Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Aeluron Lightsong]

An he still holds such an influence here. One tweet and we got several pages of discussion each time.

And living in some of our heads rent free.

[Vasoka]

Alright, serious legit question here. No troll. What, exactly, has Towelliee been 100% right about - in particularity? Has he ever leaked a particular thing that has turned out to be right, or has it always been vague BS?

[guro-tchai]

Dragons have been teased a lot. Wrathion is looking for the dragon isles, there suddenly are black dragons on island expeditions(with one chromatic dragon), Sinestra and the twilight dragons are still out there, the infinite dragonflight appeared back in bfa, Nozdormu has yet to become murozond, and the new void dragons. No idea if chromatus is actually ever mentioned in game but the jailer appeared out of nowhere too.

considering that the final old god has been killed (if the entirety of shadowlands isn't just a nightmare created by N'Zoth, ofc), there's a lot of potential for the twilight dragonflight. kinda like the undead, they are probably universally feared and hated. with the end of the old god influence on them, they might want to become friendly to the rest of the world, only to find that it's not reciprocated.
Alexstrasza in the Dragon Soul said that the attacking twilight drakes are 'my clutch no longer', and are to be killed. she might think the same to this day, as they represent the enemy she was created to fight against. not only that, some of the twilights were born after her continued rape in Grim Batol, so she could have some strong feelings about their existence.
rejected and bitter illegitimate children and a traumatized mother, who can't let go of prejudices - i can imagine them writing something like that, especially with this obsession with healing, acceptance, reconciliation etc

[Makabreska]

Alright, serious legit question here. No troll. What, exactly, has Towelliee been 100% right about - in particularity? Has he ever leaked a particular thing that has turned out to be right, or has it always been vague BS?

Ooof, you just opened another can of worms.

[Vasoka]

Ooof, you just opened another can of worms.

How so? I just wanna know if the guy can actually be trusted or not.

[EbaumsTipster]

How so? I just wanna know if the guy can actually be trusted or not.

He was right about something on here in the past year or so (maybe SL release?), I distinctly remember that.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I don't know, the only thing I Remember is one thing that I don't remember and then him being the first to talk about the Ripcord having been pulled and 9.1.5 being good and a few days later it was pulled and blue post galore about 9.1.5.

[Sondrelk]

He was right about something on here in the past year or so (maybe SL release?), I distinctly remember that.

He has been correct at some things, but not enough to make it undisputable that he actually has insider knowledge, especially when you consider the many times he has been wrong.

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I don't know, the only thing I Remember is one thing that I don't remember and then him being the first to talk about the Ripcord having been pulled and 9.1.5 being good and a few days later it was pulled and blue post galore about 9.1.5.

I faintly remember his reveal regarding 9.1.5 was that it would have things players wanted, which is technically true, but also a completely empty argument.

[Hitei]

considering that the final old god has been killed (if the entirety of shadowlands isn't just a nightmare created by N'Zoth, ofc)

Xal is still alive.

[Varodoc]

considering that the final old god has been killed (if the entirety of shadowlands isn't just a nightmare created by N'Zoth, ofc), there's a lot of potential for the twilight dragonflight. kinda like the undead, they are probably universally feared and hated. with the end of the old god influence on them, they might want to become friendly to the rest of the world, only to find that it's not reciprocated.
Alexstrasza in the Dragon Soul said that the attacking twilight drakes are 'my clutch no longer', and are to be killed. she might think the same to this day, as they represent the enemy she was created to fight against. not only that, some of the twilights were born after her continued rape in Grim Batol, so she could have some strong feelings about their existence.
rejected and bitter illegitimate children and a traumatized mother, who can't let go of prejudices - i can imagine them writing something like that, especially with this obsession with healing, acceptance, reconciliation etc

N'Zoth aside, It is also worth noting (incredibly important actually) that an "unknown voice" was heard whispering in Ulduar in Legion, Ulduar was the prison of the Old God of Death Yogg-Saron:

An Unknown Voice whispers: You are a pawn of forces unseen.

After which "Saronite clouds" spawned, Saronite being the corrupted and crystallized blood of the Old God Yogg-Saron.

So even Yogg-Saron is very likely active and biding his time, waiting to strike again. What some people ignore as usual is that the Old Gods are immortal, they can wait millennia before emerging again, and thrive in the shadows, so it is very likely that the likes of C'Thun and Yogg-Saron are also still active, working in the shadows and waiting to strike again.

