Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Ersula]

My current guess for the next expansion... The Emerald Dream. It has a long history with Azeroth and WoW, is arguably "on Azeroth" in a way, or at least more connected to it, and would be a sort of 'opposite' of the Shadowlands.

The Winter Queen already said that they are "opposite ends of the same branch" so the Emerald Dream must be where souls originate. They made a copy of Azeroth there, but that doesn't necessarily mean it the dream as a plane of existence didn't exist before that. That's why I'm pretty sure the Emerald Dream *is* the "Lifelands".

Otherwise we have both a "lifelands" AND "the emerald dream" and neither are where life actually originated; that would be zareth mortis, as said by the Devs in the preview.

Anyone else starting to feel like Shadowlands lore contradicts itself?

[Teriz]

Also is the Dragon Isles the only zone remaining that had some work done during Vanilla development but was scrapped/never released/expanded upon. I guess there was Emerald Dream zones but we did get Emerald Nightmare (still emerald dream might be possible again). I also remember Outlands had some development done during the original launch and a few other zones had some references in files IIRC but were eventually released.

Undermine was a planned continent in Vanilla underneath the island of Kezan, but was scrapped because of time and resources. After Cataclysm, Blizzard devs stated that they planned at some point to bring Undermine into the game alongside more Goblin holdings on the surface of Kezan. They've kept the latter part of their promise with Crappolis and the MotherLODE during BFA. We're still waiting for Undermine itself.

At BlizzCon 2010, Alex Afrasiabi said that the goblin starting zone was only "a small segment of the actual whole' of Kezan", and that the goblins "did want to go back to Undermine and the other goblin land holdings, just a question of when."[30]

https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Undermine
https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Kezan
https://www.engadget.com/2011-08-07-...-pandaria.html

[Makabreska]

It's silly to keep squishing

Have a final level .. if it's 70, then start a new system, that doesn't do it in numbers, or does, but different types of numbers - and that's your nex xp and level. so you would always be level 70 at max level.



When a enw expansion comes out, the old expansion gets counted in the 1-60 climb, and the new expansion gets a new system of progression etc etc.

But why do this? Why replace a tried and true staple of every RPG game that is leveling in favor of yet another game system that will be more convoluted that what we already have? Blizz squished three times already, they wont have issues in doing it again in the future.

Who said that Zan?(The "Anybody worried about the game is part of the problem without my sytems you wouldn't even have a game." Or is that...fake

Wut?

[Black Rider]

what were allied race hints the last time, an entry in the 'race register'?

34 animations are shared with vulperas - does that mean all of them? are other animations (if such exist) related to something, or are they unknown?



right, Maloriak. old tall (not exactly buff) drakonids.
this time, made cute.
would've hated it this way or another, but making random guesses is fun.

This mentioned
https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/2613054-10-0-Leak
Works like Worgen, customize your dragon form and humanoid appearances. Humanoid can be any race, including allied races. Extra customization options for humanoid form including horns, tails, jewelry, scales as well as effects like burning eyes and “molten blood” which is a cool new effect.

Maybe it's connected

[Makabreska]

"I was a dev on WoW until just last week - I've been with Blizz for over a decade and I've ALWAYS wanted to do this... here is the next expansion."

I have a great deal on bridges if you're interested.

It's like these people don't realize they instantly nuke their credibility when they start leaks like this.

[LordKharon]

But why do this? Why replace a tried and true staple of every RPG game that is leveling in favor of yet another game system that will be more convoluted that what we already have? Blizz squished three times already, they wont have issues of doing it again in the future.

Shadowlands will be "demoted" to 1-50 alongside all other old expansions and the new expansion will be 50-60 again. On top of that you get a new borrowed power system as usual. They should have good enough scaling tech by now to do this for all expansions going forward. Sure its confusiong for new players but that will not change unless Blizz does a completely new 1-50 leveling experience as a kind of standard leveling arc that does not care about all the stories that happend in all the expansions.

[ExiHext]

Wut?

I guess that's a VERY out of context quotation of this tweet from last year:


Sorry I still don't get how to post pictures directly.

[Beloren]

But why do this? Why replace a tried and true staple of every RPG game that is leveling in favor of yet another game system that will be more convoluted that what we already have? Blizz squished three times already, they wont have issues in doing it again in the future.

