Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Nyel]

That did look like that was the idea in Warlords of Draenor, but since Legion the subscription model still works. They wouldn't copy ESO's model, they'd copy FFXIV business model because its much more successful & its the same one WoW is currently using. So expect no change there. And if they ever hope to dig themselves out of this rutt, they need to show off a big new shiny expansion, not a half-sized annual one.

I‘m 100% sure WoW is not continuing in the exact same way after Shadowlands as it did in the past. I think the 2 year expansion / 3 content patch system has been worn out and Shadowlands put a rest to the 3 content patch per expansion style.

What will change is about to be seen, but there for sure will be changes. They can’t continue in this vain, it only went downhill after Legion.

[Makorus]

What was filler patch of Legion? Or BfA? Current patch system started when Ion took over, Metzen has nothing to do with it.

And no, Argus wasn't a filler patch. It's like saying final battle in Mordor in Return of the King was filler scene, they could end movie in Minas Tirith.

8.1 and 7.1 (7.2 to a lesser extent)

[ExiHext]

Its so exhausting, like if you are that miserable, just log off. (Not you specifically of course). God if I hated a game that much I'd of quit.

That's what I'm saying for quite a while. But the addiction/ex-girlfriend-syndrome is soooooo strong. At this point I'm only amused about what people can bicker.

[AngerFork]

And some people want him to be gay cos they find him hot and want to live their precarious gay fantasies through the character

while others yet again, just love the ide of two cute boy men getting it on.

question is, would the move make Anduin very popular or just turn people furthe roff wow.. it's hard to say.

The shipping crowd are always very vocal on social media, they can make something appear to be really wanted, but just one other thing the far greater and silent majority would frown over and be put off by. Maybe Anduin was a character they liked or were okay about for a change and would feel him going gay is just another needless nod trying to force them to pick up something they don't want to.

While I doubt very much that Anduin is actually gay or even bi, I can't deny that it would make for some interesting future story points. For one thing, we have had LGBT characters in the game so far such as Flynn & Matthias, but not in leadership positions. What does it mean for the future leadership of Stormwind & of the Alliance if the King will not have a natural birth heir? Perhaps the couple could adopt a child, but otherwise there really would not be a clear line of succession in place. Would the other Alliance races try to form a council or try & take leadership themselves, just to ensure leadership that lasted beyond a monarchy whose future may lie in the voting interests of Stormwind nobles? This could even be used as an argument for the nobles to try & give Turalyon the throne...after all, he already has a wife & an heir to continue the line forward, not to mention his past heroics for the Alliance.

Plus it's not like the story would completely come out of nowhere. In addition to the Wrathion stuff, Anduin's consistent brushing off of Genn's thoughts on having an heir could well be looked at as having more reasons than just youthful exuberance, especially as we haven't really seen Anduin do any dating.

That being said, I doubt that we'll see any of this come to fruition...Taelia seems to be being prepped to be Anduin's future wife & Tess Greymane has already been mentioned as a possibility during the aforementioned Genn/Anduin conversation. It seems likely that should Anduin return to Azeroth as himself, we'll see some sort of quick arc in either an upcoming book or expansion to set in the future of the Stormwind Monarchy.

[Ersula]

What was filler patch of Legion? Or BfA? Current patch system started when Ion took over, Metzen has nothing to do with it.

And no, Argus wasn't a filler patch. It's like saying final battle in Mordor in Return of the King was filler scene, they could end movie in Minas Tirith.

"Current Patch System?" The current patch release schedule isn't largely different from how its ever been: We know there was a Shattrath raid planned in WoD, there's even work-in-progress maps in the datamining dedicated to it. The Argus patch is almost entirely new lore appearing wholecloth. Like I said, if the Seat of the Pantheon fight happened directly after Kil'jaden nothing would seem to be missing from the expansion. They even had everything they needed to do the Illidan rejection of the gift scene with Xe'ra without ever involving the Lightforged. Same goes for Nazjatar in BFA, if Azshara was never mentioned in that expansion, nothing would be different. They called them "Troll Raids" years ago.

