Biden / Harris Focused Discussion

[Fugus]

My god, I wake up and you guys are still letting Jeezy911 own you guys up and down the forum after all this time? Really?

[JohnBrown1917]

This is such an ignorant yet typical mentality that is part and parcel with conservative ideology.

"If it can't be fixed perfectly or be fixed by one piece of effort....then I'm justified in not wanting it." - All American Conservatives

But it needs to be fixed perfectly or we are fucked and capitalism/liberalism/conservatism goes against any method that could prevent the biggest disasters that climate change is going to cause.


Not to worry though, the richest countries will be least affected.

[Benggaul]

My god, I wake up and you guys are still letting Jeezy911 own you guys up and down the forum after all this time? Really?

I can only guess it's boredom. Also guessing the mods are busy elsewhere.

[Ivanstone]

My god, I wake up and you guys are still letting Jeezy911 own you guys up and down the forum after all this time? Really?

I'd hesitate to use the word "own".

[AntiFascistVoter]

I'd hesitate to use the word "own".

Hipsters and Gamers becoming Politically Woke in 2015 was a mistake.

[Ivanstone]

Hipsters and Gamers becoming Politically Woke in 2015 was a mistake.

I don’t have an issue with the word but the only thing Jeezy owns are the clothes on his back.

[Fugus]

I'd hesitate to use the word "own".

If he was debating you guys I would agree but he isn’t and never was.

His game was to see just how much he could shit on the page and how much you guys would feed him so he could keep going. And in his game, he owned everyone who kept feeding him.

I like to use the playing chess with a pigeon analogy and his game, the pigeon won and did exactly what he aimed to do.

[Ivanstone]

If he was debating you guys I would agree but he isn’t and never was.

His game was to see just how much he could shit on the page and how much you guys would feed him so he could keep going. And in his game, he owned everyone who kept feeding him.

I like to use the playing chess with a pigeon analogy and his game, the pigeon won and did exactly what he aimed to do.

We’re not playing the game with a pigeon. We’re playing the game with a person who likes to play with his own shit. It’s still gross but the more civilized posters will sometimes post interesting things in an attempt to educate the shit flinger. There’s no value in training a pigeon but even a stubborn idiot might learn something. The rest of us might pick up something new while watching the process.

Also it’s ok to throw in some cheep mockery sometimes. Do you not get amused by the idiocy of a shit flinger?

[Fugus]

We’re not playing the game with a pigeon. We’re playing the game with a person who likes to play with his own shit. It’s still gross but the more civilized posters will sometimes post interesting things in an attempt to educate the shit flinger. There’s no value in training a pigeon but even a stubborn idiot might learn something. The rest of us might pick up something new while watching the process.

Also it’s ok to throw in some cheep mockery sometimes. Do you not get amused by the idiocy of a shit flinger?

Don’t really get amused myself. I am to the point I typically skip their post and any post I see that is a response to them as they are largely a waste of time and completely rehashing the same things a million times from all the other times they have been told it.

I see it as giving him exactly what he wanted. He didn’t care about debating the facts or the facts themselves in any way. He just wants to see how many people he can get to respond to him and how much he can effectively shit on the page from all the feeding the responses to him have giving him to go on.

He didn’t win a debate, he didn’t try to win or even have a debate. What he did do was see how much he could shit on the page and how far it could go and how many people would respond to him and feed him allowing it to go further.


I know the game, seen it played since the 90s and had a friend who loved playing it back then. If you respond and feed them, they win, you lose.

[Ivanstone]

I know the game, seen it played since the 90s and had a friend who loved playing it back then. If you respond and feed them, they win, you lose.

What did they win though? Temporary amusement at best. I’m sure he doesn’t care about our contempt but there’s nothing else to be gained.

Meanwhile the world is disintegrating beneath them. I’m sure the idiots melting snowballs in Texas with a lighter thought they were owning the libtards but they still have to live in a state where their politicians and corporations utterly failed them.

I don’t see it as a loss. First, I am also gaining temporary amusement from mocking the shit flinger. Second, most responses are roughly the same but occasionally I see something that I didn’t know. The latter makes it worth it.

[Fugus]

What did they win though? Temporary amusement at best. I’m sure he doesn’t care about our contempt but there’s nothing else to be gained.

Meanwhile the world is disintegrating beneath them. I’m sure the idiots melting snowballs in Texas with a lighter thought they were owning the libtards but they still have to live in a state where their politicians and corporations utterly failed them.

I don’t see it as a loss. First, I am also gaining temporary amusement from mocking the shit flinger. Second, most responses are roughly the same but occasionally I see something that I didn’t know. The latter makes it worth it.

If you enjoy it I guess. Means you both won in some respect. As far as my friend, yeah we were both teenagers at the time but he laughed his butt off doing it in the AOL and IRC chat rooms.

