Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Dioporco]

You aren't understanding what I'm saying. IT MAKES NO SENSE FOR HIM TO BE OVER CONFIDENT! He is THE GOD PLANNER who has steered our history in his favor for tens of thousands of years. He should know us better than we know ourselves. The fact that he will make such a massive, monumental blunder as this utterly annihilates any suspension of disbelief we could possibly have. It's terrible fucking writing. Just accept it.

Bad Writing since BFA nothing new

[EbaumsTipster]

So I just compiled a list of loose plot threads for upcoming expansions that have been seeded in Legion/BFA/SL and I couldn't help but notice most of them fall into three categories:

-Cataclysm 2.0: Dragons and Elements
-Light
-Void

Coincidence? I would love if all of this is 10.0, with all three being mixed into the EK/Kalimdor plots and then Dragon Isles at endgame deals with them all in a bigger way.

[Varodoc]

So I just compiled a list of loose plot threads for upcoming expansions that have been seeded in Legion/BFA/SL and I couldn't help but notice most of them fall into three categories:

-Cataclysm 2.0: Dragons and Elements
-Light
-Void

Coincidence? I would love if all of this is 10.0, with all three being mixed into the EK/Kalimdor plots and then Dragon Isles at endgame deals with them all in a bigger way.

The first and the third category are one and the same.

Cataclysm 2.0 is 100% about N'Zoth. He is the master of all the evil dragons that have ever appeared (Deathwing and his flight served him, the Void and Twilight dragons serve him, the Infinite dragons serve him, the Nightmare dragons served him via Xavius) as well as the original master of the Elementals, as one of the Old Gods. In Cataclysm, Ragnaros and the Wind Elemental were his servants.

I mean, N'Zoth is literally the orchestrator of the original Cataclysm, the being who infused Deathwing with so much power, allowing him to shatter the world itself, and wage war to usher in the dreaded Hour of Twilight. The moment you say "Cataclysm 2.0", you automatically imply N'Zoth's involvement.

The Light can be its own expansion involving the Lightbound, who at this point should contain all kinds of Lightforged creatures from the conquered Draenor.

[Dioporco]

So I just compiled a list of loose plot threads for upcoming expansions that have been seeded in Legion/BFA/SL and I couldn't help but notice most of them fall into three categories:

-Cataclysm 2.0: Dragons and Elements
-Light
-Void

Coincidence? I would love if all of this is 10.0, with all three being mixed into the EK/Kalimdor plots and then Dragon Isles at endgame deals with them all in a bigger way.

Holy shit this game is fucked then

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I think combining Cosmic + Dragon Isles AND its on Azeroth would be as disastrous as BFA was narratively.

Mainstream audiences will also be extremely overwhelmed and confused when suddenly Space Armada Yrel shows up + Xal'atath and her gang AND Wrathion tells us to swoop to the Dragon Isles.

Meanwhile its on Azeroth which will sting for those who wanted a simple Azeroth expansion.

[EbaumsTipster]

I think combining Cosmic + Dragon Isles AND its on Azeroth would be as disastrous as BFA was narratively.

Mainstream audiences will also be extremely overwhelmed and confused when suddenly Space Armada Yrel shows up + Xal'atath and her gang AND Wrathion tells us to swoop to the Dragon Isles.

Meanwhile its on Azeroth which will sting for those who wanted a simple Azeroth expansion.

Scarlets and Twilight cultists are fine for EK/Kalimdor, and then you have all the creatures like Gnolls, the Scourge remnants, Legion remnants, Botani, harpies, etc.

Then you put the bigger villains on Dragon Isles.

Muehzala would also be a good villain to use for the troll areas and can fill the area with the new troll skeletons.

[Black Rider]

I think expansion about elemental planes and about new elemental lords would be cool.

[EbaumsTipster]

I think expansion about elemental planes and about new elemental lords would be cool.

