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    Quote Originally Posted by CostinR View Post
    For the same reason Democrats abandoned any plan to try and raise the minimum wage
    That's literally not what happened but whatever floats your made up world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    See, that's the thing.

    I draw conclusions based on analysis of the facts and application of reason.
    I draw conclusions based on the factual reality that exists, not some political ideology wishful thinking. If you can't divorce your view on the merits of a bill, which I have not contested, vs the reality of how things play out, which I have, that's your problem.

    My position is simple: The bill is a meaningless piece of showmanship for Democrats because it has no realistic chance of becoming law, and they are fully aware of this.

    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    That's literally not what happened but whatever floats your made up world.
    The Senate Parliamentarian ruled that they couldn't increase the min wage to 15 dollars a month, but they could have overruled her ( Harris to be specific could have done so ) or they could have made a tax change for big corporations to force them to increase their min. wage or face fines, this was called Plan B.

    Democrats choose neither option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/pol...l-628-n1259673

    WHERE ARE YOUR CHECKS?!

    Ask Ron Johnson, he's forcing clerks to read the whole 600+ page bill aloud because "IT'S SO BIG AND COMPLEX" and apparently this is the only way for people to learn what's in it. I guess like, summaries don't exist?

    Just a reminder: Democrats have their problems, but they are not the problem.
    And I'm sure Sen Ronny also requested the GOP Tax Break for the Rich to be read out loud as well, right?

    GOP fuckwits bringing this nation to it's knees.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Endus View Post
    Your counter was to claim 6 SCOTUS judges would ignore both in favor of ruling based on nothing but blind partisanship.
    So far they really haven't done much of that yet. In fact I'm quite impressed by how impartial they've been so far. It's not at all what I expected from them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cubby View Post
    And I'm sure Sen Ronny also requested the GOP Tax Break for the Rich to be read out loud as well, right?

    GOP fuckwits bringing this nation to it's knees.
    They don't care, they can just go to Cancun whenever shit hits the fan for good

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    Quote Originally Posted by CostinR View Post
    I can see half a dozen things in this bill that the Supreme Court would take major issues with.

    That however doesn't matter as this bill is an empty pointless spectacle, treating it is anything but is laughable. Dems know it would never pass the Senate even if they nuked the filibuster, which btw they haven't.

    How about something real, like I dunno the COVID bailout bill and then Biden's infrastructure bill, as in things that can and will actually pass.
    I hope you are smart enough to realize that if this bill passes through reconciliation, then it would pass without the filibuster. I'd hope, but you did just say it wouldn't. 51 votes is 51 votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CostinR View Post
    The Senate Parliamentarian ruled that they couldn't increase the min wage to 15 dollars a month-
    In the Covid Relief bill. Not ~ever~.

    Try not to be so misinformed in the future

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    lol the " fuck your feelings" gop
    is butthurt that biden offended..neanderthals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    lol the " fuck your feelings" gop
    is butthurt that biden offended..neanderthals?
    He didn't say it on Twitter, so they can't ignore it by pretending they don't know what social media is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Belize View Post
    Is Trump President yet, or has the date been pushed back again?
    I heard them saying a few days ago in videos from CPAC I think that it will be the 20th now, when he is supposed to take power, and that Biden is just being puppeted by Trump somehow. https://www.newsweek.com/qanon-theor...e-flag-1573871

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanman12345 View Post
    this Douchebag gonna make them spend 10 hours reading every single word of this 600 page bill.
    Not surprising. Ron Johnson doesn't work for the American people anymore. He is for Trump and Putin.

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    https://www.ajc.com/news/nation-worl...CS6KUFCWG6QX4/

    Apparently holding "solo press conferences" is a measurement now? It's a thing? And damn Biden for not holding solo press conferences which is apparently a first in the past century?

    I guess this is what we're complaining about now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CostinR View Post
    I can see half a dozen things in this bill that the Supreme Court would take major issues with.

