Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[Dracullus]

I have the Wrath of the Lich King box around, it shows flying mounted combat. Blizzcon had Utgarde Pinnacle as a Raid and an Azjol'Nerub zone. Cata had an entire max level system that had UI prepared that was completely cut. And ofc there is also WoD which had more content cut than post launch content added.

Shadowlands doesn't have much cut but probably because it doesn't have much in general. We got very little information at Blizzcon after all and it seems whatever was cut, was cut early (though I do think those Ardenweald raid tags existed?). BfA did have content cut (there were reference strings for multiple Warfronts) but to be fair, BfA had a massive amount of content so can't complain.

That's they thing, since Legion (beside fact that we could see Tal'Dranath on map during reveal, but they haven't speak a word about it) you mostly see just some datamined things. We often complain Blizzard keeps stuff close to their chest, but this comes from experience. They don't talk about their wild plans, but they pretty much deliver what they announce.

Similar situation with launches. I always see doomsaying how this time everything will be broken AS ALWAYS. But this is isn't WoD or MoP anymore, now launches are smooth, at worst few biggest servers are down first 2-3 hours.

Ardenweald raid is a meme, the second raid was always going to be in the Maw. As far as I remember the only "tags" that showed up were wowhead (in typical wowhead fashion) making poorly evidenced assumptions about the covenant weapons you get from Nathria tokens.

More likely place for scrapped raid would be House of the Chosen with Vyraz as final boss (maybe Kel'Thuzad would had bigger role as well? he feel as wasted character in SL). Similar to Dazal'Alor, most raid would be done in outdoor area and then few new maps indoors. Ardenweald could serve as mini raid to close down Drust storyline.

That would also explain why Korthia was called 'city of secrets'. Maybe they planned it this way for 9.2? Maybe Tazavesh was supposed to be inside Korthia instead random place in SL? We will never know.

They keep talking that SL was designed as 3 'chapters', but I don't think they are 100% honest here. It could be designed this way before launch when covid hit and they knew some cuts will have to be made. But it makes 0 sense to design 3 raids expac from scratch after even BfA got full support.

[Hitei]

That's they thing, since Legion (beside fact that we could see Tal'Dranath on map during reveal, but they haven't speak a word about it) you mostly see just some datamined things. We often complain Blizzard keeps stuff close to their chest, but this comes from experience. They don't talk about their wild plans, but they pretty much deliver what they announce.

Similar situation with launches. I always see doomsaying how this time everything will be broken AS ALWAYS. But this is isn't WoD or MoP anymore, now launches are smooth, at worst few biggest servers are down first 2-3 hours.

Jade Forest launch's buggy as hell intro still wasn't as bad as Vashj'ir. Between everyone just being dropped off the boat and slowly sinking to their deaths via drowning because Naga never came to capture you, boats just continuing off into fatigue without every stopping, and the seashell quest pre-fix where literally one person out of the crowds of hundreds could loot it at a time, I doubt anything will come close.

[Lady Atia]

Btw, the wowhead dressing room beta now supports visage forms - and they even have eyebrows now!

(that's something someone complained about earlier so I noticed them haha)

[Kiria]

Btw, the wowhead dressing room beta now supports visage forms - and they even have eyebrows now!

(that's something someone complained about earlier so I noticed them haha)

Yessssss!!!





I'm so happy with it

[Raetary]

Male Dracthyr desperately need more beard options.

[bruxx]

you wouldnt really use it much (if ever) in DF zones anyway, bcs dragonriding can be upgraded, soar cannot... not to mention it have 5m cooldown...
i mean i would prefer it on dracthyor over dragonriding too, but its not like making it slower is what "killed it" it was worse since the start, and frankly even though i dont like it, as a racial it should be, all racials are TINY advantages, why dracthyrs should be massive... for a racial its still more than enough...

personaly, something like worgen running wild would be nice racial, just for flying, "spread your wings" or whatever

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well technicaly they are not dragons, but dracthyr, dragon/humanoid "hybrid" or what you call it...
and not all draconid can even fly btw, so having some be worse at flying is not such a wild notion... honestly "regular" flying would be imo better racial, like druid flightform or worgen runnig wild (just flying)

I cannot contest what you say, soar was indeed already inferior and I was bothered by the fact that it's not just treated like another dragon riding mount, but at least it was close enough that you could decide to use it to jump off valdrakken every now and then, now there is absolutely no contest.
As far as "racial fairness", I think it'd make far more sense to move one or both of their knock back/up into the evoker tree instead. Those are the racials that actually matter.