As for C'Thun, the WoW comic outright has his "presence" remain as an unseen antagonistic force, he is the will guiding Cho'gall to his corpse, to resurrect it, and he is the power that deformed Cho'gall's body. But his plans were thwarted by the half draenei-orc-human Jesus.

[Raetary]

I say 10.0 will have content in it.

Now that i have showcased my streamer-lvl prophetic abilities, i demand sacrifices.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

"Content? We don't do content here." says Team 2.

[Relapses]

I say 10.0 will have content in it.

Now that i have showcased my streamer-lvl prophetic abilities, i demand sacrifices.

You're not a real streamer if you don't make a series of seventeen 45-minute YouTube videos with you doing laps in Oribos in the background for the entirety of it.

[Cherry123]

if the writing team doesn't change then the new expansion will be lame like Shadowlands. Why Blizzard only uses two writing methods

- Dumb villain " muhaha! you will suffer! "

- Sad character - character development = sad face


Tell Blizzard there are other character archetypes like Flynn.

[TheFirstOnes]

N'Zoth aside, It is also worth noting (incredibly important actually) that an "unknown voice" was heard whispering in Ulduar in Legion, Ulduar was the prison of the Old God of Death Yogg-Saron:



After which "Saronite clouds" spawned, Saronite being the corrupted and crystallized blood of the Old God Yogg-Saron.

So even Yogg-Saron is very likely active and biding his time, waiting to strike again. What some people ignore as usual is that the Old Gods are immortal, they can wait millennia before emerging again, and thrive in the shadows, so it is very likely that the likes of C'Thun and Yogg-Saron are also still active, working in the shadows and waiting to strike again.

As for C'Thun, the WoW comic outright has his "presence" remain as an unseen antagonistic force, he is the will guiding Cho'gall to his corpse, to resurrect it, and he is the power that deformed Cho'gall's body. But his plans were thwarted by the half draenei-orc-human Jesus.

Unseen = Nathrezim

They’re called the unseen guests multiple times, the OLD COMICS even expressed that very same notion, not to mention N’zoth clearly mentions Death and it’s influence on multiple occasions

Should’ve been pretty fucking obvious

[Hitei]

if the writing team doesn't change then the new expansion will be lame like Shadowlands. Why Blizzard only uses two writing methods

- Dumb villain " muhaha! you will suffer! "

- Sad character - character development = sad face


Tell Blizzard there are other character archetypes like Flynn.

"Tell Blizzard there are other character archetypes, like this character that Blizzard wrote last expansion."
??????

[Ersula]

Xal is still alive.

We never got a clarification that Xal was an old god, rather than a minion of the old gods. The only reason we assert that is because Chronicles features what looked like 5 old gods illustrated in the margins of the book, but that's not conclusive at all.

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The forsaken are just chilling in orgrimmar without a real leader or a home now that the undercity is full of blight.

That was resolved during BFA, with them moving back to Lordaeron with Calia & what looked like what could have been Forsaken Elf allied race.

[Hitei]

We never got a clarification that Xal was an old god, rather than a minion of the old gods. The only reason we assert that is because Chronicles features what looked like 5 old gods illustrated in the margins of the book, but that's not conclusive at all.

No, it was evidenced long before Chronicle doubled down on it. Also, it is 100% conclusive. They didn't just draw the four known old gods and then rAnDoMLy decide they were going to add in a 5th unknown one just to fill space. They also wouldn't bother adding in the line in her artifact's history specifically pointing out that one of theories of her origin is being the remnant of a old god for no reason. Or Xal'atath's line where she very clearly indicates that there used to be more than four.

Xal'atath does not speak at all like a minion of the Old Gods. She has zero respect for any of them, to the point of dismissiveness, insults, or even open hostility towards their forces. She frequently uses "us" and "we" in reference to the other Old Gods specifically, not their forces.

Everything about her suggests that she was a 5th old god destroyed at some point by the other four.

[Varodoc]

How fitting that a Goddess would take the form of a Ren'dorei, clearly no other race was fitting to hold the essence of a Deity

[Dracullus]

I guess tomorrow will be new build. Time for final stuff like flying, double legos, maybe some further catch up (like 60 or 80 renown token for alts). Btw, is ZM catch up gear in game already? I hope we will have something similar to Korthia.