    That however doesn't matter as this bill is an empty pointless spectacle, treating it is anything but is laughable. Dems know it would never pass the Senate even if they nuked the filibuster, which btw they haven't.

    How about something real, like I dunno the COVID bailout bill and then Biden's infrastructure bill, as in things that can and will actually pass.
    Since you have been championing Republicans the last few months, you do know that Ron Johnson, just delayed the bill again for Covid relief by making the fucking clerks read the ENTIRE 700 page bill, which will take about 15 hours to read. The House passed it, and the Senate will pass it as soon as it gets there, but Johnson is delaying it.

    And what parts of the bill would the Supreme Court take issue with, and what constitutional law degree do you have to know that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    Ask Ron Johnson, he's forcing clerks to read the whole 600+ page bill aloud because "IT'S SO BIG AND COMPLEX" and apparently this is the only way for people to learn what's in it.
    "I hereby motion to add the text 'My name is Ron Johnson and I'm a fucking idioit' to the bill."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edge- View Post
    I guess this is what we're complaining about now.
    "Biden under increasing media spotlight for lack of news conferences"

    Yep, that's a headline only a Trump cultist could have written. Or, did I forget the part where he shut down the WHPC and had McEnemy lie nonstop for a year?

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    Quote Originally Posted by arandomuser View Post
    is butthurt that biden offended..neanderthals?
    So easy, even a caveman could do it!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    "I hereby motion to add the text 'My name is Ron Johnson and I'm a fucking idioit' to the bill."

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    "Biden under increasing media spotlight for lack of news conferences"

    Yep, that's a headline only a Trump cultist could have written. Or, did I forget the part where he shut down the WHPC and had McEnemy lie nonstop for a year?
    Yep, and in her first press conference when she took the job, said she would never lie to anyone. Turns out that was her first lie.

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    Quote Originally Posted by postman1782 View Post
    The House passed it, and the Senate will pass it as soon as it gets there, but Johnson is delaying it.
    Johnson is engaging is a political circus for the hell of it. Being obnoxious in Washington apparently pays well.

    But since people here have insisted on losing their minds over a ( pointless ) delaying tactic it's also worth saying the bill needs to go back to the House given that it's a different version and they need to vote on it again.

    The House is adjourned until March 8th by the way.

    https://clerk.house.gov/

    The Speaker announced that the House do now adjourn pursuant to section 5(a)(1)(B) of H. Res. 8. The next meeting is scheduled for 12:00 p.m. on March 8, 2021.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CostinR View Post
    the bill needs to go back to the House given that it's a different version and they need to vote on it again.
    That's pretty standard, I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    That's pretty standard, I think.
    It is, and Nancy Pelosi has already indicated that it will pass.

    Quote Originally Posted by CostinR View Post
    The House is adjourned until March 8th by the way.
    You know that's just Monday, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    That's pretty standard, I think.
    Yes it is fairly standard, but people are acting here as if the bill would just easily become law if not for the devil called Johnson. He's a pest putting on a show that ultimately means little even in how long it will take to get the bill signed into law...since the House is on recess. The Senate isn't leaving until they pass the bill.

    What it really amounts to is that Johnson being an ass to his fellow senators by wasting their time in staying in D.C. when they would rather be home, nothing more or less.

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkTZeratul View Post
    You know that's just Monday, right?
    And today is still late Thursday in D.C. as I type this and the Senate are staying in over the weekend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CostinR View Post
    Yes it is fairly standard, but people are acting here as if the bill would just easily become law if not for the devil called Johnson.
    The read I got was "Johnson is being a dick".

    giggity

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    Quote Originally Posted by Breccia View Post
    The read I got was "Johnson is being a dick".

    giggity
    I mean, apropos, since surely you've heard that the J&J vaccine is rising to the occasion?

    Putting the Johnson back in Johnson.

    The thrust of it all is this: The questionably-shaped chart delivers a load of good news. We're all horny at the idea of this pandemic ending (among other things), and thirsty for a drop of positivity.
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