Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[TBCCLOL]

And it's purely a faster travel system, so you're not actually missing anything without it.

there are literally 4 isle that requires fly to get there and isnt just a "faster" is basically a core stuff for outdoor and people everytime get nerfed by these dumb timegating in a montly paid game.


Warzone is free and has mobile game timegating.

And still 2022 we need to re-earn each time flying while Endwalker gives you flying at the end of the MSQ and the game got released 3 weeks ago.

[Dracullus]

I just hope people don’t expect the 10.0 announcements to be the final product

The great vault was amazing in all the previews and so were mission tables

Something wrong with the vault? Or even better question, what they promised you with vault and didn't deliver?

[TBCCLOL]

Something wrong with the vault? Or even better question, what they promised you with vault and didn't deliver?

Nothing people are mad and dont understand how math and statistic rng works plus blizzard has rock IQ to understand that getting the same GLOVES in 3 slots of GV is retard

[huth]

there are literally 4 isle that requires fly to get there and isnt just a "faster" is basically a core stuff for outdoor and people everytime get nerfed by these dumb timegating in a montly paid game.

Islands that don't actually have anything on them. The entire game is accessible without Pathfinder.

[Lahis]

Probably just bringing it into styleistic consistency with their other pages.

But I will say it's interesting that they removed the listing for starting zones it seems. Might just be because it was redundant with Capital Cities, or maybe they want to railroad everyone into Exile's Reach.

New players have no choice but to play Exile's Reach. The race pages on the website are meant for new players.

[TBCCLOL]

Islands that don't actually have anything on them. The entire game is accessible without Pathfinder.

Since nobody yet unlocked it and PTR is still raw you have literally no proof.


Accessible =\= Enjoyable and numbers shown it. Even Covenant Swap pre 9.1.5 was "accessible" and yet people did when it was "enjoyable" in 9.1.5

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People here still cannot understand the difference between

22 days of playing the game to unlock and 22 days of waiting to unlock stuff (after you complete the story chapter :^) )



Bring back the 5k per flying license (that is also a nice gold sink) and make more content that is fly-approved instead of the usual soup that gets irrelevant once you can fly.

[ExiHext]

People here still cannot understand the difference between

22 days of playing the game to unlock and 22 days of waiting to unlock stuff (after you complete the story chapter :^) )

Weird. I thought I must play the game to earn the currency to unlock stuff.

[TBCCLOL]

Weird. I thought I must play the game to earn the currency to unlock stuff.

What is weird is that you are ok to farm a new currency to unlock something you already have and behind a timegating while paying.

Is like going from France to Spain by car and once you enter Spain you have to redo all the driving license exam/lesson etc


Farmin a currency (that is not even account wide lmao) to unlock the First One alphabet and discover bits of lore each weeks? that is ok because is NEW.


Just like learning japanese before going and while in Japan

[Cosmic Janitor]

Isn't the 22 days estimate if you actually manage to chain the research? As in log in whenever the previous one is ready again? So after 18h I need to come back and immediately start it again, otherwise I lose time because I'm not a hobo or in home-office. So for most people the 26 day estimate seems rather sound.

[TBCCLOL]

Isn't the 22 days estimate if you actually manage to chain the research? As in log in whenever the previous one is ready again? So after 18h I need to come back and immediately start it again, otherwise I lose time because I'm not a hobo or in home-office. So for most people the 26 day estimate seems rather sound.

Yes you are correct, but the copium boys wanted the sugar coated version.

[Lady Atia]

Something wrong with the vault? Or even better question, what they promised you with vault and didn't deliver?

To be fair they said that you could get dungeon mounts out of it when they first showcased it. The final version didn't got that, probably because we only got one (two with Tazavesh) dungeon mount this expansion compared to BFA's 3/4.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Yes you are correct, but the copium boys wanted the sugar coated version.

There's no copium here.

[ExiHext]

What is weird is that you are ok to farm a new currency to unlock something you already have and behind a timegating while paying.

Luckily you don't have to pay for something you don't like.

[TBCCLOL]

Luckily you don't have to pay for something you don't like.

Sure since the current extra content is basically TBC and SoM once i did my hc/mythic prog ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ also the "dont pay" strat is the bottom of the barrel for copers

[Sondrelk]

I still don't get why players even need flying in Zereth Mortis anyways. The open world content is completely optional for raiders, so I don't see why players who hate it need the button to make it pointless to begin with.

[Makabreska]

I still don't get why players even need flying in Zereth Mortis anyways. The open world content is completely optional for raiders, so I don't see why players who hate it need the button to make it pointless to begin with.

Dunno, maybe it's simply because it's a big zone and flying makes life so much easier? And there are still things to do there, even if they don't give player power? You could also ask why players needed Vanilla zones flying in Cata. Odd thing to say, really.

[ExiHext]

Sure since the current extra content is basically TBC and SoM once i did my hc/mythic prog ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ also the "dont pay" strat is the bottom of the barrel for copers

...and also the only answer to a problem that isn't one.

[Ersula]

Because NPCs frequently get click text lines even if they are super minor and only part of a single thing.

Sappronetta Flivvers, for example, is only involved in a couple extremely minor quests related to Mechagon but has custom voiced lines.

But that's exactly my point. Sappronetta is minor but she is clearly someones, probably Golden's, pet character with the intent to see more of her in the future, what with this sort of mult-expansion goblin/gnome romance. You don't record new interactable character voice lines if they're planning to bench them immediately.

[AngerFork]

But that's exactly my point. Sappronetta is minor but she is clearly someones, probably Golden's, pet character with the intent to see more of her in the future, what with this sort of mult-expansion goblin/gnome romance. You don't record new interactable character voice lines if they're planning to bench them immediately.

Runas the Shamed would probably disagree with that.

[Ersula]

No timeskip, no large-scale revamp. 10.0 is dragon isles.

I personally would love a dragon-themed expansion but I can see Bellular & Taleasin covered the Dragon Isles stuff with reckless abandon. For one thing, for all we know a shop pack getting dragon concept art was just existing art left over from hearthstone. (Blizzard commissions a lot of third-party art that never gets used in an official capacity) But also they instilled a false narrative about what the Dragon Isles were:

Youtubers took Blizzard devs saying "they would love to get back to Dragons someday" and constructed it into this fiction about this Dragon Isles zone they always wanted to do but the truth is they never did Dragon Isles because they didn't have any ideas for it. Dragon Isles were an abandoned vanilla zone from before the development of WoW shifted from dungeons to quests. Early on, WoW was being developed with Everquest as its template: Lots of Dungeons, few quests. But they quickly realized people preferred questing than grinding mobs, so they realized they didn't need as many zones as were first planned. There was supposed to be a dragon raid on the dragon isles but there was no plot & that raid got repurposed into Onyxia'a Lair. The only "unused" idea for the Dragon Isles was the temple built into a rock shaped like a squid & that got reused for Temple of the Storms in BFA.

If we do get a dragon-centric expansion it would feel disingenuous to call it the "dragon Isles" expansion when the Dragon Isles were a creatively bankrupt idea in the first place.

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Runas the Shamed would probably disagree with that.

That's hardly comparable, he got a whole questline. We're talking about an NPC who already had dialog, getting entirely new clicky dialog; Two sets of canon dialog, when they're supposedly supposed to get killed off.