Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Teriz]

I don't mean to come across as crass, but you're being intentionally obtuse. They're quite clearly Night Elvish bows, they eve strike a chord by reminding you of the Warcraft 3 NE bows. Additionally the mini arrows just lend further weight to them being bows. Not to mention the purple/wood brownish color setup

Again, NE theme doesn’t match the overall theme. At what point were the NE directly involved with the Void or the Black dragon flight? Further, the overall design is too sterile for the Night Elves. NE at the core are forest based. Nothing in that border reflects that. There should be branches, leaves, etc. expressed, but there isn’t.

[Nyel]

The Void Lords have been a part of the game since TBC, did you not play TBC? One of the main races of TBC were the Ethereals, whose homeworld was devoured by Dimensius the All-Devouring, a Void Lord.

Chronicles merely revealed that the Void Lords, such as Dimensius, are the original creators of the Old Gods and the nemesis of the Titans.

Finally, in Legion, Alleria Windrunner would become the first mortal in the history of the Cosmos to successfully defy the whispers of the Void Lords.

You really cannot compare the Void Lords lore from TBC to the lore about the Void Lords established in the last decade or so. And yes, they have been properly teased a long time ago, which is the benefite in this case (and the reason why I compared it to the Jailer).

Void Lords in general will either be retconned again or we will never face them, as they would literally be the end of Warcraft.

[Varodoc]

You really cannot compare the Void Lords lore from TBC to the lore about the Void Lords established in the last decade or so. And yes, they have been properly teased a long time ago, which is the benefite in this case (and the reason why I compared it to the Jailer).

The point is that we knew since TBC that in the domain of the "Shadows" (before WoD started using the term "Void") there were both the Old Gods, who are fleshy behemoths, and the Void Lords, who are basically shadowy elementals/ghosts. We also knew that one of these Void Lords was powerful enough to devour an entire homeworld.

This cannot be compared to the Janitor, who didn't exist before Shadowlands. The Void Lords did exist before Chronicles, the Chronicles merely gave them a bigger spotlight and "retconned" them into the creators of the Old Gods, if you will (before Chronicles, it was assumed that no one created the Old Gods, they were simply born naturally...).

[Teriz]

I agree here, these are clearly reminiscent of Elven bows. It might refer to Alleria, Vereesa and Tyrande, heck maybe even Sylvanas. It just fits very well with the theme of Void (Alleria) and Tyrande being an important character again makes sense, too.

Of those, only Alleria aligns with the void, but she doesn’t align with the old gods. Also the border doesn’t strike me as “Void”. Sylvanas is gone, and Vareesa really doesn’t have anything to do with either theme. Again, I can see how someone would say it looks like a bow, but given the general design of WoW logos, a streamlined appearance would lend itself to that shape.

[micwini]

Today or nay? If nay, what other day?

[elbleuet]

Today or nay? If nay, what other day?

Maybe Tonay.

[Dracullus]

If nay, what other day?

Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.

...what answer you expected?

[Raetary]

Today or nay? If nay, what other day?

Since its Mike announcing stuff, it could be any day really.

[Shadochi]

Of those, only Alleria aligns with the void, but she doesn’t align with the old gods. Also the border doesn’t strike me as “Void”. Sylvanas is gone, and Vareesa really doesn’t have anything to do with either theme. Again, I can see how someone would say it looks like a bow, but given the general design of WoW logos, a streamlined appearance would lend itself to that shape.

She uses the Void, but isn't aligned with it. It would be like saying that Demon Hunters and Warlocks are aligned with the Burning Legion because they use fel and demons

[Revamp Man]

I think the biggest hypothetical twist could be that the Dragon Isles isn't a continent, just one small endgame zone or something while the rest of it takes place on older continents.

There’s a few leaks that had us leveling in revamped zones and then going to dragon isles

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Here’s some other leaked logos from the past couple years

[Teriz]

She uses the Void, but isn't aligned with it. It would be like saying that Demon Hunters and Warlocks are aligned with the Burning Legion because they use fel and demons

I mean aligned as in she uses it's powers. Sort of like how a Burning Legion expansion would incorporate Illidan because he uses demonic power. That said, she doesn't have a connection with either Old Gods or Dragons. Especially not enough to represent a border around an expansion dealing with both. She is far more aligned with the cosmic void, as are the other void elves.

Beyond all of that, what's is cracking up top in the logo? Azeroth, a titan. What is currently under threat from the Old Gods after being weakened/injured by the jailer? A titan. Who imprisoned the Old Gods and empowered the dragons to protect Azeroth from the hour of twilight (notice the twilight in the background) the Titans.

[Shadochi]

There’s a few leaks that had us leveling in revamped zones and then going to dragon isles

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Here’s some other leaked logos from the past couple years



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Fake, its from this pre 9.2 announcement leak

[Varodoc]

It is worth noting that, in the Ren'dorei player intro, Alleria Windrunner cites the Dragons as an example of creatures who could not resist the whispers of the Void and were broken.

Maybe she could appear in a Dragon expansion to mock and roast the Dragons, like the Queen she is

[Teriz]

It is worth noting that, in the Ren'dorei player intro, Alleria Windrunner cites the Dragons as an example of creatures who could not resist the whispers of the Void and were broken.

Maybe she could appear in a Dragon expansion to mock and roast the Dragons, like the Queen she is

Perhaps, but that isn't nearly enough to theme the entire border of an expansion after her. I'm sure we will see her though, given the aftermath of Shadowlands, and more than likely as a set up for the expansion AFTER 10.0.

[Revamp Man]

Fake, its from this pre 9.2 announcement leak

I know it’s fake but I mean it more as “hey let’s compare the two to see if it helps figure out the authenticity”

[Varodoc]

Perhaps, but that isn't nearly enough to theme the entire border of an expansion after her. I'm sure we will see her though, given the aftermath of Shadowlands, and more than likely as a set up for the expansion AFTER 10.0.

I think that an expansion about the Light and Void would likely feature motifs and imagery that allude to both Alleria and Turalyon, like an arrow intertwined with plate armour.

I don't think this imagery would be in a logo about the Dragon Isles, which is why that leak is fake.

[Grimbold21]

Again, NE theme doesn’t match the overall theme. At what point were the NE directly involved with the Void or the Black dragon flight? Further, the overall design is too sterile for the Night Elves. NE at the core are forest based. Nothing in that border reflects that. There should be branches, leaves, etc. expressed, but there isn’t.

That it doesn't match the theme is irrelevant. They're quite clearly bows.

[Nyel]

What's the original source for the Empire of Dragons logo? It looks too damn good to be fake. We had this exact same discussion about the Shadowlands logo which leaked some days before the official announcement. They both match the same high quality.

[Raetary]

What's the original source for the Empire of Dragons logo? It looks too damn good to be fake. We had this exact same discussion about the Shadowlands logo which leaked some days before the official announcement. They both match the same high quality.

It apparently leaked from some discord server.

[Kiivar86]

Surprised this one wasn't posted yet. They say it's from some discord group.

This was one of, if not the, first posts of it.