Dragonflight Alpha/Beta General Discussion

[huth]

Why? They doubled down on the fact that this is not just for testing. None of these points fix the issues that were back in LFR Dragon Soul.
You can easily switch "MAIN spec" mid fight to get an item for the spec you're not playing.

With personal loot, you roll against a computer, not against other players. You don't take away loot from others if you get an item with personal loot. This WILL BE the case with group loot.

Why do some people have such a hard time reading this specific thing you underlined? I don't get it.

Yeah, this only reaffirms my expectation that they'll hurriedly throw this out again after season 1.

[Raetary]

The animated series was canceled?

No, they just haven't announced it yet.

We always get it weekly with the pre-patch, just wait till that's announced.
Probably will be included with it or be announced right after.

[micwini]

The animated series was canceled?

I don't see it listed anywhere on the Official Dragonflight Preview page, and now that we got the release date and everything about the launch process, there's still no teaser or any information regarding the animated series.

What happened?

Teasers from previous expansions:

I think someone a while ago said that theres already 3 places in the game that are designated to contain these videos. Currently they still show a placeholder. So they're coming for sure.

[Lady Atia]

No, they just haven't announced it yet.

We always get it weekly with the pre-patch, just wait till that's announced.
Probably will be included with it or be announced right after.

Yeah, Beta implies we will get three vids again. One for the Fall of Galakrond, one for the Creation of the Dracthyr and I think the last one was about Deathwings Fall to Madness?

[olzenkhaw]

Today I just saw this, and hurray! I got the invite to beta!

[ZyntosAran]

Today I just saw this, and hurray! I got the invite to beta!

Feels incredibly bad man, having bought every single deluxe edition there is, playing since vanilla, when I got beta, I made a lot of bug reports etc...
Nothing...just...nothing.

[Avikur]

Today I just saw this, and hurray! I got the invite to beta!

gz ... not jealous at all lol

[Gurahk]

Asked the customer support guys if my perma ban from 7 years ago matters if I get chosen for beta or not, they said nope as it's too old of a ban.
Glad to know I'm just horribly unlucky

[Dismayxz]

That system is pointless when you can switch what mainspec means at will.

People's concern is clearly the usual nonsense about ninjaing (because people seem obsessed with not being able to play in organized, non-shitty communities). In LFR or literally anywhere else, if they want to roll on something in the way people insinuate with the main/off specc thing, they'd have to change the loot specc while the boss is still being fought in hopes that the item they want to grief on is going to actually drop. Once the roll is already going, so the second loot has been popped up on your screen, your specc roll choice is locked in.

[Revamp Man]

Apparently they do these waves manually or semi-manually so waves can take a couple days

[Gigantique]

Even though the system *functions* the same way, my reaction to Personal Loot giving someone an item and they say they need it for transmog will be a whole lot different than someone pressing need on it and "taking" it from me for the same reason.

No difference on a technical level, player reactions will be night and day.

[Revamp Man]

It was pretty obvious to me that group loot will have more modern rules that would prevent from snatching item you don't even need. But I see from wowhead comments still some people have problem with understanding system even after this blue post.

So in general, positives changes are: no more "do you neeeeeeed?" and whispers; yep I clicked 'need', I need this; and second, this will discourage class stacking. Only big problem I see are weapon types that only few specs use, like bows/guns for 2 hunter or warglaives for 2 demon hunter specs.



Don't worry, you will find something to call DF worst shit ever created. Probably when you find out that flying mounts have gravity or sth.

Dude it took months for players to realize flex in MoP was winged...I don't expect much from the group

I think the weapon problem won't be as bad as we are assuming though

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Even though the system *functions* the same way, my reaction to Personal Loot giving someone an item and they say they need it for transmog will be a whole lot different than someone pressing need on it and "taking" it from me for the same reason.

No difference on a technical level, player reactions will be night and day.

The situation where that works would require it to be an upgrade in terms of ilvl for both of you with the new system

If they have something higher or equal it prioritizes the roll of the person with lower gear

[Nymrohd]

Btw just noticed, the Dracthyr escorting the Alliance boat to Dragon Isles are all posing with swords.

[r4vio928]

Feels incredibly bad man, having bought every single deluxe edition there is, playing since vanilla, when I got beta, I made a lot of bug reports etc...
Nothing...just...nothing.

Idk, I always felt like beta would just spoil things for when it hits live.

[Lorgar Aurelian]

With personal loot you are not taking it from anyone.

In group loot, other people can actively see all loot and see this one guy need rolling on everything

your stilling taking loot that would have gone to others with PL the only difference is that it’s all on the back end so our party can’t see you doing it deliberately.

[Makabreska]

So in general, positives changes are: no more "do you neeeeeeed?" and whispers; yep I clicked 'need', I need this; and second, this will discourage class stacking. Only big problem I see are weapon types that only few specs use, like bows/guns for 2 hunter or warglaives for 2 demon hunter specs.

What do you mean no more? Items will remain fully tradable to eligible players after you win a roll, so of course peeps will get plenty of whispers.

[Nymrohd]

your stilling taking loot that would have gone to others with PL the only difference is that it’s all on the back end so our party can’t see you doing it deliberately.

But that's the crux. By removing player agency you are also absolving them of responsibility.

[Nyel]

Btw just noticed, the Dracthyr escorting the Alliance boat to Dragon Isles are all posing with swords.

What are you supposing?

[Dracullus]

What do you mean no more? Items will remain fully tradable to eligible players after you win a roll, so of course peeps will get plenty of whispers.

Because currently it's not clear that you need item when you get it, you can get it randomly, that's why people ask. Especially since people do LFR or even higher difficulty for different things than gear, so they often indeed don't need gear.

Now you will hit button NEED before you get item, which imply that, yes, you need that. Sure, you still can get angry whisper from some shithead, but that person will know he will achieve nothing.

Dude it took months for players to realize flex in MoP was winged...I don't expect much from the group

I think the weapon problem won't be as bad as we are assuming though

Yeah, you're probably right, only 'problematic' weapons are warglaives, agi ranged and agi daggers anyway.

I signed up for DF Beta...

:3 still waiting for it...

Eh, it's just 2 months, don't spoil yourself at this point.

[Makabreska]

Because currently it's not clear that you need item when you get it, you can get it randomly, that's why people ask. Especially since people do LFR or even higher difficulty for different things than gear, so they often indeed don't need gear.

Now you will hit button NEED before you get item, which imply that, yes, you need that. Sure, you still can get angry whisper from some shithead, but that person will know he will achieve nothing.

You really do not know player base if you think it will reduce whispers. "Pls I really need that, plsplsplsplsplspls", "Bro, y u need that? It has shit stats for your spec", "WTF??? You alr have 2 set, give it to someone else!" Guaranteed people wont even pay attention to whether item was won in Need roll.