Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Black Rider]

Been working on looking at things again these last two days, haven't found much (except for a small connection that might be posted later) but all these fake leaks are fueling the amount of effort I put into these kind of puzzles. Guess they're good for something after all!

What's that small connection?

[Revamp Man]

10.0: Rage of the Dragons

New continent: Dragon isles
2 max level zones expanded through patches with leveling zones being zidormii old zones including
Hyjal
Dragonblight
Caverns of Time
Twilight Highlands


Threats include
Nightmare dragons
Return of galakrond
Infinite dragons
Return of chromatus

New class: Dragonsworn
4 specs
Trained by Wrathion as a vanguard to replace the weakened aspects the intro takes place throughout multiple points in time from Cata to SL where you meet the “Hero” throughout it

Black dragon abilities as a base
4 flight abilities for specs
Blue/red are ranged and melee
Green is healer
Bronze is tank

New pledge system is used to give players a feeling of artifact weapons as they level with generic bonuses every other level and class specific every 5

Level cap 70 with a long awaited talent row

[Sondrelk]

I still can't see why Blizzard would undo the main benefit of squishing the number of levels back to 60 by immediately making the new max level 70 the next expansion. Especially since this would logically mean new players would need to go through Shadowlands content to get to max level after hitting level 50.
Seems to me like the easier way to go forward is to place Shadowlands content into the same Chromie time framework as the other expansions, and then make the next expansions levelling the same 50-60 we had In this expansion.

[Ersula]

I still can't see why Blizzard would undo the main benefit of squishing the number of levels back to 60 by immediately making the new max level 70 the next expansion. Especially since this would logically mean new players would need to go through Shadowlands content to get to max level after hitting level 50.
Seems to me like the easier way to go forward is to place Shadowlands content into the same Chromie time framework as the other expansions, and then make the next expansions levelling the same 50-60 we had In this expansion.

a.) having the re-squish the levels every ten years is probably the plan. Ten years is a lot of time. Or perhaps they realize they don't need to do 10 levels every expansion. A new expansion could just be level 60 to 61 & it wouldn't be any different.
b.) you're forgetting the *detect your personal journey & tailor the quest to it* part of Bastion. Shadowlands was based on you have doing timewalking before it.
c.) they might change their minds after getting feedback but clearly Danuser is super proud of BFA & Shadowlands & they were super-amped to force new players to play through both before whatever comes in 10.0. I would have said typically the consequences of the previous expansion sets up the premise of the next expansion, but that doesn't seem to be the case for 10.0

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10.0: Rage of the Dragons

While I'm all for a dragon class, who's humanoid form can be any race of your choosing: Why does everyone suggest it would be named some new dragon term, like "Dragonsworn" or "Dragon Knight." Wouldn't the class name be an already existing term, like "Dragonflight" or "Dragon Aspect"

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Wait I just rewatched this and I really can't find anything that says that Lordaeron city has been rebuilt, am I missing something? Or are you talking about the Tirisfal Glades as a whole? AFAIK, the eastern part including Deathkneel and Calson State was never damaged in the alliance siege or by the blight, so they have remained forsaken holdings all along.

canonically nobody actually lived in the city or the undercity. They lived in Brill.

[Makabreska]

a.)While I'm all for a dragon class, who's humanoid form can be any race of your choosing: Why does everyone suggest it would be named some new dragon term, like "Dragonsworn" or "Dragon Knight." Wouldn't the class name be an already existing term, like "Dragonflight" or "Dragon Aspect"

No, because these names already mean something different. Dragonflight is a general term for all dragon kind of certain color and Aspects are their leaders. It's kinda obvious.

[Khaza-R]

I still can't see why Blizzard would undo the main benefit of squishing the number of levels back to 60 by immediately making the new max level 70 the next expansion. Especially since this would logically mean new players would need to go through Shadowlands content to get to max level after hitting level 50.
Seems to me like the easier way to go forward is to place Shadowlands content into the same Chromie time framework as the other expansions, and then make the next expansions levelling the same 50-60 we had In this expansion.

What your advocating isn't squishing though. That would just be flat out reverting everyone's level to 50 which would cause hysteria.

As for new players, they will undoubtedly have to go through Shadowlands after BfA. Although I imagine it will be significantly sped up. The point of re-doing the starting experience for new players was just to modernize it so they didn't have to get funneled through 15 year old content.

[Nyel]

What 10.0 will be about:

- another borrowed power system(s)
- another 5 leveling areas
- another final raid
- another set of dungeons

what 10.0 will not be about

- systems that matter
- rewards outside of raids, dungeons and pvp that matter for character progression
- fun open world content
- fair pvp
- a good crafting system with progression from world content, without the need to play "everything"
- a focus on what players want (narrow progression pathes instead of "play-it-all")
- no raid focus

I can just guarantee you one thing 10.0 won't contain: a world revamp.

[uzira]

I can just guarantee you one thing 10.0 won't contain: a world revamp.

Do u know someone who works at blizzard?

[Revamp Man]

a.) having the re-squish the levels every ten years is probably the plan. Ten years is a lot of time. Or perhaps they realize they don't need to do 10 levels every expansion. A new expansion could just be level 60 to 61 & it wouldn't be any different.
b.) you're forgetting the *detect your personal journey & tailor the quest to it* part of Bastion. Shadowlands was based on you have doing timewalking before it.
c.) they might change their minds after getting feedback but clearly Danuser is super proud of BFA & Shadowlands & they were super-amped to force new players to play through both before whatever comes in 10.0. I would have said typically the consequences of the previous expansion sets up the premise of the next expansion, but that doesn't seem to be the case for 10.0

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While I'm all for a dragon class, who's humanoid form can be any race of your choosing: Why does everyone suggest it would be named some new dragon term, like "Dragonsworn" or "Dragon Knight." Wouldn't the class name be an already existing term, like "Dragonflight" or "Dragon Aspect".

