic we usually get? Because you seem to be overreacting hard and just wanting to shit on the guy on every occasion.

No no no, everything will be so much better than it is on the PTR, you know, like always! It's obvious that I am joking about the recent animation, right? If we get a completely new one on the live servers we can talk about that.
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By the way, no hints for the upcoming expansions on the PTR as of now?