1. #19421
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadochi View Post
    I believe it was a trademark that sparked people searching for the page on the site, and then it would redirect back to home instead of appearing as a regular 404 page if it didn't exist
    Yeah it was something like that. I remember the moment someone first posted it and everyone was flipping out. I wonder if we could discover 10.0 the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    Yeah it was something like that. I remember the moment someone first posted it and everyone was flipping out. I wonder if we could discover 10.0 the same way.
    Yeah, the initial leak was posted in the morning (EU time) on Blizzcon day by an account called War Never Changes or something like that, then a bit after noon a TM got registered and everyone went nuts in the hours leading to the Announcement
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  3. #19423
    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    Oh yeah there it is lol. I am wondering how that even slipped by them.
    Probably scheduling conflicts or something. It might have been filmed with the intention that it would be released after the announcement.
    Or maybe it was intentional, who knows. It's hard to discount the value you get from a well-placed leak to build massive hype.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sondrelk View Post
    Probably scheduling conflicts or something. It might have been filmed with the intention that it would be released after the announcement.
    Or maybe it was intentional, who knows. It's hard to discount the value you get from a well-placed leak to build massive hype.
    It was on the livestream in the pre-show footage https://www.mmo-champion.com/content...f-Draenor-Logo
    So they dont really get extra hype by leaking it 30 min earlier
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadochi View Post
    It was on the livestream in the pre-show footage https://www.mmo-champion.com/content...f-Draenor-Logo
    So they dont really get extra hype by leaking it 30 min earlier
    Oh wow, that was even closer than I remember it being.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gifdwarf View Post
    Yeah it was something like that. I remember the moment someone first posted it and everyone was flipping out. I wonder if we could discover 10.0 the same way.
    Or like the 9.1 leak I found: https://www.mmo-champion.com/threads...itle-logo-leak
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  7. #19427
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadochi View Post
    It was on the livestream in the pre-show footage https://www.mmo-champion.com/content...f-Draenor-Logo
    So they dont really get extra hype by leaking it 30 min earlier
    Probably a mistake then. The livestream was at least tangentially about WoD, but noone thought about it long enough to realize that WoD wouldnt have been properly announced by the time the livestream was being done.

    Still. Even 30 minute hype buildup could make a difference for WoD. You never know what marketing ploy is in effect.
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  8. #19428
    Quote Originally Posted by Archmage Xaxxas View Post
    You're going to need to bust out some red circles to highlight the individual pixel you're referring to as being different. As Gifdwarf said, these leaked mere days before the Expansion Announcement, and the very image I linked, the leaked one that you claim was unfinished, was used in promotional material.
    This isn't a case of bad eyesight, or me lying, you've just cropped the same image, in two resolutions.


    I'm not about to learn how to create a gif, or go creating a video making that image fade away overtop of the regularly proportioned SL logo just to convince you of blatant truths. This is just arguing for the sake of arguing on your part, right? I'm confused.
    I don't... If you can't see that the original leak top bar isn't split at all, and the final HD logo has four different sections, or that the oribos scroll work goes from very basic gradient highlighting to edge highlights with more defined shadows and the back reflections from off to the side of the logo, I don't how you want me to show you that one is rough and the other is much more rendered. The two logos literally are not even the same lighting color, the original leak one has a much redder center glow reflecting off the metalwork.


    If you thought the only real Logo Leak was fake (and you seem reluctant to admit even that one being 'real'), why should we trust your judgement now? Especially given the SL logo confusion you're harboring.
    I'm not arguing you should trust my judgement. I literally typed the words "I have been wrong in the past and could always be wrong in the future. " at the end of my post about the Empire logo. I'm just pointing out apparent design problems. I thought the only real logo leak was probably fake. I've also thought every other fake logo was fake to differing degrees. I would call one miss out of dozens of examinations of fake leak material a pretty strong record, but if that disrupts your personal, weird "faith" in me that I didn't ask for or make any claim to, then that's something you're gonna have to deal with on your own, because I don't particularly care if you trust my judgement or not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pebrocks The Warlock View Post
    Hopefully Blizzard fucks up again soon I crave real leaks.

