Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[AOL Instant Messenger]

One thing I'd say about the crack is it could be there if Azeroth is waking up but I agree that it looks exactly like the Cata one.

That's probably what the creator of the logo wanted it to suggest. However, the exact similarity is what makes me figure it's fake—it also does seem odd that the logo maker, who is clearly very talented, would both to copy an asset from an older expansion logo if they simply could have drawn a new one. They either may have gotten lazy, gotten too specific with the reference in trying to make it look as precise as possible, or they wanted to deliberately have a sort of "signature" to prove it's fake later down the line.

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Huh, interesting how that one is still being updated in patches

I maintain it's for a flashback sequence to the Aspects fighting Galakrond. It could be a Caverns of Time raid, but I figure that another dungeon set in Dragonblight would be too much reuse of assets after Dragon Soul, Hour of Twilight and End Time all used Dragonblight as a staging ground. We also haven't seen a Caverns of Time in a very long while, but that could simply be chalked up to the lack of need for it—a Dragon expansion would be the perfect time to reintroduce them.

[Aeluron Lightsong]

Huh, interesting how that one is still being updated in patches

Yeah... suspicious

I maintain it's for a flashback sequence to the Aspects fighting Galakrond.

Probably the minimum I'd accept.

[Revamp Man]

Looks very good, but very obviously fake. For one, it seem to have the same crack as the one on the Cataclysm expansion logo, albeit the planet is rotated. The border is very original and interesting, though, as is the border of the title. It is a very nice-looking logo, and it would be excellent if Blizzard started using logos more creative like this, but we know their general logo formula looks very particular. Unless they suddenly change with 10.0 (which seems to be an oddly recurring theme in fake leaks and logos thus far), this is visibly only a very excellent fanmade logo.

Once again, it is extraordinarily pretty, though.

The crack is nothing like Cata
Cata is smaller and the crack is wider
The ring is also broken in Cata

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Not seeing the resemblance of the crack

[AOL Instant Messenger]

The crack is nothing like Cata
Cata is smaller and the crack is wider
The ring is also broken in Cata

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Not seeing the resemblance of the crack

Looking closer, there are more differences than I thought. It has two, differently-shaped smaller cracks emerging from it, as opposed to a single one like Cataclysm. It is also smoother and tapers off more quickly. The bit where it gets less horizontal is also only on one side for Cataclysm, but is on two for the other logo.

[Marlamin]

Huh, interesting how that one is still being updated in patches

Don't attach any value to that, that's just when I trigger updates and something along the line has changed, doesn't even necessarily have to be Blizzard changing things. In all likelihood the map hasn't been changed much/at all since it was added.

[Shadochi]

Don't attach any value to that, that's just when I trigger updates and something along the line has changed, doesn't even necessarily have to be Blizzard changing things. In all likelihood the map hasn't been changed much/at all since it was added.

Ah, then what I thought of it when I first saw it could be true that it was initially intended for the Azerite Essence questline related to the aspects

[leothar]

Surprised this one wasn't posted yet. They say it's from some discord group.

If this is fake it has to be one of the best fakes ever made. It really does look like a legit WoW logo. The border textures are very unique but follows the same style (just compare it to the other logos) and it has so many small details. It's obviously void vs light themed as well with all the voidy stars in the background and the shining light beams on the bottom text.

And whoever made this understands colors very well. I honestly can't find any flaws with it.

That said it could still just be that someone took the time to make a really good fake. Does anyone know where it's from?

Edit: Someone pointed out that both BFA and SL logos are actually properly 3D rendered, and this one does not look to be made the same way. That means it's probably fake. Still, an extremely good attempt.

[Khaza-R]

Isn't this related to one of the many "Northrend global warming" leaks from the previous season of people speculating a northrend revamp and LK2.0

Was it? I don't remember ever finding a source for it. But I could be wrong.

[BlizzardLeak]

They're not going to announce an expansion Empire of Dragons (EoD) the year GW2 releases their expansion End of Dragons (EoD).

[Revamp Man]

That logo really seems legit the more I look at it. Everything about it is new. Even the choice to use void colors for a dragon expansion is a choice.

Twilight flight

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They're not going to announce an expansion Empire of Dragons (EoD) the year GW2 releases their expansion End of Dragons (EoD).

Exactly what they want us to think

[EluneExpansion]

I am not a Blizzard employee and I won’t risk saying what the position the person who told me this has. I don’t know the name of the expansion, its announcement date or release date.

The next expansion is focused on a now actively antagonistic Elune (likely corrupted - the goal is to help fix her, not kill her) changing history in the Kaldorei Empire. This is an actual time travel expansion and is actually set in our reality, not an AU, and is planned to lead to a soft reboot of the lore. The new landmass/dimension is called Eldre’thalas (the old name for Dire Maul is being repurposed as the name for the Kaldorei Empire). It is not the entirety of Ancient Kalimdor, just a section of it. There are eight dungeons at launch, two for each zone. The first raid is the savannah capital of the anshiir (lion/cat race).

