Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[TheFirstOnes]

No read again. The point I was trying to make is that something else entirely has as much change as your theory. And I am talking about forum speculation.. idk if u were around but the south sea expansion was always number 1 thing and that was before wrathion who onky showed up later in mop.

You could be right, but I'm sticking by the whole Light and Shadow theory. Who knows though.

Yeah, I was around during the South Seas theories. I was around for a long...LONG time.

[Alanar]

You could be right, but I'm sticking by the whole Light and Shadow theory. Who knows though.

Yeah, I was around during the South Seas theories. I was around for a long...LONG time.

You must have had a different account, cus 2014 was much later. But still at that time it was always number 1 expansion theory. People were like ya we will get south seas afther wrath, nope. During cata speculation, this time we get south seas!! Again nope. I was super dissappointed with bfa because everyone appeared who I wanted to see, but nothing like how I imagined it.

But idk man its just that they could still surprise us like they did with mop.

[TheFirstOnes]

You must have had a different account, cus 2014 was much later. But still at that time it was always number 1 expansion theory. But idk man its just that they could still surprise us like they did with mop.

I used to look at MMO-Champion since 2012, before making an account in 2014. But even then, I've been looking at these theories WAY before I heard about MMO-Champion.

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They could definitely surprise us, yes.

How powerful is the Jailer going to be post-9.1?

[Nyel]

That raid looks like Icecrown Citadel and Torghast had a baby.

I‘m still convinced the final raid will take us back to Azeroth and Icecrown Citadel. So there’s that.

BTW, a Light vs Void expansion sounds terrible. What about a we vs. the Light expansion? That would be a lot more interesting. I don’t want the Light to be the good guys.

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How powerful is the Jailer going to be post-9.1?

It doesn’t matter, he’ll be dead / ripped of his powers / banished after Shadowlands.

[TheFirstOnes]

That raid looks like Icecrown Citadel and Torghast had a baby.

I‘m still convinced the final raid will take us back to Azeroth and Icecrown Citadel. So there’s that.

BTW, a Light vs Void expansion sounds terrible. What about a we vs. the Light expansion? That would be a lot more interesting. I don’t want the Light to be the good guys.

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It doesn’t matter, he’ll be dead / ripped of his powers / banished after Shadowlands.

Light Vs Void doesn't have to be "Light is good". Just means it's their eternal conflict, and we're pinned in the middle of it.

Also, ik the Jailer will be dead. But...how powerful will he be before we kill him?

[Makabreska]

Also, ik the Jailer will be dead. But...how powerful will he be before we kill him?

Dunno, but it is kinda meaningless, since it will all be scaled down to a raid fight with a third party helping us.

[Raetary]

BTW, a Light vs Void expansion sounds terrible. What about a we vs. the Light expansion? That would be a lot more interesting. I don’t want the Light to be the good guys.

LvV doesn't necessarily mean "light good, bash the void".
We could have a Light crusade invading Azeroth and have the Void play a supportive role for a change.

[Nyel]

Dunno, but it is kinda meaningless, since it will all be scaled down to a raid fight with a third party helping us.

Calling it now, the Eternal Ones will aid us like the Aspects helped us against Deathwing.

[TheFirstOnes]

LvV doesn't necessarily mean "light good, bash the void".
We could have a Light crusade invading Azeroth and have the Void play a supportive role for a change.

Or, 10.0: Light is the main foe, with Void on the sidelines.

10.1: Light slowly goes to Shadow.

Then 10.2 to 10.3: Void is the main foe.

[Makabreska]

LvV doesn't necessarily mean "light good, bash the void".
We could have a Light crusade invading Azeroth and have the Void play a supportive role for a change.

Or maybe team up with Void a little.

Light vs Void seems to be one of these eternal, never ending conflicts we sometimes have in fantasy settings, like Devils vs Demons in D&D.

[Varodoc]

Let's stop acting like the Void is evil. Alleria and the Ren'dorei have used their powers for good acting in the defence of Azeroth, the Void is not, never was, and will never be evil, just as a sword is not evil. And wielding the Void doesn't make one evil.