Because dragonsworn is already a title in the game

I don’t see a dragon model being used but maybe drakonid in a similar fashion to meta for DH

Some people don’t understand what the difference between a class and a race is anymore

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Do u know someone who works at blizzard?

A world revamp is something that they literally never have to do now because of phasing tech

[Nyel]

Do u know someone who works at blizzard?

No, but I have a realistic view on the last years of WoW's development and the company Blizzard is / has become.

[Revamp Man]

I still can't see why Blizzard would undo the main benefit of squishing the number of levels back to 60 by immediately making the new max level 70 the next expansion. Especially since this would logically mean new players would need to go through Shadowlands content to get to max level after hitting level 50.
Seems to me like the easier way to go forward is to place Shadowlands content into the same Chromie time framework as the other expansions, and then make the next expansions levelling the same 50-60 we had In this expansion.

Iirc they said that leveling would require the previous expansion only for new players then it would be the new content

So if I started in 10.0 I would just have to do SL content for 1-60 which personally is pretty good because you get tossed so many side quests and rares that you hit 60 currently before you even finish the story

[Ersula]

Some people don’t understand what the difference between a class and a race is anymore

But dragons make more sense as a class than a race, from a gameplay perspective, because they have a humanoid form. Your "race" is your disguise. I know size is an issue, perhaps they only turn into their dragon form, in flight, during a cd: Much like priest's spirit of redemption. Canonically, Drakonoids, Drakes & Dragonsworn can't turn into the humanoid races.

[Revamp Man]

But dragons make more sense as a class than a race, from a gameplay perspective, because they have a humanoid form. Your "race" is your disguise. I know size is an issue, perhaps they only turn into their dragon form, in flight, during a cd: Much like priest's spirit of redemption. Canonically, Drakonoids, Drakes & Dragonsworn can't turn into the humanoid races.

Because dragons are a race and would work better as a worgen style race that has the dragon form as a mount

We have mortals who have been gifted powers from dragons and other sources granting them power which is a majority of the classes

If you want a transformation then it’s more likely to be a drakonid style because canonically they are the results of dragons and mortals supposedly the first dragonsworn and it would be similar to the demon hunter

[Shadochi]

Been working on looking at things again these last two days, haven't found much (except for a small connection that might be posted later) but all these fake leaks are fueling the amount of effort I put into these kind of puzzles. Guess they're good for something after all!

Feels good coming back from a hiatus and one of the recent posts I see in this thread being from the parrot himself

[Marlamin]

What's that small connection?

https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...t-Pet-Wearable

Basically, the "drakemountemerald" buff I posted about many many pages ago seems to be connected to the things encrypted under that key and is very similar to how the Shadowlands Deluxe bundle was encrypted. Nothing is certain due to encryption, but signs point to that being the 10.0 Deluxe shop bundle.

I'm still looking at things but not sure there's much more to find. Keeping at it, though!

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

And here.... we.... go.

Drakemountemerald buff, and something sharing 34 animations with Vulpera Male.

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Also much as I'd hate to say it after Blizz talked about "grounded" seeing Emerald Drake Mount screams "WoW: Lifelands."

[Super Dickmann]

Soft confirmation of Dragon Isles. I don't give two shits about Dragons, but the last Dragon expansion had a horrible main plot and a solid side-story in terms of worldbuilding and old world advancement, while having meh gameplay. Hopefully the new one keeps the first part, but not the second. Then again it'd be hard to top Dragon Soul in terms of worst end raid.

[Slowpoke is a Gamer]

Soft confirmation of Dragon Isles. I don't give two shits about Dragons, but the last Dragon expansion had a horrible main plot and a solid side-story in terms of worldbuilding and old world advancement, while having meh gameplay. Hopefully the new one keeps the first part, but not the second. Then again it'd be hard to top Dragon Soul in terms of worst end raid.

If it were just a dragon I'd say Dragon Isles. But it indicates Emerald, AKA Emerald Dream, AKA Life.

Combined with all the Elune stuff we've gotten through the shop lately.

It's Lifelands, "grounded" was a lie.

[Super Dickmann]

If it were just a dragon I'd say Dragon Isles. But it indicates Emerald, AKA Emerald Dream, AKA Life.

Combined with all the Elune stuff we've gotten through the shop lately.

It's Lifelands, "grounded" was a lie.

Applying that logic would leave you with the conclusion that Legion or BFA's early zones were ungrounded because of new nightmare or faceless model strings.

[Sondrelk]

Iirc they said that leveling would require the previous expansion only for new players then it would be the new content

So if I started in 10.0 I would just have to do SL content for 1-60 which personally is pretty good because you get tossed so many side quests and rares that you hit 60 currently before you even finish the story

While that is an option I feel reverting levels to 50 again feels like a better option, mostly because it removes the strict requirement to justify another 10 levels of stuff, which is exactly the reason we had the squish to begin with, levels being meaningless as individual ones meant nothing for player power.

If the reason to go to level 70 is just to prevent complaints of losing levels then I think the complaints of Shadowlands being faster to level through after 10.0 releases would be about the same, so on a sense it's down to which option Blizzard wants to go for.