The main enemy is Elune’s Moonforged forces. Minor enemies include the Nightmare (a subsection of Elune’s forces now – Light themed), the Infinite Dragonflight, a breakaway Silithid hive and an empire of Anshiir. Main characters in this expansion that we’ve already met before are Tyrande (main timeline Tyrande is a friend while past Tyrande is an antagonist), Kaldorei Queen Azshara, Ysera, Malfurion, and Illidan.

The main city is Zin’Azshari and it is neutral to both factions. It is located at the eastern reach of the continent. Apparently none of the Legion zones are here (Suramar/Val’sharah/Azsuna) since they’d look too similar in this timeline. The few zones that we’ve seen before (Nazjatar, parts of Kalimdor) look even more different than the Draenor zones did compared to Outland.

New allied races based on extinct or critically endangered races found in the past. All of the allied races are neutral and can pick either faction. The ones I know about are dark trolls (they now look more like savage night elves with tusks), anshiir (a cat race with both ‘furry’ and humanoid versions playable - both count as the same race), titanborne (large stone people that are like bulkier vrykul) and potamu (Indian-inspired rhino-like race). There are less planned for 10.0 than were in BFA and I don’t know how many will actually be available at launch. There’s also minor new class customization in the vein of the green fire warlock stuff.

The main new advancement system is companions. You pick from one of five possible companions who you level up through different tasks and by collecting a new currency to spend on them. They each have their own skill tree which powers you up through them. They also join you in combat out in the world (NOT in instances). You have to gear your companion the same way you gear yourself. To others they appear as a no-name of the same general theme. The options are the Stormrage Brothers (as far as gear goes, they’re the same person), an honorbound exiled potamu warrior, a cured moonforged Titanborne, a highborne warlock lord, and dark troll “proto-monk.”

There are no Dragon Isles at launch, nor is there a big Light presence (outside of the Light being the likely force behind Elune’s actions).

I won’t answer any questions until after the official announcement.

[Revamp Man]

I am not a Blizzard employee and I won’t risk saying what the position the person who told me this has. I don’t know the name of the expansion, its announcement date or release date.

The next expansion is focused on a now actively antagonistic Elune (likely corrupted - the goal is to help fix her, not kill her) changing history in the Kaldorei Empire. This is an actual time travel expansion and is actually set in our reality, not an AU, and is planned to lead to a soft reboot of the lore. The new landmass/dimension is called Eldre’thalas (the old name for Dire Maul is being repurposed as the name for the Kaldorei Empire). It is not the entirety of Ancient Kalimdor, just a section of it. There are eight dungeons at launch, two for each zone. The first raid is the savannah capital of the anshiir (lion/cat race).

The main enemy is Elune’s Moonforged forces. Minor enemies include the Nightmare (a subsection of Elune’s forces now – Light themed), the Infinite Dragonflight, a breakaway Silithid hive and an empire of Anshiir. Main characters in this expansion that we’ve already met before are Tyrande (main timeline Tyrande is a friend while past Tyrande is an antagonist), Kaldorei Queen Azshara, Ysera, Malfurion, and Illidan.

The main city is Zin’Azshari and it is neutral to both factions. It is located at the eastern reach of the continent. Apparently none of the Legion zones are here (Suramar/Val’sharah/Azsuna) since they’d look too similar in this timeline. The few zones that we’ve seen before (Nazjatar, parts of Kalimdor) look even more different than the Draenor zones did compared to Outland.

New allied races based on extinct or critically endangered races found in the past. All of the allied races are neutral and can pick either faction. The ones I know about are dark trolls (they now look more like savage night elves with tusks), anshiir (a cat race with both ‘furry’ and humanoid versions playable - both count as the same race), titanborne (large stone people that are like bulkier vrykul) and potamu (Indian-inspired rhino-like race). There are less planned for 10.0 than were in BFA and I don’t know how many will actually be available at launch. There’s also minor new class customization in the vein of the green fire warlock stuff.

The main new advancement system is companions. You pick from one of five possible companions who you level up through different tasks and by collecting a new currency to spend on them. They each have their own skill tree which powers you up through them. They also join you in combat out in the world (NOT in instances). You have to gear your companion the same way you gear yourself. To others they appear as a no-name of the same general theme. The options are the Stormrage Brothers (as far as gear goes, they’re the same person), an honorbound exiled potamu warrior, a cured moonforged Titanborne, a highborne warlock lord, and dark troll “proto-monk.”

There are no Dragon Isles at launch, nor is there a big Light presence (outside of the Light being the likely force behind Elune’s actions).

