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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    @Themius you seem super confused buddy. I’m pushing for M4A and more. What I’m not doing is wasting time crying about Biden since he’ll sign pretty much any progressive legislation that actually makes it to his desk. I’m lobbying Congress to get that legislation done so it can make it to Biden’s desk. Until Biden does some horrible shit I’m going to give him credit for what he has done. So far he hasn’t fallen short with any of his actions, imo. There’s more I’d like to see get done, but he can’t just do that shit with the stroke of a pen.
    He has fallen short in some of his picks and opinions already... in my view. The thing I am not celebrating Biden as a person I am as content as I can be with the pick, and am more concerned with what the outside forces on Biden will do in order to get progressive things done.

    Out of the gate... he takes a similar stance as Trump to Venezuela with his pick Blinken being no better...

    His foreign policy is honestly not very different from Trump or Bush or Obama. I mean look at his idea for fucking Iran.

    Hinting at these flaws, Biden recently said he wants to build on the 2015 deal with a new agreement to “tighten and lengthen Iran’s nuclear constraints, as we address the missile program.”
    This makes no fucking sense.

    Look at it from Iran's perspective.

    "So we were in a deal with the USA and a couple years later the USA undid it... now they have another president who wants us in the deal again which we didn't break but now they want tighter restrictions are they betrayed their word..."

    Not to mention all the tough sanctions... oh yeah that'll get them to work!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Look at it from Iran's perspective.

    "So we were in a deal with the USA and a couple years later the USA undid it... now they have another president who wants us in the deal again which we didn't break but now they want tighter restrictions are they betrayed their word..."

    Not to mention all the tough sanctions... oh yeah that'll get them to work!
    It's not just Iran that is paying attention to how we deal with Iran. Every other country in the world knows that they could be next. The US plays hard ball. Other countries will start factoring that into their negotiating stances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    He has fallen short in some of his picks and opinions already... in my view. The thing I am not celebrating Biden as a person I am as content as I can be with the pick, and am more concerned with what the outside forces on Biden will do in order to get progressive things done.

    Out of the gate... he takes a similar stance as Trump to Venezuela with his pick Blinken being no better...

    His foreign policy is honestly not very different from Trump or Bush or Obama. I mean look at his idea for fucking Iran.



    This makes no fucking sense.

    Look at it from Iran's perspective.

    "So we were in a deal with the USA and a couple years later the USA undid it... now they have another president who wants us in the deal again which we didn't break but now they want tighter restrictions are they betrayed their word..."

    Not to mention all the tough sanctions... oh yeah that'll get them to work!
    Iran is already saying they’re on board for re-entering the 2015 deal... details will be negotiated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega10 View Post
    It's not just Iran that is paying attention to how we deal with Iran. Every other country in the world knows that they could be next. The US plays hard ball. Other countries will start factoring that into their negotiating stances.
    maybe they'll just take us less seriously and exclude the US from deals later. The us doesn't play "hard ball" they play world immperialist. Hell at one point the US was considering a sort of title like that when they started taking over islands.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vegas82 View Post
    Iran is already saying they’re on board for re-entering the 2015 deal... details will be negotiated.
    Yes they're on board, but they're not exactly on board with the US wanting to not just re-enter but re-enter and boulster.
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    I'm reminded of an acquaintance of mine that quit his support of the GOP during Obama's term when Libya was giung through their "spring," and the GOP complained about not helping them. And when the admin enforced a no-fly zone the GOP turned about-face and cried about escalation. "Fuck the GOP. I no longer have a party."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    I'm reminded of an acquaintance of mine that quit his support of the GOP during Obama's term when Libya was giung through their "spring," and the GOP complained about not helping them. And when the admin enforced a no-fly zone the GOP turned about-face and cried about escalation. "Fuck the GOP. I no longer have a party."
    Another issue that the republican party is backtracking on?

    Even the least bit of cooperation with the Biden administration.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/imperilin...093024429.html

    Title: Imperiling quick $1,400 checks, moderate Republicans push back on Biden's economic plan

    Excerpts:

    Key moderate Republicans in the Senate dismissed quick action on President Joe Biden's top priority of a $1.9 trillion economic package, indicating that the $1,400 stimulus payments he requested could take months, or never arrive.
    There are many quotes from moderate republican Senators, and the Mitt Romney one is the most to the point.

