Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[ExiHext]

Ah yes. The typical forum experience.

Person 1: Dude you're wrong, leave the game! Here are my awful reasons why the game is amazing despite having no subscribers left.

Me: No, I'm not wrong, and here is why.

Person 2: Lol powertripping much?

Whatever you are taking...TAKE LESS!

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Arrogance is very easy to fall into. Its why I still admit I was wrong on Classic or a vanilla esque servers would never happen(Oh oopsy). SL did not go as I had planned to but thats easy mispredict IMO.

[Makabreska]

Ah yes. The typical forum experience.

Person 1: Dude you're wrong, leave the game! Here are my awful reasons why the game is amazing despite having no subscribers left.

Me: No, I'm not wrong, and here is why.

Person 2: Lol powertripping much?

The issue is, your "here is why" was simply you placing yourself above other posters and even WoW devs, just because you happened to post ideas and concepts for a very long time. Which just reeks of arrogance and is a textbook example of "armchair dev". Again, you are not special, and no one will bow down to your "amazing" ideas.

[Makabreska]

Like I said, I've been here since the beginning. I'm a published game developer with a university degree in games design, and have been awarded for my design work. Obviously it sounds very arrogant to list your own merits like that, I realise this. But sometimes you get pushed in this direction by forum posters with no actual clue of what they're talking about. I'm not going to sit here and let some 17-year-old child tell me I have no clue what makes a good WoW expansion, because I most certainly do.

Man, I love internet. Everyone can claim w/e they want. Even if you are a game dev, you still act like an arrogant kid that came down to this earth to grace us with his excellent game dev knowledge and gets mad when someone puts his amazing gifts into question.

Oh, and STILL no one will give what you say any extra value.

[Dracullus]

Like I said, I've been here since the beginning. I'm a published game developer with a university degree in games design, and have been awarded for my design work. Obviously it sounds very arrogant to list your own merits like that, I realise this. But sometimes you get pushed in this direction by forum posters with no actual clue of what they're talking about. I'm not going to sit here and let someone tell me I have no clue what makes a good WoW expansion, because I most certainly do..

Sorry, I'm Pope and I outrank you. Shadowlands are fine and certainly not fake.



Btw, last user here who claimed he's game developer (that I noticed) later wanted to get pirate version of Diablo II Resurrected cause "there are no differences". xD

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Oh great "I'm a game developer."

[Dracullus]

Pope? Really? Name 10 boys that you've molested.

I can't, that would be off topic.

[Marlamin]

Just did a world quest in Zereth Mortis where you need to throw some goop on Mawsworn so they get eaten by a giant worm. It was voiced by Taelia Fordragon who I don't think we've seen appear in 9.2 yet? Wonder if she'll be doing more in the story or if she's just there for world quests.

(Upon entering WQ area) Taelia Fordragon: Beneath these sands are ravenous worms. See if you can bait them out and turn them against the Mawsworn! (listen)
(Upon completion) Taelia Fordragon: With the Mawsworn so well-fortified, sometimes you need to get a little creative. (listen)

[Makabreska]

Just did a world quest in Zereth Mortis where you need to throw some goop on Mawsworn so they get eaten by a giant worm. It was voiced by Taelia Fordragon who I don't think we've seen appear yet? Wonder if she'll be doing more in the story or if she's just there for world quests.

She was in Oribos next to Bolvar in first season, but that's it.

[Cherry123]

Just did a world quest in Zereth Mortis where you need to throw some goop on Mawsworn so they get eaten by a giant worm. It was voiced by Taelia Fordragon who I don't think we've seen appear in 9.2 yet? Wonder if she'll be doing more in the story or if she's just there for world quests.

her model 9.2 is marked in 8 places

[Sondrelk]

Just did a world quest in Zereth Mortis where you need to throw some goop on Mawsworn so they get eaten by a giant worm. It was voiced by Taelia Fordragon who I don't think we've seen appear in 9.2 yet? Wonder if she'll be doing more in the story or if she's just there for world quests.

Nice, almost completely forgot Taelia was even in this expansion. Hopefully we actually get some forward momentum on her relationship with Bolvar.

For that matter, something decisive on whether she is the daughter of Calia would be nice. Could of course be a complete coincidence, but Calia missing a husband and daughter, along with Bolvar and Taelia missing a wife and mother is a bit too much of a perfect setup for my tastes.

[T-34]

A progression system with no player power or something that looks like "Cypher of the first ones" but power isn't involved. If that isn't anything to go by, well the covanent haters are probably cheering their butts off.

Covenants in themselves are no problem, the problem is that lore/aesthetics are mixed up with player power.
So I have to endure playing as a furry in order to be optimal, which pisses me of.
And others had to live with picking a suboptimal covenant because the liked that covenant more.