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That being said, I doubt that we'll see any of this come to fruition...Taelia seems to be being prepped to be Anduin's future wife & Tess Greymane has already been mentioned as a possibility during the aforementioned Genn/Anduin conversation.

You guys are writing literal paragraphs defending a fictional characters' heterosexuality in response to an offhand joke. This is why it's fun to headcannon characters as gay, because it clearly pisses people off. Rent free.

[shoc]

Is Anduin being gay even up for debate? He's gay as fuck. How can anyone take one look at his character and think for a moment that there is even a sliver of heterosexuality there? The homoerotic sexual tension between Anduin and Wrathion is the only good thing about WoW lore, don't take that away from me you straight freaks.

[Dracullus]

8.1 and 7.1 (7.2 to a lesser extent)

Do you know what is a filler? Literally how attacking Zuldazar and Suramar were filler to Legion and BfA. Both are main plot. It's not some troll raid on the side. We could tell it about Mechagon if it would be only content of 8.2.

Its so exhausting, like if you are that miserable, just log off. (Not you specifically of course). God if I hated a game that much I'd of quit.

It was exhausting 10-15 years ago. Now it's just funny. Opinion of someone who is invested in something that is 'shit' since 2010 is useless by definition.

"Current Patch System?" The current patch release schedule isn't largely different from how its ever been: We know there was a Shattrath raid planned in WoD, there's even work-in-progress maps in the datamining dedicated to it. The Argus patch is almost entirely new lore appearing wholecloth. Like I said, if the Seat of the Pantheon fight happened directly after Kil'jaden nothing would seem to be missing from the expansion. They even had everything they needed to do the Illidan rejection of the gift scene with Xe'ra without ever involving the Lightforged. Same goes for Nazjatar in BFA, if Azshara was never mentioned in that expansion, nothing would be different. They called them "Troll Raids" years ago.

We could kill KJ, jump to seat and destroy Sargeras right after Broken Shore intro! OMG WHOLE LEGION IS A FILLER.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

What was filler patch of Legion? Or BfA? Current patch system started when Ion took over, Metzen has nothing to do with it.

And no, Argus wasn't a filler patch. It's like saying final battle in Mordor in Return of the King was filler scene, they could end movie in Minas Tirith.

Not that I wholly agree with he idea but one could argue that 9.3 and 8.3 were cut shorter then planned with the huge zone esc N’zoth model found but not finished and the same with the chained argus soul.

[Makabreska]

Do you know what is a filler? Literally how attacking Zuldazar and Suramar were filler to Legion and BfA. Both are main plot. It's not some troll raid on the side. We could tell it about Mechagon if it would be only content of 8.2.

Again, "filler" term pretty much lost it's all meaning ages ago, because people will just use it to describe xpac/patch they simply don't like, regardless of it's content and story progression. I think the one true filler patch was famed 6.1 "Seflie cam patch".

[AngerFork]

You guys are writing literal paragraphs defending a fictional characters' heterosexuality in response to an offhand joke. This is why it's fun to headcannon characters as gay, because it clearly pisses people off. Rent free.

If I may, what did I write that made you think I'm angry about Anduin's sexuality as opposed to theorizing different directions for the story to go? I don't feel I've done anything more here than simply given a bit of thought to a couple different directions Anduin's character could go.

[Makabreska]

You guys are writing literal paragraphs defending a fictional characters' heterosexuality in response to an offhand joke. This is why it's fun to headcannon characters as gay, because it clearly pisses people off. Rent free.

Are you really the guy to say that, when you keep defending a fictional character atrocities?

[Dracullus]

Again, "filler" term pretty much lost it's all meaning ages ago, because people will just use it to describe xpac/patch they simply don't like, regardless of it's content and story progression. I think the one true filler patch was famed 6.1 "Seflie cam patch".