Or maybe team up with Void a little.

Even more than "a little". Void elves are playable after all, it definitely doesn't make sense to force players to abide by the Light.

[Nyel]

Even more than "a little". Void elves are playable after all, it definitely doesn't make sense to force players to abide by the Light.

Don’t we have the same issue with Lightforged Draenei though, if we apply that logic?

[Wangming]

Whatever came after that is not directed at anyone here. Don't worry. In fact, it's not even directed to any single person. It's more so a portion of fans that think Denathrius makes no sense to the story, which is false.

Personally I don't give a fuck if he makes sense or not. His eyebrows have more personality than Zovaal, Sylvanas, N'zoth and Sargeras combined.
WoW desperately needed a villain like him and I'm glad his story didn't end with Castle Nathria.

[Varodoc]

Don’t we have the same issue with Lightforged Draenei though, if we apply that logic?

Hence why the Covenant mechanic will be copy-pasted for Light and Void, so that you can choose whoever you want and be done with it, you shouldn't be forced into one side or the other. And everyone knows Blizzard likes recycling systems, see Artifacts and the Necklace, see AP, Azerite, Renown.

[Raetary]

Or, 10.0: Light is the main foe, with Void on the sidelines.

10.1: Light slowly goes to Shadow.

Then 10.2 to 10.3: Void is the main foe.

I'd rather have a consistent theme throughout the expansion.
We can have a little void focus as a treat, but keep it Light oriented.

[TheFirstOnes]

I'd rather have a consistent theme throughout the expansion.
We can have a little void focus as a treat, but keep it Light oriented.

Ehhhh

Idk how Light would be the main enemy, unless they plan on making the Void Lords and the Light conflict a 2 parter.

[Kiivar86]

Hence why the Covenant mechanic will be copy-pasted for Light and Void, so that you can choose whoever you want and be done with it, you shouldn't be forced into one side or the other. And everyone knows Blizzard likes recycling systems, see Artifacts and the Necklace, see AP, Azerite, Renown.

Aww yeah, Light-sided Void Elves and Void-aligned Lightforged Draenei, here we come!

Ehhhh

Idk how Light would be the main enemy, unless they plan on making the Void Lords and the Light conflict a 2 parter.

We've have a few tastes of it, from X'era trying to force her choice on Illidan to what was going on in AU-Draenor with Yrel post WoD.

Zealous, convert-or-die.

[Varodoc]

Aww yeah, Light-sided Void Elves and Void-aligned Lightforged Draenei, here we come!

Kyrian Void elves are basically Light-sided Void elves anyway

And Yeah you can say "but the kyrians are technically not affiliated with Light but with Death!", but let's be real that's irrelevant. Kyrians literally come with angelic light wings, which Void elves can wear.

Also you know that Shadow Priest LF Draenei are playable right?

[Raetary]

Kyrian Void elves are basically Light-sided Void elves anyway

And Yeah you can say "but the kyrians are technically not affiliated with Light but with Death!", but let's be real that's irrelevant. Kyrians literally come with angelic light wings, which Void elves can wear.

Anima isn't Light.
The Kyrians being based on classical angels doesn't suddenly make them a faction of Light wielders.

Also you know that Shadow Priest LF Draenei are playable right?

Which is purely a gameplay related issue, as they can't just make class specs unavailable for certain races.

[Kiivar86]

Kyrian Void elves are basically Light-sided Void elves anyway

And Yeah you can say "but the kyrians are technically not affiliated with Light but with Death!", but let's be real that's irrelevant. Kyrians literally come with angelic light wings, which Void elves can wear.

Also you know that Shadow Priest LF Draenei are playable right?

Good point about the kyrian actually.

And yeah I know, I have one! I like playing contrary things like that (another reason I want Draenei Warlocks at some point).

But the idea of Light/Void covenants and more contrasting stuff makes me laugh and I want it.