He also found it funny to find the grossest pictures be possibly could and trick me into seeing them just for the reaction. Walk in the room to him staring at me with a grin on his face waiting for a reaction with some messed up stuff on the monitor

[Bodakane]

If he was debating you guys I would agree but he isn’t and never was.

His game was to see just how much he could shit on the page and how much you guys would feed him so he could keep going. And in his game, he owned everyone who kept feeding him.

I like to use the playing chess with a pigeon analogy and his game, the pigeon won and did exactly what he aimed to do.

I guess my thing is that the conversation isn't only being read by Jeezy and the person going after him. Not too mention, his arguments are not original and are handed down to him from his conservative overlords and they are often found in places where they aren't challenged. His and his ilk's brand of bullshittery is toxic, moronic and extremely dangerous, so when it does rear its head ion a public forum....then it needs to be defeated...whther that is stupid gaming forum or on the steps of the Capitol.

[Shalcker]

This is how I know you're not serious, because you're attacking a strawman by insinuating that people that want action on climate change support this. Rofl.

I'm not saying you support this, but i'm seeing it as most logical course of actions.

It is quite obvious that climate change can create plenty of humanitarian catastrophes (including situations like we have seen in Texas).
It is also quite obvious that while China is pledging to reduce their carbon footprint, real progress seems to be quite slow and they might be unwilling to do investments at the level that could curb them to necessary degree.
Thus, it would be best if West could pay for saving the world; and then once world is saved get back to politics as usual.

Otherwise world is unlikely to be saved.

And i'm just asking what you think priorities should be.

Obviously given an option you'll "take both" - that is, both keep China down and reduce their carbon emissions; but if it would become a choice between two, what would be right choice, in your opinion?

[Fugus]

I guess my thing is that the conversation isn't only being read by Jeezy and the person going after him. Not too mention, his arguments are not original and are handed down to him from his conservative overlords and they are often found in places where they aren't challenged. His and his ilk's brand of bullshittery is toxic, moronic and extremely dangerous, so when it does rear its head ion a public forum....then it needs to be defeated...whther that is stupid gaming forum or on the steps of the Capitol.

For me, if it is someone new or something most definitely but when it is the same person repeating the same talking point that gets the same response and you know they aren’t doing it to debate but to get reactions it is a bit much. If new people pile on, that is a different situation which would get a response as the other person is new and doesn’t know them.

But to me it kinda reminds me of that scene on “Big Bang Theory” where Sheldon is giving the rules to their weird Rock/Paper/Scissor game and the other guy keeps playing around just to make Sheldon keep repeating it.

[Elegiac]

I'm not saying you support this, but i'm seeing it as most logical course of actions.

Basically, you're making shit up and attributing it to others to try and discredit their arguments.

That's the definition of a strawman, sweaty. Lol. I'm not going to entertain imaginary Sophie's Choices because you don't have a valid argument.

[Bodakane]

For me, if it is someone new or something most definitely but when it is the same person repeating the same talking point that gets the same response and you know they aren’t doing it to debate but to get reactions it is a bit much. If new people pile on, that is a different situation which would get a response as the other person is new and doesn’t know them.

But to me it kinda reminds me of that scene on “Big Bang Theory” where Sheldon is giving the rules to their weird Rock/Paper/Scissor game and the other guy keeps playing around just to make Sheldon keep repeating it.

Yeah, but again, its not about the poster for me, but the disinformation going unchallenged. It should always be challenged. Trump's cult has grown because these people are NOT challenged. They live in echo chambers. Anytime one breaks out, even if they are doing it to "pwn the libs!!!" it should still be met with facts and truth and even, ridicule.

If he wants to subject himself to that....that's his fetish, I don't really care, but the info should never go unchecked.

[Benggaul]

I'd hesitate to use the word "own".

Considering how much you people are letting him get what he wants, I'd say it's accurate.

[Ivanstone]

Considering how much you people are letting him get what he wants, I'd say it's accurate.

In a chess match between a sensible person and a shit flinger, the sensible person chooses to wear protective gear and laughs at the shit flinger's antics. I'm sure the shit flinger is having a grand ole time but he's still the one wallowing around in shit both metaphorically and literally.

[Benggaul]

In a chess match between a sensible person and a shit flinger, the sensible person chooses to wear protective gear and laughs at the shit flinger's antics. I'm sure the shit flinger is having a grand ole time but he's still the one wallowing around in shit both metaphorically and literally.

Cool, meanwhile the shit is splattering all over everyone else and nobody can tell chess was the original game because it's been obscured in all of the shit.

[AntiFascistVoter]

And now the conversation is still about him.... as he said it would be. Jesus wept.

I know the Biden admin is bereft of scandals right now, but surely there are better things to discuss?

Baby steps ... better having them dunk on baby fascists that whinge about progressive aesthetics of Joe's ice cream freezer.

Could be worse. Jacobin is complaining loudly about the real definition of "kids in cages". To them, its no different than "kids in trailers with the sponsors".