  10. #19430
    Maybe they'd call it "The Black Empire" as a play on words. It's not the old Black Empire, it's Wrathion's Black dragonflight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Requitus View Post
    Maybe they'd call it "The Black Empire" as a play on words. It's not the old Black Empire, it's Wrathion's Black dragonflight.
    Don't think they would go that direction, as the Black Empire is an established faction in WoW lore and I doubt after Deathwing, Wrathion would like to associate his dream of uncorrupted black dragons with that name.
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  12. #19432
    Ok empire of dragons

    What if instead of the isles being just a big area of separate flights ruling separate zones it’s actually an organized “empire” ruled by a black dragon and Wrathion is seen as a usurper.

    We have to help him gain legitimacy and eventually become the ruler
    We have to gain the favor of the other flights and we also discover that the emperor and his advisers are Aspects powered by Azeroth or at least the titan facility located at the center of the empire.

    We have Magni help us

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    I miss us trying to make sense of fake Chinese riddle leaks
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  14. #19434
    Quote Originally Posted by Shadochi View Post
    I miss us trying to make sense of fake Chinese riddle leaks
    Give it a couple years

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadochi View Post
    I miss us trying to make sense of fake Chinese riddle leaks
    Figure out what Living World is instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    Figure out what Living World is instead.
    Well for me personally it might be referring to Azeroth either during the Jailer encounter or in cutscenes between phases. The way it is named Living World to me indicates that it is related to the mortal realm where there are living creatures, more so than it would point to a realm of the Cosmic force of Life. We know that at least in one of the phases of the Jailer we do see a globe of Azeroth. And since we haven't seen the rest of the encounter we don't know if we get more than that when he starts attacking it.

    Thinking about that. I wanna see them add a model of a sword sticking from silithus, scaled appropriately of course
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadochi View Post
    Well for me personally it might be referring to Azeroth either during the Jailer encounter or in cutscenes between phases. The way it is named Living World to me indicates that it is related to the mortal realm where there are living creatures, more so than it would point to a realm of the Cosmic force of Life. We know that at least in one of the phases of the Jailer we do see a globe of Azeroth. And since we haven't seen the rest of the encounter we don't know if we get more than that when he starts attacking it.

    Thinking about that. I wanna see them add a model of a sword sticking from silithus, scaled appropriately of course
    Wouldn't it have strings relating it to a raid mechanic instead of just "Living World"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadochi View Post
    Well for me personally it might be referring to Azeroth either during the Jailer encounter or in cutscenes between phases. The way it is named Living World to me indicates that it is related to the mortal realm where there are living creatures, more so than it would point to a realm of the Cosmic force of Life. We know that at least in one of the phases of the Jailer we do see a globe of Azeroth. And since we haven't seen the rest of the encounter we don't know if we get more than that when he starts attacking it.

    Thinking about that. I wanna see them add a model of a sword sticking from silithus, scaled appropriately of course
    Yeah, but not much reason for the Time of Day or Weather set of animations if it were just a literal animated planet during the fight, though. Not sure why a globe would need a toggled weather or time feature since it's a globe, so the time of day is just it rotating. I think the best approach is to ignore the Living World part all together and try and figure out what could use:

    Proximity
    Time of Day
    Weather

    Also super suspicious that they are the only animations (?) that have an enter/leave set.

  19. #19439
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    Yeah, but not much reason for the Time of Day or Weather set of animations if it were just a literal animated planet during the fight, though. Not sure why a globe would need a toggled weather or time feature since it's a globe, so the time of day is just it rotating. I think the best approach is to ignore the Living World part all together and try and figure out what could use:

    Proximity
    Time of Day
    Weather

    Also super suspicious that they are the only animations (?) that have an enter/leave set.
    Sub zone would fit

  20. #19440
    Quote Originally Posted by Hitei View Post
    Yeah, but not much reason for the Time of Day or Weather set of animations if it were just a literal animated planet during the fight, though. Not sure why a globe would need a toggled weather or time feature since it's a globe, so the time of day is just it rotating. I think the best approach is to ignore the Living World part all together and try and figure out what could use:

    Proximity
    Time of Day
    Weather

    Also super suspicious that they are the only animations (?) that have an enter/leave set.
    It's hard for me to make an educated guess because I'm not familiar enough with the strings and how they normally name or organize animations, but even when I try to guess this is what stumps me. What would need enter and leaving animations for time of day and weather?

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