We already got that, so it will be a flip flop where we go to dragon zones that feature elementals instead of elemental zones that feature dragons (Cata)

[username993720]

So I just compiled a list of loose plot threads for upcoming expansions that have been seeded in Legion/BFA/SL and I couldn't help but notice most of them fall into three categories:

-Cataclysm 2.0: Dragons and Elements
-Light
-Void

Coincidence? I would love if all of this is 10.0, with all three being mixed into the EK/Kalimdor plots and then Dragon Isles at endgame deals with them all in a bigger way.

Yes, it's pretty obvious from the last two cinematic trailers.

[EbaumsTipster]

Yes, it's pretty obvious from the last two cinematic trailers.

What do you mean?

[Varx]

Where are the leaks??? Aren't we in leak season at this point. No copyrights filed recently??

[Makabreska]

I don't think Yrel is coming back, especially as a villian of any kind. Draenor is done with, especially after the little epilogue provided by the Maghar Orcs.

Wut? Of course she is coming back. They did set up us going against Naaru and their minions for a reason. Draenor being done with means Yrel and her squad will move on to the next target. And she is already a villain.

[EbaumsTipster]

I don't think Yrel is coming back, especially as a villian of any kind. Draenor is done with, especially after the little epilogue provided by the Maghar Orcs.

If she wasn't coming back they wouldn't have brought her back as a villain. Same as putting Turalyon on the throne. Things happen to be followed up on later.

[huth]

You aren't understanding what I'm saying. IT MAKES NO SENSE FOR HIM TO BE OVER CONFIDENT! He is THE GOD PLANNER who has steered our history in his favor for tens of thousands of years. He should know us better than we know ourselves. The fact that he will make such a massive, monumental blunder as this utterly annihilates any suspension of disbelief we could possibly have. It's terrible fucking writing. Just accept it.

He's also seen us completely fail to even inconvenience him up till now.

You don't make good plans by accounting for every single variable. You make good plans by leaving room for error and course corrections. No, he shouldn't know us better than we do. He had to make his plans long before we even entered the playing field. It's also been shown that we're something of an outside context issue to him, yet we haven't been able to be a serious obstacle so far.

I'd say he's actually quite justified in not considering us a major threat. The real question should be how he manages to lose anyway.

[Makabreska]

They said they weren't messing with WoD anymore, and I don't think they will.

When did they say that? And also it doesn't mean that they wont be using characters from there. If we go against Naaru, Yrel is 100% logical choice for the opponent.

[EbaumsTipster]

They said they weren't messing with WoD anymore, and I don't think they will.

https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/top...ion-interview/

https://www.wowhead.com/news/lore-re...-321100?page=2

We will also hear more about Yrel, who wielded the light's power to destroy Mag'har Orcs in the Allied Race unlock scenario.

One of the things we've tried to do with the Mag'har Orc storyline...we see the conflict just didn't go away between Yrel and her forces and Grommash and his Orcish forces. Clearly, there's some more story to tell there. Legion gave us some great opportunities to delve into the lore of the Light more with Xe'ra, and her interactions with Illidan, and Turalyon's POV on it, Velen's POV...I think Velen learned a lot about the light. At one point he may have been blindly devoted to that, and I think he's gotten some different perspectives. That's definitely a storyline that will be playing out.

[Foreign Exchange Ztudent]

I don't think Yrel is coming back, especially as a villian of any kind. Draenor is done with, especially after the little epilogue provided by the Maghar Orcs.

She's a strong woman antagonist character, it is obvious that Blizzard will use her at some point.

[Makabreska]

She's a strong woman antagonist character, it is obvious that Blizzard will use her at some point.

Oof, 10/10 take. And they say it's Blizzard who is obsessed with this approach.

[Lmaop]

https://www.icy-veins.com/forums/top...ion-interview/

https://www.wowhead.com/news/lore-re...-321100?page=2

Man every time i open wowhead it looks like it gonna give me 30 viruses at once, i try to avoid it as much i can

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Oof, 10/10 take. And they say it's Blizzard who is obsessed with this approach.

The paranoia and obesssion is real. Personally I'm cautiously curious.