1. #16041
    Quote Originally Posted by Ersula View Post
    Honestly the game is bereft of all romance.
    WoD missed such an opportunity when they made the Shipyard about naval things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    WoD missed such an opportunity when they made the Shipyard about naval things.
    I don't think the playerbase would handle romanceable options well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Khaza-R View Post
    I feel like you're probably right. Hopefully they're not going to normalize 2 major content patch expansions moving forward as well.
    It wouldn't be too bad it they went the Swtor model.

    Sub to get the xpac free. Lots of cash shop stuff.

    I think that's the method they will go with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    It wouldn't be too bad it they went the Swtor model.

    Sub to get the xpac free. Lots of cash shop stuff.

    I think that's the method they will go with.
    I really cannot see them moving away from the expansion model when Shadowlands sold 3.7M copies first day.

  5. #16045
    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    It wouldn't be too bad it they went the Swtor model.

    Sub to get the xpac free. Lots of cash shop stuff.

    I think that's the method they will go with.
    Yeah. I've been thinking the traditional sub will go away. Not box sales though.

    They will add premium sub that gives you access to cash shop items so long as its active. Most likely the quantity of cash shop items will increase. But as long as in-game content doesn't decline, it could be a win-win for everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    I really cannot see them moving away from the expansion model when Shadowlands sold 3.7M copies first day.
    Apparently thats mallable according to some people here.
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  7. #16047
    Wow-head posting hints?

    If there's anyone on the Wowhead team that knows anything about the next expansion, that person surely is perculia.



    Time to update my old chart again with something less blurry:



    One thing is for certain, all this stuff added in the game store since December 2020 is elven-related.

    I'm totally on board IF it's set to happen in Azeroth.

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    Edit: FORGET IT!

    She posted the same thing about the dragon pack...

    https://www.wowhead.com/news/the-dra...nd-pets-325358
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  8. #16048
    It doesn't really take a genius to figure out that the elves will be featured massively in the near future.

    The Eastern Kingdoms book already mentioned how Alleria seeks to bring Quel'Thalas back into the fold, and how she is certain of her success; she believes it is inevitable:

    North of the Thandol River, everything points to Alliance growth. Even in the Silvermoon section we learn that Alleria “knows” that the Blood Elves will stand with the Alliance once again — though Shaw is skeptical as to reasons why Alleria may believe this.
    I have seen and observed the blatant evidence, and I have come to only one conclusion. I believe that the Ren'dorei are ready and soon they will make power moves. Not necessarily war, but they will start to put their plan in motion. To bring Quel'Thalas back into the fold.

    The Ren'dorei are not the only ones who seek to bring their lost kin back into the Alliance. Vereesa of the Silver Covenant also mentioned how she seeks to bring the Sin'dorei back into the fold, "redeem them" if you will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    I have seen and observed the blatant evidence, and I have come to only one conclusion. I believe that the Ren'dorei are ready and soon they will make power moves. Not necessarily war, but they will start to put their plan in motion. To bring Quel'Thalas back into the fold.

    The Ren'dorei are not the only ones who seek to bring their lost kin back into the Alliance. Vereesa of the Silver Covenant also mentioned how she seeks to bring the Sin'dorei back into the fold, "redeem them" if you will.
    Bruh...

    If you did not notice - we're about to go into the World of Hugcraft with both devs signaling that they are investing their time into removing faction barriers for PvE group content AND story of Shadowlands going further into Horde+Alliance cooperation with Jaina all but falling in Thrall's/Baine's hands, Tyrande going "renewal" and everyone working to save the golden boy.

    I would not be surprised if next expansion we will get to stroll in Orgrimmar as Alliance players or Stormwind as Horde players, even if it would be yellow neutral NPCs.

    So yeah, on that front Blood Elves will "get back into the fold".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaidax View Post
    Bruh...

    If you did not notice - we're about to go into the World of Hugcraft with both devs signaling that they are investing their time into removing faction barriers for PvE group content AND story of Shadowlands going further into Horde+Alliance cooperation with Jaina all but falling in Thrall's/Baine's hands, Tyrande going "renewal" and everyone working to save the golden boy.