    Sen. Mitt Romney R-Utah, a conservative who has a track record of breaking with his party, told NBC News that he isn't inclined to borrow another $1 trillion or even $500 billion for a broad economic package.

    "My own view is that what's holding back the economy is Covid, not money," he said. "I want to do everything we can to get the Covid vaccines out. But once the Covid vaccine is out and people are inoculated, I believe you'll see the economy coming back."
    In short, democrats can get exactly one bill through Congress over the next 2 years. At this point, everything else is just posturing for the 2022 elections, as well as using Executive Orders and Federal Agencies to enact as much policy as is reasonable to do.

    And of course, make that one big bill count It's what democrats will be running on in 2022.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega10 View Post
    Another issue that the republican party is backtracking on?

    Even the least bit of cooperation with the Biden administration.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/imperilin...093024429.html

    Title: Imperiling quick $1,400 checks, moderate Republicans push back on Biden's economic plan

    Excerpts:



    There are many quotes from moderate republican Senators, and the Mitt Romney one is the most to the point.



    In short, democrats can get exactly one bill through Congress over the next 2 years. At this point, everything else is just posturing for the 2022 elections, as well as using Executive Orders and Federal Agencies to enact as much policy as is reasonable to do.

    And of course, make that one big bill count It's what democrats will be running on in 2022.
    Mitt "250k is middle-class income" Romney?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowferal View Post
    It always seemed to me that Biden was/is left of Obama on some things, and not willing to play the isdues as political chips to play. Obama shied away from the LGBT issue until Biden "gaffed" to the press about his full support.
    I mean that's right if you ignore Biden's entire career and not the 8 years as a powerless VP who was gearing up for retirement.


    Supposedly the Biden administration is working direct help to families. It will be great if the measure passes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Themius View Post
    Yes they're on board, but they're not exactly on board with the US wanting to not just re-enter but re-enter and boulster.
    I'm not trying to be on Iran's side but if the re-enter on the same terms then they deserve to be screwed over again. Absolutely no way they'd re-enter without some favorable incentives.

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    Reading the last few pages

    Are some people actually arguing that progressives shouldnt take credit for pulling the part left? What kind of backwards logic...


    Biden is a very well established centrists.
    Progressives lobby for progressive policies
    Biden mentions said policies.

    Insecure Liberals: "STFU you progressive socialist. We were pushing that agenda all along. So what if we've never mentioned it before and it's the only thing you've talked about for the last 4 years. Look at the 'Cosplay Leftists' complain about us cosplaying as progressives. They aren't even complaining yet? Let's back them into a corner until they do! "

    Gahdamn. I swear some core Dems hate allies from left more than they hate McConnell's GOP.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PACOX View Post

    Gahdamn. I swear some core Dems hate allies from left more than they hate McConnell's GOP.
    Sometimes it feels like Biden supporters view McConnell > lefties like me = Trump.

    They bring up anti-lefty stuff up in the oddest places too, many times out of the blue

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    Quote Originally Posted by Omega10 View Post
    Another issue that the republican party is backtracking on?

    Even the least bit of cooperation with the Biden administration.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/imperilin...093024429.html

    Title: Imperiling quick $1,400 checks, moderate Republicans push back on Biden's economic plan

    Excerpts:



    There are many quotes from moderate republican Senators, and the Mitt Romney one is the most to the point.



    In short, democrats can get exactly one bill through Congress over the next 2 years. At this point, everything else is just posturing for the 2022 elections, as well as using Executive Orders and Federal Agencies to enact as much policy as is reasonable to do.

    And of course, make that one big bill count It's what democrats will be running on in 2022.
    Unless that bill is a combination of M4A and another new deal with the government raising taxes and hiring people like FDR had to do to remain in control.... looks like it'll be a bad 2022 and a bad 2024.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yadryonych View Post
    Catturd is an idiotic Trumper,

    Trump repeatedly refused to work with the Biden's Transition, The Biden administration found out that Trump had no plan to deal with the Coronavirus.

    This is still Trump's fault.
    Americans are the Chinese of the west. The main reason people tolerate them is because they are too big to ignore.

