Public transport is fantastic for cities. It is, however, extremely cost prohibitive once you get away from them. Suburbs can't support as much as cities can but arguably need it more, and urban areas? Forget about it.
The US is far too vast and spread out for cars to be phased out completely. We can, however, transition from fossil fuel to hybrids to electrics quite easily, and should be doing so.
As a trucker, I’m curious how they’re going to accomplish this on our end. They have plenty of surface area to accommodate solar panels and recharging if they’ll do it. On a standard trailer, we usually are 53 feet long, about 98.5 inches wide and roughly 108 inches high. That would have a lot of surface area for solar panels, not to mention our tandem axle that could potentially be used for energy generation as well.
It isn't for anyone who is averse to living stacked on top of one another--and that's a large portion of the population. Rural areas are also not only desirable for a large portion of the people but also necessary. Even if we reach the level of tech that allows substantial hydroponics advancements and implementation it will take a great deal of space to fulfill the needs of the nation. Cities aren't exactly ideal either as the recent pandemic continues to demonstrate. There, too, there would have to be great leaps made to make them semi-comfortable and safe for the bulk of the people because they absolutely aren't presently.
In any case, "Fuck the suburbs" isn't a solution.
Ah yeah, the "the only two population densities are either Manhattan or Coeur d'Alene" argument. No - reduction in sprawl does not necessitate people living 'stacked on top of one another'.
I'm not talking solely about residences, either. Part of the problem with suburbs in particular is how it forces commuting for services.
Why? "Move to the suburbs" was the 'solution' to desegregation and immigration, so why can't fuck the suburbs also be a viable policy?In any case, "Fuck the suburbs" isn't a solution.![]()
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Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi
This is something I've seen being worked on and it's probably something the US could already start doing--but won't. Mainly because of the huge initial price tag. Electric buses and trucks are already a thing but the infrastructure for them to be widely used in the US doesn't currently exist. I've seen mock-ups for long-haul trucks that could charge as they go on solar-paneled roads but it still has problems to work through and it's just insanely expensive--though I suspect most of that expense is artificial inflation.
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lol, Well if you're just going to put words in my mouth there's no point in me even bothering. Plenty of other things I can spend my time on than arguing with someone being dishonest. It's off-topic for the thread in any case.
No, my problem is public transportation, by its nature, in any city, is limited to where and when it can be used. Then there is the fact that for it to be even marginally effect, people have to be packed together like sardines. For many people, city living isn't living, its a madhouse to be avoided as much as possible.
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Because the suburbs make for a much nicer quality of life than living in the heart of a major city for many people. I like having a yard for my grandkid and dogs to play in. I like being able to decide if I want to interact with people or not. Personally, I would rather be dead then live in a high population density location again.
You mean like is already the case because you do not in fact decide where roads get laid or for what traffic density they are designed to handle? Lol.
And if it's an agency issue - good thing God gave you legs, huh.
I wouldn't trust someone who has only ever eaten well done steak with ketchup to have an informed opinion about cuisine, why would I trust people whose only experience with urban living has been enduring the likes of downtown Seattle for a few days out of the year to have an informed opinion as to what city living necessitates or is like? Rofl.Then there is the fact that for it to be even marginally effect, people have to be packed together like sardines. For many people, city living isn't living, its a madhouse to be avoided as much as possible.
Originally Posted by Marjane Satrapi