Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
and a ctrl v and p for you.
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State laws can defacto trump federal ones in their respective states in specific cases where the federal government decides that it will not interfere with state laws that have been passed in opposition to the federal law.
Forgive me... I assumed the defacto was well.. understood but maybe it wasn't?
State laws can defacto supersede federal ones when the federal government respects the state law and takes a position of non-intervention. That's just a fact yes? We can all agree on this yes?
Last edited by Themius; 2021-03-19 at 07:43 PM.
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Not moving goal posts, I thought it was understood because we all know the laws yes? We also know state laws yes? We also know that the federal government can choose whether or not to intervene but has come out on the side of non-intevention yes?
All of this should have led you down the correct path to understanding the implicit defacto, but it seems I overestimated the ability to follow the line....
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
dejure... but not in effect...
And this is what is important. while dejure they "could" defacto... state supersedes where the government stance is to not intervene with state laws. That's the point I was making here...
Now why is this important for the argument i was making?
Well the government is taking a stance of not intervening in states passing laws against federal laws, which defacto means in those states the state laws are what trump the federal law and the federal government has been amicable to this arrangement...
To then become antagonistic to the issue and cite federal laws, that the federal government decided are fine to be ignored, and shouldn't be intervened with... is asinine and a touch hypocritical.
Correct, they don't. As someone who has had a job that dealt with exactly the kinds of state/federal disagreements that you're talking about, I can categorically state that your stance here is absolute bullshit.
The federal government doesn't "generally respect" those state laws. Federal agents can and will arrest you for weed even in states in which it's been legalized at the state level.
R.I.P. Democracy
"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
--Alexandre Dumas-fils
In effect it’s meaningless to people who don’t do marijuana... so... what’s the problem? Is this an issue of it in effect only impacting some people? Is this in effect prejudice?
As a pot smoker, in a state where it’s legal... if the feds come to my house, me screaming “de jure” or “de facto” will only make them laugh... or ask me if I need a French translator...
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
Folly and fakery have always been with us... but it has never before been as dangerous as it is now, never in history have we been able to afford it less. - Isaac Asimov
Every damn thing you do in this life, you pay for. - Edith Piaf
The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. - Orwell
No amount of belief makes something a fact. - James Randi
You seem to be saying that the government broadly takes the stance of straight up ignoring violations of the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution, which they literally do not. In any sense. At all. That they have chosen to do so on this one, particular, specific issue is absolutely not representative of business as usual.
Federal law trumps state law. Period. It's right there in the goddamn Constitution, black and fucking white. You. Are. WRONG.This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
R.I.P. Democracy
"The difference between stupidity
and genius is that genius has its limits."
--Alexandre Dumas-fils
What a fucking asinine side to take... "you didn't put a space therefore you can't spell it." is foolish... and also is literally a fallacious argument. The ability to spell a word or pronounce a word isn't important to the substance of an argument.
"Is there a space or not?" doesn't somehow negate everything lmao... why so cranky?
Also being told that I spelt something wrong for not putting a space and should shut up... that's rich coming from a person who doesn't understand the word about.
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What does this have to do with the fact that in effect state laws surpass the federal ones when the government decides to not interfere? That's just a fact yes?