I would call that everything that is not connected to main plot(s). WoW is (obviously) not some masterfully crafted story, they create macguffins like Pillars of Creation or Sygils as they go, but they are still part of main story.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

8.1 and 7.1 (7.2 to a lesser extent)

Dealing with dark shore and the zandalari in 8.1 are pretty core parts to be bfa the expan literally starts around dark shore with the pre patch content and the horde leveling is all about zandalar and the Alliance story is in response to the horde siding with them.

[Makorus]

Do you know what is a filler? Literally how attacking Zuldazar and Suramar were filler to Legion and BfA. Both are main plot. It's not some troll raid on the side. We could tell it about Mechagon if it would be only content of 8.2.



It was exhausting 10-15 years ago. Now it's just funny. Opinion of someone who is invested in something that is 'shit' since 2010 is useless by definition.



We could kill KJ, jump to seat and destroy Sargeras right after Broken Shore intro! OMG WHOLE LEGION IS A FILLER.

Because they are filler patches.

The Suramar storyline could have easily been part of 7.2 and it wouldn't have been out of place. Karazhan didn't matter in the slightest, and Trial of Valor was pointless.

The war storyline wouldn't have been any more or less satisfying without the Dazaralor raid. You wouldn't notice if it wasn't part of it. It contributed nothing to the story at large, other than Rastakhan dying, maybe (But he was a side character anyway).

Compare that to something like HFC, which has a lasting effect on the story, or Nazjatar.

[The Stormbringer]

Is Anduin being gay even up for debate? He's gay as fuck. How can anyone take one look at his character and think for a moment that there is even a sliver of heterosexuality there? The homoerotic sexual tension between Anduin and Wrathion is the only good thing about WoW lore, don't take that away from me you straight freaks.

You're really bad at lore if you don't know that Anduin is either straight or bisexual. He had a thing for a dwarf chick and a Draenei lady, while it's never been explicitly said that he and Wrathion have a thing. So, best case scenario (for you), he's bi. Worst case scenario, he's actually been hetero all along and the gay undertones were all in the fans' heads.

[Makabreska]

You're really bad at lore if you don't know that Anduin is either straight or bisexual. He had a thing for a dwarf chick and a Draenei lady, while it's never been explicitly said that he and Wrathion have a thing. So, best case scenario (for you), he's bi. Worst case scenario, he's actually been hetero all along and the gay undertones were all in the fans' heads.

I think you got baited. :v

[Aeluron Lightsong]

You're really bad at lore if you don't know that Anduin is either straight or bisexual. He had a thing for a dwarf chick and a Draenei lady, while it's never been explicitly said that he and Wrathion have a thing. So, best case scenario (for you), he's bi. Worst case scenario, he's actually been hetero all along and the gay undertones were all in the fans' heads.

No duh, shippers love projecting fantasies onto fictional characters. Possibly what they themselves want if I'm bold but thats off topic.

[The Stormbringer]

I think you got baited. :v

I don't really care if I got baited. /shrug

No duh, shippers love projecting fantasies onto fictional characters. Possibly what they themselves want if I'm bold but thats off topic.

Well, who wouldn't want to be a suave, charming Dragon with a pretty handsome blonde love interest that leads the most powerful nation on the planet?!

[Raetary]

Are we shitting on Anduins sexuality again?

Guess some people are still stuck in their middle school mentality.

[shoc]

You're really bad at lore if you don't know that Anduin is either straight or bisexual. He had a thing for a dwarf chick and a Draenei lady, while it's never been explicitly said that he and Wrathion have a thing. So, best case scenario (for you), he's bi. Worst case scenario, he's actually been hetero all along and the gay undertones were all in the fans' heads.

Anduin's homosexuality is kind of overshadowed by his interspecies pansexuality. Draenei are straight up aliens. If anything he is an extreme omnisexual. Draenei, Dwarf, Dragon, but if there is one in common between them all its the D.