I have no problems with borrowed power or progression systems as long as gameplay choices aren't mixed up with lore/aesthetics.

[ExiHext]

Covenants in themselves are no problem, the problem is that lore/aesthetics are mixed up with player power.
So I have to endure playing as a furry in order to be optimal, which pisses me of.
And others had to live with picking a suboptimal covenant because the liked that covenant more.

I have no problems with borrowed power or progression systems as long as gameplay choices aren't mixed up with lore/aesthetics.

Yea, just tie the progression to the player directly (artifact weapons-like) and make the rest cosmetic.

[shoc]

Wow, they are really hurting the wrong one here. It's not the games fault that the studio had assholes in it ... that's just an example of wrong cancel culture.

Are you really anthropomorphising the game itself?

[Ersula]

Geoff Keighley removes Activision Blizzard from The Game Awards World Premiere presentations

What's the opposite of copium? Schadenfreude?

This tells us they absolutely were planning on teasing the next expansion at TGA after cancelling Blizzconline. Now what? Their only avenue now is to just dump it onto youtube in the coming weeks, with no fanfaire. How humiliating.

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Are you really anthropomorphising the game itself?

She means the developers, the ones that still work there. It does seem like they cleaned house but Ion & Dansuer are absolutely not the answer to saving this game. FF14 is only marginally superior but the one way they're soaring now is their content is actually fun. 9.2 still just looks like Korthia 2.0... Deciphering runes? Are they serious with this crap?

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Nice, almost completely forgot Taelia was even in this expansion. Hopefully we actually get some forward momentum on her relationship with Bolvar.

For that matter, something decisive on whether she is the daughter of Calia would be nice. Could of course be a complete coincidence, but Calia missing a husband and daughter, along with Bolvar and Taelia missing a wife and mother is a bit too much of a perfect setup for my tastes.

What, are they suggesting Calia doesn't recognize Bolvar being the father of her baby? What kind of depraved Lordaeron orgies were they having? If she's keeping it secret, why? There's no point anymore. And they already gave her a boyfriend in Jaina's brother. The only thing worse than Dansuer writing familial drama, is his handing of romance drama.

[shoc]

What's the opposite of copium? Schadenfreude?

This tells us they absolutely were planning on teasing the next expansion at TGA after cancelling Blizzconline. Now what? Their only avenue now is to just dump it onto youtube in the coming weeks, with no fanfaire. How humiliating.

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She means the developers, the ones that still work there. It does seem like they cleaned house but Ion & Dansuer are absolutely not the answer to saving this game. FF14 is only marginally superior but the one way they're soaring now is their content is actually fun. 9.2 still just looks like Korthia 2.0... Deciphering runes? Are they serious with this crap?

If the bar for being a 'good employee' at Blizzard is just not being a criminal misogynist I don't see Ion and Danuser going anywhere. They both strike me as the kind of guys who silently stare unblinking at a blank spot on the wall whenever a woman enters the room. Quality of the game design, or the storytelling, is probably very very low on their list of priorities right now.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

If the bar for being a 'good employee' at Blizzard is just not being a criminal misogynist I don't see Ion and Danuser going anywhere. They both strike me as the kind of guys who silently stare unblinking at a blank spot on the wall whenever a woman enters the room. Quality of the game design, or the storytelling, is probably very very low on their list of priorities right now.

I wouldn't make stuff up like you are implying. We don't know the behaviors of Ion or Danuser.

[Ersula]

If the bar for being a 'good employee' at Blizzard is just not being a criminal misogynist I don't see Ion and Danuser going anywhere. They both strike me as the kind of guys who silently stare unblinking at a blank spot on the wall whenever a woman enters the room. Quality of the game design, or the storytelling, is probably very very low on their list of priorities right now.

Then what is at the top of Ion & Danuser's priorities? This specific game is their entire Job. They're probably entirely focused on 10.0 but based on the last 4 years I just expect it to be a poor scrambling of Legion systems, again.

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I wouldn't make stuff up like you are implying. We don't know the behaviors of Ion or Danuser.

Considering how instrumental Jeff Kaplan was, if there was any record of bad behavior from them, they would have been fired so fast. And Ion & Danuser aren't nearly as talented as Kaplan was. Ion doesn't even have programming experience.

[Hitei]

This tells us they absolutely were planning on teasing the next expansion at TGA after cancelling Blizzconline.

Pretty huge leap.

[Ersula]

Pretty huge leap.

If not, why would he say "We're not taking sides" then later "On second thought, we're removing Activision Blizzard products from announcement"?

Unless you're saying they originally had some other product to announce & considering all major Activision franchises just had major releases & Blizzard doesn't keep its projects secret & I can't imagine what that would be. It was absolutely either the cinematic teaser for the next wow expansion or an Overwatch 2 video. And considering Overwatch 2 was just delayed It wouldn't be that.