I won’t answer any questions until after the official announcement.

You killed it in the first paragraph

[Cherry123]

with all the dragon crap people forgot about the past hype about cross faction.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

I am not a Blizzard employee and I won’t risk saying what the position the person who told me this has. I don’t know the name of the expansion, its announcement date or release date.

The next expansion is focused on a now actively antagonistic Elune (likely corrupted - the goal is to help fix her, not kill her) changing history in the Kaldorei Empire. This is an actual time travel expansion and is actually set in our reality, not an AU, and is planned to lead to a soft reboot of the lore. The new landmass/dimension is called Eldre’thalas (the old name for Dire Maul is being repurposed as the name for the Kaldorei Empire). It is not the entirety of Ancient Kalimdor, just a section of it. There are eight dungeons at launch, two for each zone. The first raid is the savannah capital of the anshiir (lion/cat race).

The main enemy is Elune’s Moonforged forces. Minor enemies include the Nightmare (a subsection of Elune’s forces now – Light themed), the Infinite Dragonflight, a breakaway Silithid hive and an empire of Anshiir. Main characters in this expansion that we’ve already met before are Tyrande (main timeline Tyrande is a friend while past Tyrande is an antagonist), Kaldorei Queen Azshara, Ysera, Malfurion, and Illidan.

The main city is Zin’Azshari and it is neutral to both factions. It is located at the eastern reach of the continent. Apparently none of the Legion zones are here (Suramar/Val’sharah/Azsuna) since they’d look too similar in this timeline. The few zones that we’ve seen before (Nazjatar, parts of Kalimdor) look even more different than the Draenor zones did compared to Outland.

New allied races based on extinct or critically endangered races found in the past. All of the allied races are neutral and can pick either faction. The ones I know about are dark trolls (they now look more like savage night elves with tusks), anshiir (a cat race with both ‘furry’ and humanoid versions playable - both count as the same race), titanborne (large stone people that are like bulkier vrykul) and potamu (Indian-inspired rhino-like race). There are less planned for 10.0 than were in BFA and I don’t know how many will actually be available at launch. There’s also minor new class customization in the vein of the green fire warlock stuff.

The main new advancement system is companions. You pick from one of five possible companions who you level up through different tasks and by collecting a new currency to spend on them. They each have their own skill tree which powers you up through them. They also join you in combat out in the world (NOT in instances). You have to gear your companion the same way you gear yourself. To others they appear as a no-name of the same general theme. The options are the Stormrage Brothers (as far as gear goes, they’re the same person), an honorbound exiled potamu warrior, a cured moonforged Titanborne, a highborne warlock lord, and dark troll “proto-monk.”

There are no Dragon Isles at launch, nor is there a big Light presence (outside of the Light being the likely force behind Elune’s actions).

I won’t answer any questions until after the official announcement.

Eh, seems interesting, but I can't swallow the "soft reboot" deal.

[Kiivar86]

The few zones that we’ve seen before (Nazjatar, parts of Kalimdor) look even more different than the Draenor zones did compared to Outland.

I mean, Nazjatar is almost completely underwater aesthetic, if the area is used in some time traveling of course it'd look different.

Anyway eh I doubt it.

That Empire of Dragons logo kinda ignited a fire in me though, won't lie.

[Revamp Man]

It actually makes sense with some info that came out super recently. If you follow Red Shirt Guy on twitter he managed to confirm that a lot of post Legion story with Sylvanas and how BFA/SL went was Afrasiabi burning down the house as he was being pushed out and Danuser was apparently trying to fix it with the Sylvanas redemption. It hasn't been the best so far obviously but it would give some reasoning behind saying Jailer was book 1 and why things like BFA cinematic Sylvanas doesnt match in game BFA Sylvanas at all. Plus if it's a soft reboot that would mean the 10th expansion, 11.0, would be free to do it's own thing.

That said Im 99% sure that leak is fake just that it makes more sense than you'd initially think for it to be a soft reboot.

If Sylvanas is removed from the story and spends time in the maw where there’s a time difference so she can disappear for 10.0 and come back in 11.0 completely changed

[Harbour]

I am not a Blizzard employee and I won’t risk saying what the position the person who told me this has. I don’t know the name of the expansion, its announcement date or release date.

The next expansion is focused on a now actively antagonistic Elune (likely corrupted - the goal is to help fix her, not kill her) changing history in the Kaldorei Empire. This is an actual time travel expansion and is actually set in our reality, not an AU, and is planned to lead to a soft reboot of the lore. The new landmass/dimension is called Eldre’thalas (the old name for Dire Maul is being repurposed as the name for the Kaldorei Empire). It is not the entirety of Ancient Kalimdor, just a section of it. There are eight dungeons at launch, two for each zone. The first raid is the savannah capital of the anshiir (lion/cat race).