[Lahis]

Male Dracthyr desperately need more beard options.

Don't you mean Body 1 Dracthyr?

[Lahis]

How is soloing the easiest version of HFC 'too much of a mental and physical pain' ??? The raid was released 7 years ago lol

Haven't bothered to go back there since WoD

[Nymrohd]

How is soloing the easiest version of HFC 'too much of a mental and physical pain' ??? The raid was released 7 years ago lol

I'd assume the first encounter remains a pain in the ass.

[Nymrohd]

It's beyond easy to solo in mythic so I doubt LFR would pose much of a threat.

Oh I am not saying it's hard. But it's more attention than run in, use 2-3 skills, collect loot.

[Nymrohd]

It's not. Have you even ever done it? Do it and come back here and tell me how hard it was haha

? Yes I did it current, I did it again with alts in Legion and then in BfA. It was annoying for many classes that did not have great mobility. What's your point?

[Lahis]

You que from it in your garrison. All this anguish you suffered from it and you don't know nothin about it :/

Doing current content LFR causes literal physical pain and I don't suually spend time running old raids for Tmogs.

[Makabreska]

I'd assume the first encounter remains a pain in the ass.

Actually, they made it far quicker to solo years ago. You need like 3 ammo crates thrown tops, and cannons are much more durable. Clearing the area to trigger the fight takes longer than the fight itself.

[Makabreska]

Doing current content LFR causes literal physical pain and I don't suually spend time running old raids for Tmogs.

Current content =/ old content. You literally zone in and 1 shot most of bosses of old while watching Netflix. And let's not overdramatise LFR in general. You got bad groups and good groups. The earlier you do it after reset, the better.

[Raetary]

Don't you mean Body 1 Dracthyr?

Yes.

/10chars

[Lahis]

You were the one talking about how much you loved the leather in a raid that's been out for 7 years /shrug.

Back when WoD was current I looked at the set and thought it looked good and wanted to collect it.

Then I actually tried HFC LFR and came to conclusion that the set was not worth the anquish and pain LFR causes.

[8bithamster]

what’s the difference?

since you can’t ride 600 mounts at the same time, what is the difference between collecting and completionism ? don’t get it tbh.

You're talking to someone who yelled at others yesterday that data mined mounts are a blind promise from Blizzard. Don't take it to seriously.

[Niwes]

You're talking to someone who yelled at others yesterday that data mined mounts are a blind promise from Blizzard. Don't take it to seriously.

kk. thx for the warning.

[Lady Atia]

You're talking to someone who yelled at others yesterday that data mined mounts are a blind promise from Blizzard. Don't take it to seriously.

What's your problem? I never yelled, and I'm not the only one who thinks it's bullshit to think "blizzard deleted the mount kekW why you believe in datamining". So stop the personal attack.

(Edit: Also if you would read what I said you would know that my standpoint is that Blizzard won't scrapp an already finished mount that's in the database and already has as much customization options as all other 4 dragonriding mounts, and that said serpent was always expected to be either from endgame or patch content. I didn't say that all mounts (or tints) that get datamined are 100% coming. Learn the difference <3)

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kk. thx for the warning.

No need for a "warning" hun, especially as our conversation had nothing to do with the other topic.

[Niwes]

What's your problem? I never yelled, and I'm not the only one who thinks it's bullshit to think "blizzard deleted the mount kekW why you believe in datamining". So stop the personal attack.

(Edit: Also if you would read what I said you would know that my standpoint is that Blizzard won't scrapp an already finished mount that's in the database and already has as much customization options as all other 4 dragonriding mounts, and that said serpent was always expected to be either from endgame or patch content. I didn't say that all mounts (or tints) that get datamined are 100% coming. Learn the difference <3)

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No need for a "warning" hun, especially as our conversation had nothing to do with the other topic.

no need for salty comments, „hun“. it wasn’t meant that serious. next time i set the „warning“ into quotation marks, since it seems the end of line smiley wasn’t enough.