Because after a while it becomemeaninglesss, I don't think any other mmo has gone on for this long with still another 10 years or at least 5-10 expansions in it, youcan't just keep raising the level. At some point in time, max level is just getting to the end of any previous old content.

And from then on you now have a new type of stystem to progres in the current expansion.

if you think about it, it's not that daunting.. it's still levelling, just a differnet way of calling it.

[Makabreska]

Because after a while it becomemeaninglesss, I don't think any other mmo has gone on for this long with still another 10 years or at least 5-10 expansions in it, youcan't just keep raising the level. At some point in time, max level is just getting to the end of any previous old content.

And from then on you now have a new type of stystem to progres in the current expansion.

if you think about it, it's not that daunting.. it's still levelling, just a differnet way of calling it.

I mean, leveling was never really meaningful in WoW. It was much easier than in competition and the real game started at max lvl.

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I guess that's a VERY out of context quotation of this tweet from last year:
https://imgur.com/a/oJpLNpe

Sorry I still don't get how to post pictures directly.

You have to wrap the Imgur link with Insert Image button in reply.

[Shadochi]

Im starting to think #Teamworldrevamp is never gonna get its day.

Dont lose faith brother, we will find what we are looking for

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Seems like over the weekend the leak amount has really sped up

[Makabreska]

Seems like over the weekend the leak amount has really sped up

Ye, they are going crazy right now.

[Raetary]

Seems like over the weekend the leak amount has really sped up

Leak season is in full force.

[Frood]

The "No other animations have both an "Enter" and a "Leave" state which might mean they play when a model enters, stays in and leaves a certain area." part on the forntpage is my educated guess.

Super wild speculation based on the first "Proximity" animations was that there might be some sort of rift like the Torghast rift to go through, with the context of the new "time of day" anims, one might speculate they have an animation of Azeroth behind the rift that has a very quick "time of day" animation to show that time goes faster on Azeroth compared to the Shadowlands, but that is extreme speculation that I pulled out of thin air.

I remember something about seamless rifts in some of the Shadowlands leaks from long ago. We know by now that Riftlands was BS, but would be really cool with rifts that show a "live" preview of the zone they lead to, especially with something like accelerated night/day animations.

[ExiHext]

You have to wrap the Imgur link with Insert Image button in reply.

I've found the problem...the imgur link must contain .jpeg or .png at the end...which they usually don't do for me. I either have to open the imgur link with a right click or add the suffix manually, but thanks for your help.

[Makabreska]

I've found the problem...the imgur link must contain .jpeg or .png at the end...which they usually don't do for me. I either have to open the imgur link with a right click or add the suffix manually, but thanks for your help.

Or just pick BBCode from share tab after uploading

[LordKharon]

Seems like over the weekend the leak amount has really sped up

Feels like FOMO to me, everybody has to do their "leak" first or they think they will be ignored. I think 10.0 reveal will be after 9.2 story conclusion, so maybe around march/april?

[Shadochi]

Feels like FOMO to me, everybody has to do their fanfics first or they think they will be ignored. I think 10.0 reveal will be after 9.2 story conclusion, so maybe around march/april?

Yeah I agree with you.

A couple days after the last 3 bosses release on Heroic seems possible to me, once we get the whole conclusion and cinematics, even tho in the past they did sometimes reveal the expansion before the conclusion of the final major patch I think this one is too close for them to risk spoiling the end.

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One thing I wish for them to do is with the increasing amount of expansion in Timewalking just make it not tied to the Weekly Event system like it is currently but instead place all expansions on a separate schedule where they rotate every week or 2 weeks unrelated to the other events.

[Osmeric]

Since when does creating a horrible game maximize profits?

If there are enough players that will buy your shit and like it, then it can be best to make the cheapest shit you can.

[Marlamin]

I remember something about seamless rifts in some of the Shadowlands leaks from long ago. We know by now that Riftlands was BS, but would be really cool with rifts that show a "live" preview of the zone they lead to, especially with something like accelerated night/day animations.

Seamless transitions between maps was something they were testing in SL beta, yeah. A lighter version of it without inter-map/inter-instance teleports was used in Torghast but wasn't what they actually tested.

[Wharren]

Would it be possible if the “living world” testing has to do with being able to actually fly to the different expansion continents? Besides the dimension ones.

Like flying from EK to Northrend.