    "Admit nothing, deny everything, launch counterattack." - Roger Stone (Trump's Friend, Ally, and Campaign Advisor)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yadryonych View Post
    https://bigmemes.funnyjunk.com/pictures/Knotty+tangible+duck_00e9e0_8218288.png
    Nothing in that image is true... don’t you have lies about Nevalny to spread?

    Can't believe the shitshow continues. He's even steady on the way to beat trump's 200K record in just two months

    Just four more years of building america better again
    Because Trump had no plan and Biden been president for less than 4 days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by szechuan View Post
    Catturd is an idiotic Trumper,

    Trump repeatedly refused to work with the Biden's Transition, The Biden administration found out that Trump had no plan to deal with the Coronavirus.

    This is still Trump's fault.
    Deflecting from riots on their streets...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yadryonych View Post


    Can't believe the shitshow continues. He's even steady on the way to beat trump's 200K record in just two months



    Just four more years of building america better again
    Wow, whoever the retard is that is tweeting this bullshit, is a fucking moron.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yadryonych View Post
    Funnyjunk links of literally who spouting off objectively false bullshit? Why should anyone give a shit, mein duden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yadryonych View Post
    Can't believe the shitshow continues.
    I know, right? Trump's dereliction of his duty is killing four thousand Americans a day. And because he incited a riot the federal government required 25,000 troops on short notice to defend the White House against a second Trump murderous insurrection.

    Glad we're on the same page.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Funnyjunk links of literally who spouting off objectively false bullshit? Why should anyone give a shit, mein duden?
    To be fair... one thing change... suddenly things like covid matter... that’s already a dramatic improvement. People are back to caring about a pandemic, instead of how far Trump can shit on the US.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yadryonych View Post


    Can't believe the shitshow continues. He's even steady on the way to beat trump's 200K record in just two months



    Just four more years of building america better again
    60,000 jobs not destroyed. If anything Biden just made it easier for unemployed people to actually receive money.
    Gas and Oil need to be phased out anyway
    Transgender rights do not harm women's rights. Terfism is just transphobic scum full of lies that need to be destroyed.
    Any troops sleeping in parking Garages is down to Trump if at all since 3-4 days isn't going to change that issue.
    The only reason Trump didn't get the US into a new middle east war is that Iran wasn't stupid enough to openly attack the US after the US assassinated the essentially second in command of their nation.
    Coronavirus issues in the US will always be Trump's fault as he did next to nothing and worse tried to play it down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    60,000 jobs not destroyed. If anything Biden just made it easier for unemployed people to actually receive money.
    Gas and Oil need to be phased out anyway
    Transgender rights do not harm women's rights. Terfism is just transphobic scum full of lies that need to be destroyed.
    Any troops sleeping in parking Garages is down to Trump if at all since 3-4 days isn't going to change that issue.
    The only reason Trump didn't get the US into a new middle east war is that Iran wasn't stupid enough to openly attack the US after the US assassinated the essentially second in command of their nation.
    Coronavirus issues in the US will always be Trump's fault as he did next to nothing and worse tried to play it down.
    Yep, you don't see the Russian saying anything about the 30-50 million without jobs in just a few months thanks to Trump's shitty response to the Coronavirus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kallisto View Post
    60,000 jobs not destroyed. If anything Biden just made it easier for unemployed people to actually receive money.
    They are referring to things like keystone... it’s those jobs...

    Gas and Oil need to be phased out anyway
    See above...

    Transgender rights do not harm women's rights. Terfism is just transphobic scum full of lies that need to be destroyed.
    I don’t actually understand that one...

    Any troops sleeping in parking Garages is down to Trump if at all since 3-4 days isn't going to change that issue.
    Yep, the bewilderment of Trump supporters, as to why there would be so much military presence after an insurrection two weeks prior... is one of the strangest examples of cognitive dissonance yet.

    The only reason Trump didn't get the US into a new middle east war is that Iran wasn't stupid enough to openly attack the US after the US assassinated the essentially second in command of their nation.
    He moved troops from protecting Kurds, to protecting Saudi Oil.

    Coronavirus issues in the US will always be Trump's fault as he did next to nothing and worse tried to play it down.
    They are finally taking it seriously... silver lining...
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