    I would not be surprised if next expansion we will get to stroll in Orgrimmar as Alliance players or Stormwind as Horde players, even if it would be yellow neutral NPCs.

    So yeah, on that front Blood Elves will "get back into the fold".
    "World of Hugcraft"? And what do the Ren'dorei [and Silver Covenant] get out of this "Hugcraft" you speak of? Because unless they're allowed back into Quel'Thalas with full rights as its citizens, then there is no "Hugcraft".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Varodoc View Post
    "World of Hugcraft"? And what do the Ren'dorei [and Silver Covenant] get out of this "Hugcraft" you speak of? Because unless they're allowed back into Quel'Thalas with full rights as its citizens, then there is no "Hugcraft".
    Yes, because anyone really cares about that meme "race", aside from you and bunch of High Elf cultists.

    One of the reasons why it's an "allied" race is so that Blizzard will spend as little time on them as possible post-factum. If tomorrow Blizzard decides that the time to wipe out faction barriers is now - they will address your concerns with a bunch of one-liner popups from NPCs and maybe an odd side-quest.

    What these low effort mutants would get from it? Guess not getting shot in the face for eventually strolling around Silvermoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edoll View Post
    Yes. Yes, it is.
    Yep my thoughts exactly.

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    So Elune or Dragon Isles? Maybe both?

  13. #16053
    Quote Originally Posted by Luck4 View Post
    Wow-head posting hints?
    You should never pay attention to the editorial comments in a wowhead article. They just make shit up and badly guess, because having some theory about what a thing "could be" makes an article more interesting and clickworthy.

    Perculia is the same team member who, two weeks ago, put out an article insisting that the Sylvanas lines about the arrow were about her being mind-controlled by the Jailer, and then when it was pointed out that this was wrong, called the Arthas line of logic an "alternative interpretation" with less weight.

  14. #16054
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    You should never pay attention to the editorial comments in a wowhead article. They just make shit up and badly guess, because having some theory about what a thing "could be" makes an article more interesting and clickworthy.
    I see it now, thanks for enlightening me.

    Click baits everywhere...

  15. #16055
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    I really cannot see them moving away from the expansion model when Shadowlands sold 3.7M copies first day.
    Let's see how many the next expansion sells, shall we?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Osmeric View Post
    Let's see how many the next expansion sells, shall we?
    Probably just as well, since every expansion has sold well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    Probably just as well, since every expansion has sold well.
    It depends on what the theme is and if they are going to announce any exciting features or big game changes.

    If it's another cosmic expansion not on Azeroth with no new class or races and another ap grind I could definitely base the box sales fall into the 2 to 3m range.

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    We already know we're returning to Azeroth after SL so......no need to worry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickat View Post
    It depends on what the theme is and if they are going to announce any exciting features or big game changes.

    If it's another cosmic expansion not on Azeroth with no new class or races and another ap grind I could definitely base the box sales fall into the 2 to 3m range.
    Anyone suggesting they're going to change their business model before 11.0 is basically theorizing they're giving up on WoW without even trying to fix it. Not what I'd do, but on the other hand Mike Ybarra is asking for a new executive producer position for WoW on twitter right now, so who knows.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Valysar View Post
    Now hero class too, Dragoon

    Btw the pet sneezes, that's so cute
    Prepared to get sued by Square enix, unless their hypothetical Dragoon class looks like the protoss

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    Quote Originally Posted by Makabreska View Post
    Are you really the guy to say that, when you keep defending a fictional character atrocities?
    Like I said: I'm living in your brain rent free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dracullus View Post
    I would call that everything that is not connected to main plot(s). WoW is (obviously) not some masterfully crafted story, they create macguffins like Pillars of Creation or Sygils as they go, but they are still part of main story.
    We're just talking about raids. Filler isn't a dirty word. It's just the side content they plan with the option to cut out incase something goes wrong with development, for example a world-wide pandemic.

  20. #16060
    Quote Originally Posted by Slowpoke is a Gamer View Post
    Nothing yet which only increases the odds it already happened.

    *points thread once again at the updated Elwynn buildings*
    Already happened? Like the "hint" we don't see yet? I hope it's a little bit more exciting than slightly updated buildings, though.
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