The main enemy is Elune’s Moonforged forces. Minor enemies include the Nightmare (a subsection of Elune’s forces now – Light themed), the Infinite Dragonflight, a breakaway Silithid hive and an empire of Anshiir. Main characters in this expansion that we’ve already met before are Tyrande (main timeline Tyrande is a friend while past Tyrande is an antagonist), Kaldorei Queen Azshara, Ysera, Malfurion, and Illidan.

The main city is Zin’Azshari and it is neutral to both factions. It is located at the eastern reach of the continent. Apparently none of the Legion zones are here (Suramar/Val’sharah/Azsuna) since they’d look too similar in this timeline. The few zones that we’ve seen before (Nazjatar, parts of Kalimdor) look even more different than the Draenor zones did compared to Outland.

New allied races based on extinct or critically endangered races found in the past. All of the allied races are neutral and can pick either faction. The ones I know about are dark trolls (they now look more like savage night elves with tusks), anshiir (a cat race with both ‘furry’ and humanoid versions playable - both count as the same race), titanborne (large stone people that are like bulkier vrykul) and potamu (Indian-inspired rhino-like race). There are less planned for 10.0 than were in BFA and I don’t know how many will actually be available at launch. There’s also minor new class customization in the vein of the green fire warlock stuff.

The main new advancement system is companions. You pick from one of five possible companions who you level up through different tasks and by collecting a new currency to spend on them. They each have their own skill tree which powers you up through them. They also join you in combat out in the world (NOT in instances). You have to gear your companion the same way you gear yourself. To others they appear as a no-name of the same general theme. The options are the Stormrage Brothers (as far as gear goes, they’re the same person), an honorbound exiled potamu warrior, a cured moonforged Titanborne, a highborne warlock lord, and dark troll “proto-monk.”

There are no Dragon Isles at launch, nor is there a big Light presence (outside of the Light being the likely force behind Elune’s actions).

I won’t answer any questions until after the official announcement.

It honestly sounds extremely niche and leveling companion as a system completely kills my hype. I played all expansions except for MoP and i wont play this one certainly if its legit.
But its 100% fake given the reason above.
No one in their sanity will bring on the setting vastly detached from most known plot lines, especially after Shadowlands.
Elune hype was killed by Shadowlands, Illidan and Co being reused is waste of time, and nothing in this story fits the already built up lore (Light, Void, Dragon Isles).
And allied races list outside cat people sound unispiring.
And leveling companion instead of the player character itself would trigger the fanbase in rage.
Pretty terrible and fake'ish larping.

[AOL Instant Messenger]

It actually makes sense with some info that came out super recently. If you follow Red Shirt Guy on twitter he managed to confirm that a lot of post Legion story with Sylvanas and how BFA/SL went was Afrasiabi burning down the house as he was being pushed out and Danuser was apparently trying to fix it with the Sylvanas redemption. It hasn't been the best so far obviously but it would give some reasoning behind saying Jailer was book 1 and why things like BFA cinematic Sylvanas doesnt match in game BFA Sylvanas at all. Plus if it's a soft reboot that would mean the 10th expansion, 11.0, would be free to do it's own thing.

That said Im 99% sure that leak is fake just that it makes more sense than you'd initially think for it to be a soft reboot.

That's kind of funny—a million and one years of folks blaming Danuser for everything bad that's ever happened, and yet it's actually Afrasiabi who was responsible for some of this if this is true. Could you give me the link for confirmation?

And, of course, not be a skeptic but I'm sure it would behoove some folks to blame Afrasiabi, so we may want to take this with a grain of salt if it was said by Danny in particular. Afrasiabi strikes me as the kind of guy to do this, and it would be a very good sign for the future of the game if it was just him, but it would also be very easy to pin every unpopular decision on the evil guy no one likes anymore.

[Revamp Man]

That's kind of funny—a million and one years of folks blaming Danuser for everything bad that's ever happened, and yet it's actually Afrasiabi who was responsible for some of this if this is true. Could you give me the link for confirmation?

And, of course, not be a skeptic but I'm sure it would behoove some folks to blame Afrasiabi, so we may want to take this with a grain of salt if it was said by Danny in particular. Afrasiabi strikes me as the kind of guy to do this, and it would be a very good sign for the future of the game if it was just him, but it would also be very easy to pin every unpopular decision on the evil guy no one likes anymore.

It was stated by Alleria’s hearthstone VO

[AOL Instant Messenger]

It was stated by Alleria’s hearthstone VO

Ah, if that's the case, less bias I suppose.

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https://twitter.com/TheRedShirtGuy/s...qEWEydAZg&s=19


Here's the update thread with the sources listed as well as the original thread where he talked about it originally.

Assuming truth, this is a pretty big development. And thankful, too, since it means Danuser isn't as incompetent as we thought.